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FB RECRUITING: Louisville coaches on the road recruiting

Louisville's coaches don't know who the next coach will be, when it will be announced, or even if they will be retained or not but regardless Louisville's coaches are out on the recruiting trail.

Kolby Smith (and possibly Richard Owens) are headed to visit TE commit Sam Snyder tomorrow.

Also Kolby Smith is schedule to visit Jaden Johnson.

I'll update this as the in-home visits are scheduled.

Please say it ain't so

I don't have sources or this or that. I spoke to someone in my family with some info. I can't say exactly who or what because I'm sure she reads these boards. I'll just say she works for the University in some capacity.

I was told Dino Babers will be the next coach at UofL by her.

If so, what a terrible F ing hire for UofL. If Dino Babers is the next coach then Vince Tyra has lost all credibility with me.

I hope to God she is wrong on this. Dino Babers does not deserve to come here. I'd rather have 10 other coaches before him

** 11/25 Louisville Coaching Hot Board v3.0 ** Sunday Update

Louisville Coaching Hot Board v3.0
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JEFF BROHM - Purdue HC
Current Spot: 13-12
overall at Purdue, now in his second season
Why He's Hot? Brohm has been the No. 1 candidate since Day 1 of this coaching search. In fact, he was the No. 1 candidate on Day -21 of this search because we believe he has been the target all along. A Louisville native, a Louisville alum, a Louisville legend, Brohm led Louisville as starting quarterback in 1992 and 1993. He has been a QB Coach at Louisville (2003-06) and was Associate Head Coach in 2007 and 2008. After coaching at FAU, Illinois and UAB, Brohm joined Bobby Petrino's staff in 2013 as Associate Head Coach and then took over as Head Coach in 2014. Brohm coached the Hilltoppers to an 8-5 record in 2014, a 12-2 record in 2015 and a 10-3 record in 2016, winning Conference USA in 2015 and 2016. He was hired by Purdue on Dec. 5, 2016, taking over a program that had won just nine games the previous four seasons. Purdue made a bowl in Year 1, finishing 7-6 overall after a win in the Foster Farms Bowl. This season the Boilermakers lost their first three games, but have since recovered to win 5 of the last 7.
Why He's Not? Brohm currently has a $4.4 million buyout until Dec. 5 when it drops to $3.3 million. Purdue has said they are prepared to do what it takes to retain him.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 1/3
Sunday Update: Tyra and Brohm are expected to have first "official" contact today.


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NEAL BROWN - Troy HC
Current Spot:
33-15 overall at Troy, now in his fourth season
Why He's Hot? He has a phenomenal offensive system that is fun to watch and Hell to prepare for. He's already coached two teams to 10-plus wins and this season is heading that way, too, at 8-2 already. He has won the Sun Belt (Fun Belt) and he won the 2016 Dollar General Bowl and the 2017 New Orleans Bowl. He's from Kentucky (Boyle County) and has family in the area. 2017 Sun Belt Coach of the Year. And he's only 38 and he's making less than a million per year.
Why He's Not? Can he recruit at an elite enough level to beat Clemson or FSU? I'm not sure what else there is to dislike, and don't start with the UK stuff (Schnellenberger, Tyra, etc...)
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 6/1
Howie's 11/18 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 20/1
Howie's 11/25 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 20/1

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BARRY ODOM - Missouri HC
Current Spot: 19-18
overall at Missouri, now in his third season
Why He's Hot? Odom advanced from Missouri's defensive coordinator to head coach three years ago. He built Missouri from 4-8 to 7-6 and then to 8-4 this year. You might think, why would he leave an SEC East school to come to the ACC? Well, Odom is making just $2.97 million per year and he probably should get a new deal with the Tigers.
Why He's Not? He seems like a Missouri lifer. He went to Memphis for three seasons, but came back to Missouri. Is this "interest" in Louisville a ploy to get a better contract at Missouri?
Howie's Odds to be Louisville' Next Coach: 20/1



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LUKE FICKELL - Cincinnati HC
Current Spot:
13-9 overall, now in his second season at Cincinnati
Why He's Hot? He took over a mess and won four games in 2017. This season Cincinnati is playing with purpose and fire, winning 9 of 10 games and currently leading the AAC East. Fickell is a hard-nosed dude, aggressive and a Coach passionate about practice. He has spent most of his career at Ohio State and would likely call that his dream job, but it isn't open right now and he's probably going to leave Cincinnati at some point. On a personal note: I also respect anyone who can manage six children.
Why He's Not? Yeah, I don't have much here. Not much experience? Maybe the Zach Smith stuff at OSU?
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 15/1
Howie's 11/18 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 20/1
Howie's 11/25 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 30/1
Sunday Update: There has been contact between the parties within the last week.


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BRENT VENABLES - Clemson DC
Current Spot:
Clemson's defense is one of the best in the nation.
Why He's Hot? He has built defenses that win at the highest level. He's a strong recruiter, a brilliant tactician, a phenomenal worker and a grinder. People around him absolutely LOVE him.
Why He's Not? He's never been a head coach. Would he actually leave? Despite being a coordinator, that's a real question. Clemson is paying him $1.7 million a year and he doesn't have to deal with all the stuff a head coach has to deal with. Also, he's a bit odd, in a quirky obsessive sort of way.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 16/1
Howie's 11/18 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 30/1
Howie's 11/18 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 30/1


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DINO BABERS - Syracuse HC
Current Spot:
16-18 overall at Syracuse, now in his third season
Why He's Hot? The losing overall record at Syracuse isn't stellar, but we also have to remember what he took over. He's building a winner at Syracuse and that is a major accomplishment. The fact that they are 8-2 this season is fairly ridiculous. He's so easy to love. The more you interview him, the more you like being around him. The players seem to love playing for him.
Why He's Not? Would he leave an Atlantic Division team to go to another Atlantic Division team? Maybe. Also, the overall record isn't great.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 16/1
Howie's 11/18 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 10/1
Howie's 11/25 Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 40/1




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MATT CAMPBELL - Iowa State HC
Current Spot:
17-17 so far at Iowa State, now in his third season
Why He's Hot? He won at Toledo, compiling a 35-15 record and winning the league twice and then turned Iowa State from 3-9 his first year to 8-5 last season as the Big 12 Coach of the Year. This year they 6-3 so far, but seem to have a team that fans enjoy coming to see. He's very young, taking the ISU job on his 36th birthday.
Why He's Not? Campbell signed a six-year, $22.5 million dollar extension last November and it includes a $7 million buyout. There could also be concern about whether Louisville could lure him away from a place he seems to love.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 16/1
Howie's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: Off

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JASON CANDLE - Toledo HC
Current Spot: 26-12 so far at Toledo, now in his fourth season
Why He's Hot?
He took over Toledo when Matt Campbell left for Iowa State and they both have a Mount Union coaching heredity. He has been coaching at Toledo since 2009, rising up through the ranks as Toledo's success brought new jobs for several head coaches.
Why He's Not? While I don't believe he'll be at Louisville, some team is going to get a very good coach. For Louisville? It would be a risk given his lack of experience anywhere other than Toledo. He also just signed an extension through 2021.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 25/1
Howie's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: Off

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SCOTT SATTERFIELD - Appalachian State HC
Current Spot:
48-24 so far at App State, now in his sixth season
Why He's Hot? High-scoring offense, great passers, good running backs, explosive plays... he checks the boxes for an exciting new coach. He is an Appalachian State grad and, after six seasons as head coach, he may have found his career spot.
Why He's Not? He went from Appalachian State to Toledo and FIU and then back to Appalachian State. He has never coached or recruited to a Power-5 school.
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 25/1
Howie's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: Off



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RYAN DAY - OC and QB Coach at Ohio State
Current Spot:
Ohio State is Top 10 and in playoff contention
Why He's Hot? The 39-year old Day has moved from New Hampshire to Boston College to Temple to the Eagles and 49ers and now back to college. He is a Chip Kelly disciple, having played for him at UNH.
Why He's Not? He has limited head coaching experience, only serving as a placeholder for Urban Meyer for the first three games this season (3-0), but he comes from a strong Coaching Tree working alongside Meyer, Kelly, Addazio, etc...
Bovada's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: 6/1
Howie's Odds to be Louisville's Next Coach: Off
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Where Did It Go Wrong?

I am looking for some factual answers to this question: How does a team go in two years from a potential college playoff team with a Heisman winner at QB to a 2 win team with one of the worst defenses I have ever seen? Also, how long will it take to get back to winning (not sure about the talent on the team now and among recruits coming in).

My admittedly uninformed view is that the staff around Petrino was incompetent, beginning with his son and son in laws, and this damaged recruiting and play.
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** Howie's Quick Hits - Sunday at 2 am **

- All eyes forward now - it's all about Brohm.

- Those conversations "officially" begin today (Sunday) and could either work fast or work slow, but either way everyone I have talked to believes the deal will get done. Tyra and Brohm will be tallking Sunday.

- Louisville is a bit of tough spot because Brohm has all the leverage right now. He has a job, he kinda likes that job and they are willing to pay him a bunch of money to stay. Tyra's leverage, I'm told, is that he knows Brohm and the entire family want to return home.

- So many UofL folks gave me no answer tonight at the game. Most smiled broadly like they all know it is coming, but no one on record. That is by design.

- How far along as the "unofficial" negotiations? I'm told coaches from around the country were contacting Brohm and the Purdue staff telling them they would love to join him at Louisville.

- There are a few familiar names who would love to come back to Louisville if given the chance. Brohm will have to decide if it would be danger to bring any of them back and whether or not they fit with the culture he wants to build.

- Rondale Moore is in play, according to Dave Lackford. Wandale Robinson might be in play as well, according to Dave Lackford... neither are a done deal, but can you imagine? Wow.

- Louisville just got drubbed by Kentucky and I can't help but feel relieved that this horrible season is over. There were so many things that went wrong that I am honestly going to be dissecting everything for the next 9 months as we prep for next season.

- One side note - as we walk out of the Football Complex tonight, I notice a giant 10-foot chart on the wall with all the defensive players names on it and all sorts of stats and points. Typical stuff you see in a lot of football complexes. Major issue? The last update of any of the stats was 10/29/18.

- I have a whole bunch of scuttlebutt about the guys currently on campus, on roster, but I don't want to depress you with all the details when we should all be looking forward to the future.

- I saw Dr. Neeli Bendapudi and her staff after the game (she greeted and thanked all the players as they headed to the locker room), and I told them "Brighter days ahead..." and several of them replied "Absolutely." immediately.

Candidates Not Named Brohm

Realize there's already a thread but it derailed rapidly and today provided some fresh gasoline for our dumpster fire.

I'm all ears and working google. Realistic suggestions helps ease the pain. Eyes forward.

Obscure name that I like at the moment is Jedd Fisch.

Personally want an offensive mind, established OC or skills coach. Tad younger with zero ties to BP. We've had the most success with guys trying to prove themselves i.e Bobby 1.0 and Strong.

Western fills their position ...

From the CJ .... but I ain't linking to that rag.

Western Kentucky didn't need long to find the Hilltoppers' new football coach, and it's an old name around the program.

University of Tennessee offensive coordinator Tyson Helton has reached an agreement to be the next head coach at WKU, according to ESPN.

Helton, 41, served as the Hilltoppers' offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach in 2014-15 under Jeff Brohm before joining the staff at Southern Cal. He was the Vols' offensive coordinator this past season as a part of Jeremy Pruitt's first staff in Knoxville.

Coach Prediction Thread

This thread assumes Jeff Brohm turns down the UL HC Position. Please list who:

1) You think UL will actually Hire
2) The coach you would prefer UL Hire
3) The Coach you fear UL might hire

My choices

1) Dino Babers - Done a good job turning around Syracuse(17-19). Good record prior to
Syracuse(37-16). Experienced Coach needed to get discipline back in program.
2) Matt Campbell- Has done a good job both places he has been, 35-15 at Toledo and
18-18 at Iowa State. Has a game left with Drake on 12/1/18. Really like this guy
I/S is a tough place to win. My only reservation about this guy is he may not be at
UL long if he turns program around. Only 39 years old.
3) Brett Venables - The guy is a super star DC. But a guy who has no HC experience scares
the hell out of me. At Oklahoma and Clemson he has had superior athletes at his disposal.
That probably won't be the case at UL.

Interested in your picks.

Simple Question

If the negotiation comes down to the guarantee, is Brohm worth a full contract guarantee? Tyra said he wasn't going to do that again, but will he have a choice if the fans are demanding Brohm or bust?

What would you do if you found yourselves in Trya's shoes looking to potentially pay out over $50M to coaches no longer at the University between Pitino and Pertino alone? Do you make a huge commitment again to the the coach replacing the one you are going to have to pay $14M? Easy to say Brohm or Bust, but it's not that simple if you are responsible for the finances of the Department. Is it riskier for Trya giving the fans what they want at the expense of financial risk, or is there even an option for a top coach anymore without a large contract guarantee as a prerequisite?

I'm heartbroken .....

Tonight and today was just a tough day.

Knowing we had no chance in a game against those ****turds, and socializing with Card fans with that over our heads, was just hard. And then dealing with the mostly honorable Cayut fans in blue around us, just took a toll on me, for some reason.

I know better days are ahead. I have lived long enough to have that perspective.

But I am still very angry.

And I am seriously pissed off at Tom Jurich.

Yes ... he did so many great things for U of L. And took us places we dared dream about. But a lot of this mess is squarely tattooed on his shoulders. Especially his lazy ass hiring of Bobby Petrino.

Talking to the mother of one of our senior football players today at the tailgate just broke my heart. The stories she told of the treatment her son took, at the hands of the staff we employed, is just beyond description.

And TJ hired those sunsovbitches ... and this season is ALL on HIS fu**ing shoulders, in my opinion.

I know this post will bring out those on this board who still worship at the alter of Tom Jurich. And that's fine. I am big enough to take that.

But if you had heard the things I heard today, you wouldn't be so quick to defend TJ, and his football program management.

A truly sad ******* day for me.

"Tom Jurich's testimony backs Rick Pitino's suit against ULAA..."

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Tim Sullivan | Louisville Courier Journal | 4 hours ago

The $40 million question is as follows: Though Rick Pitino’s University of Louisville contract says he is “presumed to be responsible” for the actions of all those who report to him, did his dismissal qualify as a “just cause” firing?

A supplemental exhibit filed Wednesday in Pitino’s breach-of-contract suit against the University of Louisville Athletic Association includes an excerpt from the Nov. 2 deposition of former U of L athletic director Tom Jurich in which Jurich testifies it was “absolutely” his understanding that Pitino could not be fired for conduct he knew nothing about.

That contention is central to Pitino’s motion for summary judgment, and it is one ULAA lawyers vigorously disputed in a previous motion filed in June.

"Pitino cannot go back in time," the motion said. "The addition of the presumed responsibility language was an effort by the NCAA to avoid exactly the argument Pitino is making in this case. Pitino’s defense of 'I didn’t know' is no longer valid. Pitino was responsible for the actions of his staff members, whether he knew about them or not."

Related: Ex-Adidas fixer testifies Rick Pitino didn't know of Bowen payment

Three of Pitino’s former subordinates have been implicated in the two major scandals that have embroiled U of L’s basketball program since the fall of 2015.

The NCAA imposed a 10-year “show cause” penalty on Andre McGee, U of L’s former director of basketball operations, for his role in the stripper scandal that resulted in the vacation of the 2013 men’s basketball championship. Former assistant coaches Kenny Johnson and Jordan Fair have been implicated in the federal investigation of the bribery scheme behind the recruitment of Brian Bowen.

Legislation adopted by the NCAA Board of Directors in 2012 held head coaches responsible for the actions of their staff members, eliminating the sanctuary of plausible deniability in infractions cases that often centered on the conduct of assistant coaches.

“We expect head coaches to provide practices and training and written materials that instruct their assistant coaches how to act,” Oregon State president Ed Ray, chairman of the NCAA’s executive committee, explained at the time. “If they’ve done that, it can become mitigating evidence that they shouldn’t be held accountable for what (a staff member) did.

"But head coaches have to have these things in place or the presumption will be that they didn’t care enough to set standards and take responsibility for their programs. If there is no guidance and an assistant goes rogue, then it’s partly the head coach’s fault and he/she should be held accountable.”

Previously: ULAA objects to Andre McGee's intervention in Rick Pitino lawsuit

Pitino has insisted he was vigilant about his supervisory responsibilities; that he repeatedly instructed his staff, “Don’t even think about jaywalking.”

The motion filed Wednesday says the dispute between ULAA and Pitino arises, in part, from contractual language concerning what constitutes a major violation and who determines whether one has been committed. ULAA’s position is that the NCAA makes that determination and that Pitino’s alleged “failure to monitor” McGee qualified as a Level 1 violation.

Pitino’s attorneys claim the contract provides just cause for firing only if Pitino personally violated a major rule. Jurich testified that determination would be “left up to the university.” To that end, interim president Greg Postel’s initial response to NCAA sanctions related to the stripper scandal was that the ruling was “unfair to Coach Pitino, who we believe could not have known about the illicit activities.”

Four months later, following news of the FBI investigation and ULAA’s unanimous vote to fire Pitino, Postel reversed his stance on the coach’s culpability.

“Your involvement in these recent scandals cannot be considered isolated events,” Postel wrote. “Instead, they are illustrative of a pattern and practice of inappropriate behavior."

ULAA attorney Barbara Edelman declined to comment Wednesday on Pitino's motion.

Read more: Contradictions aside, Rick Pitino yearns for another shot at coaching
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