Brohm and Purdue killing it again.

[Thecycle27]

It is not just Brohm it is every coach that can’t recruit classes consistently in the top 20.

Now I think Louisville can recruit consistently in the Top 5 in ACC. They start consistently doing that they will become a 7-5 or 8-4. Bottom line your ceiling is higher.

 

[2330859]

The transfer portal has had as much influence on college football performance as anything. Just look at the 25 kids who left VT in just one season, and how their QB and WR arriving At Tennessee turned the Vols into a national contender. Syracuse may not win the ACC, but obtaining Schrader at QB has resulted in one of the greatest impacts of any schools this year. Regrettably, UK’s ability to attract Levis can explain a lot of their success.

If you think UL fans are down on their football team’s performance, go look at the Hokie faithful after their loss to Old Dominion.

 

[Rollem Cards]

If you think UL fans are down on their football team’s performance, go look at the Hokie faithful after their loss to Old Dominion.

JMU is lurking for us.

They are, and have been, a strong, tough, winning program.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Currently his team has allowed a terrible Iowa offense 17 points and has only scored 3 at the half.

 

[CardfbFanatic06]

RIP Jeff Brohm. I'm glad this debate is officially over.

 

[Rollem Cards]

If any P5 school not named Louisville tried to hire JB their fans would want the AD fired.

But some think he’d STILL be the savior?

But then, MANY on here also said we’d be “fine” without TJ. Meaning many of us still don’t know shit.

You Cards
Beat Purdue

 

[PushupMan]

Two scores today from the B10 stand out today:
Ohio State 21. Northwestern 7
Iowa 24, Purdue 3

Buckeyes had 76 yards passing on 38% completions.
Boilers had 168 yards passing on 47% completions.

Relying on a prolific passing attack on a day with 60 mph wind gusts is a tough way to get a win!

 

[BPGhost]

If any P5 school not named Louisville tried to hire JB their fans would want the AD fired.

But some think he’d STILL be the savior?

Meaning many of us still don’t know shit.

Lol - self awareness is a helpful tool. Count yourself among those who don’t.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Two scores today from the B10 stand out today:
Ohio State 21. Northwestern 7
Iowa 24, Purdue 3

Buckeyes had 76 yards passing on 38% completions.
Boilers had 168 yards passing on 47% completions.

Relying on a prolific passing attack on a day with 60 mph wind gusts is a tough way to get a win!

The wind and rain totally wrecked the tOSU vs NU game. tOSU just didn't want to run the ball.

 

[Jimbo11]

Lol - self awareness is a helpful tool. Count yourself among those who don’t.

So you still support hiring Brohm?

 

[BPGhost]

So you still support hiring Brohm?

Absolutely - should the position be available, I think he’s the best choice.

 

[Louis III]

If any P5 school not named Louisville tried to hire JB their fans would want the AD fired.

But some think he’d STILL be the savior?

But then, MANY on here also said we’d be “fine” without TJ. Meaning many of us still don’t know shit.

You Cards
Beat Purdue

Why?? Dude after today he is 33-33. That should be a no-brainer.....lifetime contract.

 

[beantowncard]

Absolutely - should the position be available, I think he’s the best choice.

I thought Satt had to go no matter what. Now it’s “if the position becomes available “… it never ceases to amaze me how those who attack CSS and demand his termination shout the “no excuses” mantra but seem to pull out a whole bag of excuses for Brohm.

 

[Jimbo11]

I thought Satt had to go no matter what. Now it’s “if the position becomes available “… it never ceases to amaze me how those who attack CSS and demand his termination shout the “no excuses” mantra but seem to pull out a whole bag of excuses for Brohm.

Exactly.

 

[Thecycle27]

It really is interesting. This fanbase is a mess. I am not sure how you look at Brohm and say he would be a significant upgrade at this point.

 

[BPGhost]

I thought Satt had to go no matter what. Now it’s “if the position becomes available “… it never ceases to amaze me how those who attack CSS and demand his termination shout the “no excuses” mantra but seem to pull out a whole bag of excuses for Brohm.

Never said that Satterfield had to be terminated “no matter what” nor have I made excuses for Brohm. I did say, and I stick by it, that Brohm is the better coach and, would be more successful (higher ceiling and floor) and bring more stability at UofL than Satterfield. Yesterday’s results did nothing to change that.

 

[Knucklehank1]

Never said that Satterfield had to be terminated “no matter what” nor have I made excuses for Brohm. I did say, and I stick by it, that Brohm is the better coach and, would be more successful (higher ceiling and floor) and bring more stability at UofL than Satterfield. Yesterday’s results did nothing to change that.

I agree with this. I look at the attendance and can only surmise that a good portion of our fanbase has little belief in this staff. Kudos to Satt though for not mailing it in like Petrino did.

 

[2330859]

Satterfield has demonstrated a sense of resilience that has permeated this roster. I try to listen to what the players say, and tune out those posters who take positions early in the season, that cannot be defended when reality plays out.

Most every UL fan, myself included, were disappointed by the performances at Syracuse. However, going down to Orlando and beating UCF showed a glimpse of the character this roster has. The loss at BC was indeed troubling, and even now I am not sure there is adequate explanation for the performance. Despite those events, this 4 game winning streak should demonstrate one thing …… Satterfield is starting to fulfill some of the expectations that prompted his hiring in the first place.

Jeff Brohm is a local treasure, as is Oscar, Brian and Greg. Their careers at Trinity and UL are worthy of our respect and I would like to support their efforts at Purdue, except they are recruiting Jefferson Co and their success is a challenge for UL recruiting.

Most can see the obvious …… in order for Jeff to have ever returned to UL; it means that first Satterfield would need to be unsuccessful, which means UL football loses. Secondly, Jeff would have to be successful at Purdue, and while that has not been demonstrated at this point, it stands to reason that if he was successful there, Boilermakers would reward his compensation to keep him in West Lafayette.

As for me, I remain behind Satterfield as our HC, and while there is no assurance one way or another on these next 3 games, I honestly believe we have a shot to win one at a time. Clemson is still talented, but vulnerable even in Death Valley.

 

[Mayoman]

I agree with this. I look at the attendance and can only surmise that a good portion of our fanbase has little belief in this staff. Kudos to Satt though for not mailing it in like Petrino did.

That is one way to look at it. Another way is that a good portion of our fan base will attend and support the Cards come hell and high water and the rest of them are fake fans. Only will attend when it suits them no matter the weather, start time, opponent, or who the staff or admin is.

CHS dream of being on a collision course is just words for those who are not truly committed lovers of bigtime CFB...the definition of fair weather fans is very strongly imprinted in the Card fanbase. IDK what the solution to that is.

Fanbase can claim to be bigtime but fail to deliver the support necessary to be bigtime. Put up or shut up....and many do not have the wherewithal to put up and love to complain and justify their fanhood by not showing up when it suits them. Only about 30-35K real FB fans in the bunch. The rest talk a good game but are fooling themselves in that belief. A microcosm of todays society I am sad to say.

Go Cards! Beat Clemson!!!

 

[Thecycle27]

That is one way to look at it. Another way is that a good portion of our fan base will attend and support the Cards come hell and high water and the rest of them are fake fans. Only will attend when it suits them no matter the weather, start time, opponent, or who the staff or admin is.

CHS dream of being on a collision course is just words for those who are not truly committed lovers of bigtime CFB...the definition of fair weather fans is very strongly imprinted in the Card fanbase. IDK what the solution to that is.

Fanbase can claim to be bigtime but fail to deliver the support necessary to be bigtime. Put up or shut up....and many do not have the wherewithal to put up and love to complain and justify their fanhood by not showing up when it suits them. Only about 30-35K real FB fans in the bunch. The rest talk a good game but are fooling themselves in that belief. A microcosm of todays society I am sad to say.

Go Cards! Beat Clemson!!!

I agree. The only way this fanbase has ever really supported football is if Louisville starts off really good and it is a big name opponent. Once a loss or two happen people jump off. God forbid they lose early. That has happened with every coach including the ones that were liked. Brohm isn’t changing that reality. You may get a bump in year 1 but as soon as he goes 7-5 attendance will be right back at 30-35k.

They need to do something with tailgating/parking to many people bitch about it for it needs to be addressed.

The elephant in the room is the fanbase doesn’t like being in ACC. They think 90 percent of the teams suck. There is zero excitement playing Wake, Pitt, Virginia, Georgia Tech or Duke. Our fanbase had more respect for Cincy, WVU and UCF than they did for most of the ACC teams. Think about it this way Wake was a top 10 team poor attendance now change the name to Cincy or WVU or UCF with same ranking……bigger crowd. Until our fanbase embraces being in the ACC nothing will change.

They have to start consistently winning but fans in the stands does help with that process.

 

[CardfbFanatic06]

Neither coach is elite by any stretch of the imagination, but give me Satt over Brohm all day every day.

 

[KerryRhodes]

Give me a HC who wants to be here for 10 years or more.
Satterfield has done a good job turning things around, however i dont think he wants to be here.
I think he's waiting for the UNC job to open or an SEC job.
I'll gladly eat crow if he signs a long term extension.

 

[BPGhost]

Neither coach is elite by any stretch of the imagination, but give me Satt over Brohm all day every day.

There probably are only 5-10 elite coaches in all of CFB. IMO Brohm is solidly in that second tier and Satterfield not so much but, reasonable people could certainly disagree. That said, I’d be curious to know the reasoning behind why you would take Satterfield over Brohm by such a wide margin.

 

[Rollem Cards]

The elephant in the room is the fanbase doesn’t like being in ACC. They think 90 percent of the teams suck. There is zero excitement playing Wake, Pitt, Virginia, Georgia Tech or Duke.

This.

But the funny thing is, back in the day, Cuse, BC, Pitt, UVA, or even Duke would be circled on our calendar as a “BIG” game. Now ? Nobody cares. I guess people think we’ve “arrived” and play them every year? No big deal?

My attitude is, the ACC “leaders” are a bunch of prima Donna BB schools who still look down their nose at FB. Not to mention, it’s blatantly obvious (to me) that they don’t like us and regret the day they invited us.

I believe the vision they had for us walked out the door with the strippers….and TJ.

Now it’s up to us to MAKE them need us, whether they like us or not.

We are not doing so well in that regard.

 

[Mayoman]

This.

But the funny thing is, back in the day, Cuse, BC, Pitt, UVA, or even Duke would be circled on our calendar as a “BIG” game. Now ? Nobody cares. I guess people think we’ve “arrived” and play them every year? No big deal?

My attitude is, the ACC “leaders” are a bunch of prima Donna BB schools who still look down their nose at FB. Not to mention, it’s blatantly obvious (to me) that they don’t like us and regret the day they invited us.

I believe the vision they had for us walked out the door with the strippers….and TJ.

Now it’s up to us to MAKE them need us, whether they like us or not.

We are not doing so well in that regard.

Yet. We are not doing so well in that regard YET.

Faith and hope spring eternal for Card fans who still believe CHS's vision that we are on a 'Collision Course for the NC...the only variable is time.' You have to have the dream, state the dream, and work toward it before the dream can become true.

I have the old song by the "Monkey's I'm a Believer"...playing in the dark recesses of my mind as I type this dream out. I know....I'm getting old but I'm still a believer.

 

[OldhamCard335]

Right now, I feel like our FB program is on a better trajectory than our BB program. Of course, this could change over the last three games. This team could have folded their tents after the B/C loss. Look what has happened since then. Speaks well of the players and the coaches.

 

[CardfbFanatic06]

There probably are only 5-10 elite coaches in all of CFB. IMO Brohm is solidly in that second tier and Satterfield not so much but, reasonable people could certainly disagree. That said, I’d be curious to know the reasoning behind why you would take Satterfield over Brohm by such a wide margin.

He runs a better offense. Brohm is a poor man's Mike Leach. He rarely runs the ball. It's a gimmick offense.

Brohm actually has worse defenses than Satt/Brown who at least are finally starting to show they can change things up. Neither have had strong defenses though (until us these last 4 weeks)

But my biggest reason is someone that works daily with Steve Clarkson and a lot of our talented 23 class say the recruits overall aren't very impressed with Brohm. They like Satt. I know NIL is the main attraction for these kids, but I don't want them playing for a coach they aren't inspired by.

Finally, why make a change for a coach that has nearly identical results? I don't get how Brohm could possibly be in that second tier. Plus he's really been stinking it up lately.

 

[the artist FKA zipp]

Why would anyone be more impressed with Satterfield than Brohm?

Except for social media, the next time I take an 18 year old’s impression of anything seriously will be the first time…

 

[gocds]

Why is there ANY discussion of Brohm over CSS? Both have jobs and one has a job here at UofL and that is the one that we need to support. Especially since we are apparently moving in the right direction. And to those folks that are negative about the ACC, I say I remember the time when the vast, vast majority of you would have given your left testicle (or ovary) for the opportunity to actually BE in a major Power 5 conference. When did that change? JB is, indeed, a UofL alum but he has chosen to stay where he is presently when he had the opportunity to "come home". And simply because JB is a local guy and a UofL alum is NOT enough to warrant any loyalty from our fanbase. Until JB shows us the respect (and loyalty) we deserve then I'll take guys like CSS each and every time.

GO CARDS!!!

 

[Thecycle27]

Why would anyone be more impressed with Brohm? Results are very similar. Plus you would be paying 2-3 million more annually for potentially the same results.

I think Brohm would be fine but if people actually think they would start winning 9-10 games annually are seeing things I don’t see. He doesn’t recruit at that level. His defenses aren’t great. The data tells you he is going to be middle of the road.

All this board is worried about is wins, no clue why people are more impressed with Brohm. Keep in mind the Big 10 West is like the ACC Coastal, not exactly a juggernaut.

 

[BPGhost]

He runs a better offense. Brohm is a poor man's Mike Leach. He rarely runs the ball. It's a gimmick offense.

Brohm actually has worse defenses than Satt/Brown who at least are finally starting to show they can change things up. Neither have had strong defenses though (until us these last 4 weeks)

But my biggest reason is someone that works daily with Steve Clarkson and a lot of our talented 23 class say the recruits overall aren't very impressed with Brohm. They like Satt. I know NIL is the main attraction for these kids, but I don't want them playing for a coach they aren't inspired by.

Finally, why make a change for a coach that has nearly identical results? I don't get how Brohm could possibly be in that second tier. Plus he's really been stinking it up lately.

Just looking at this year’s numbers - UofL runs it 8 times more a game. Not really a dramatic difference and given that Malik is responsible for 30% of that total - it would (will) be interesting to see where those numbers might be in the future.

Regarding defenses - UofL during Satterfield’s tenure has given up an average of 26.97 points a game. Purdue during the same time has allowed 27.07 a game.

As for the comment about the class - no offense but that seems like nonsense. They’re coming to UofL because of the NIL money, the adidas connections and the chance to essentially be this year’s version of the TA&MU freshman class - a group that can all start or get major clock from the jump. Satterfield seems like a really nice guy but his record is uninspiring.

I - and the vast majority of the CFB world - think that Brohm is better than Satterfield. But even if he is equal or only marginally better than Satterfield - were he to come here - it would be for the long haul and would provide the stability that the program has lacked since Howard.

Satterfield was looking for the escape hatch after year one. Only his mediocrity has kept him here IMO.

 

[glassmanJ]

the rest of them are fake fans

i call bullshit. i don't go to the games becasue sitting in uncomfortable seats, listening to overloud pa system, never seeing the actual ball during a game and having to deal with lines, overpriced food and drinks, and everything else i'll never go to a game again (only one i've been to was the Lamar celebration last year, in 40 degree weather in a half empty stadium, but i was there) no matter how good we are but i bleed with every loss, cheer for every win, and i wear more u of l gear than probably most of you. in fact i had my cardinal hoodie and hat on today while visiting the art institute of chicago and one of the workers came up to me and went lousville cardinals! so i'm fake huh? no fffing way am i fake and real fans don't have to attend any games. i choose to watch them in the comfort of my home and save $200 which i spend on louisville hats shirts and hoodies.

 

[BPGhost]

Why is there ANY discussion of Brohm over CSS? Both have jobs and one has a job here at UofL and that is the one that we need to support. Especially since we are apparently moving in the right direction. And to those folks that are negative about the ACC, I say I remember the time when the vast, vast majority of you would have given your left testicle (or ovary) for the opportunity to actually BE in a major Power 5 conference. When did that change? JB is, indeed, a UofL alum but he has chosen to stay where he is presently when he had the opportunity to "come home". And simply because JB is a local guy and a UofL alum is NOT enough to warrant any loyalty from our fanbase. Until JB shows us the respect (and loyalty) we deserve then I'll take guys like CSS each and every time.

GO CARDS!!!

There’s discussion because it’s a message board FFS. It was also a discussion that began based upon 3+ years of mediocrity. We’re all happy about the last four wins and hopeful that it continues - and if it does then the talk of dumping Satterfield will dissipate or, will be replaced by talk of which Carolina school he’s looking to move to.

The fact that Brohm and his family have been such prominent members of the UofL football program is exactly the reason why he deserves respect. Suggesting that he doesn’t deserve respect because he failed to dump Purdue a year after he was hired, is childish at best and it’s ironic that you would instead bestow that respect and loyalty on a guy who tried to jump ship after year one and has stayed here primarily out of a lack of offers based upon his mediocre results since that point.

 

[glassmanJ]

btw i've supported Satt from day 1, said be patient, never called for his firing, said no to JB possibility, and had trust in our AD and the coaches to turn it around. That's what a true fan is. (but TJ and RP needed to be fired for being douchers not for lack of production)

 

[CardfbFanatic06]

Purdue fans want Brohm to move on. That's really all you need to know.

 

[Mayoman]

i call bullshit. i don't go to the games becasue sitting in uncomfortable seats, listening to overloud pa system, never seeing the actual ball during a game and having to deal with lines, overpriced food and drinks, and everything else i'll never go to a game again (only one i've been to was the Lamar celebration last year, in 40 degree weather in a half empty stadium, but i was there) no matter how good we are but i bleed with every loss, cheer for every win, and i wear more u of l gear than probably most of you. in fact i had my cardinal hoodie and hat on today while visiting the art institute of chicago and one of the workers came up to me and went lousville cardinals! so i'm fake huh? no fffing way am i fake and real fans don't have to attend any games. i choose to watch them in the comfort of my home and save $200 which i spend on louisville hats shirts and hoodies.

Fair enough. Sounds like a nerve was struck. Glad you feel strongly enough to respond with your POV. You might be the exception then. TY for your support of the Cards.

 

[BPGhost]

Purdue fans want Brohm to move on. That's really all you need to know.

Lol - ok. Four weeks ago they didn’t but Louisville fans wanted Satterfield gone. Fans are generally fickle - that’s really all you need to know.

 

[Knucklehank1]

Purdue fans want Brohm to move on. That's really all you need to know.

For 2022 season Purdue has its highest season ticket sales since 2008. They sold out their last home game. It seems that the fans are still showing up.

 

[Thecycle27]

There’s discussion because it’s a message board FFS. It was also a discussion that began based upon 3+ years of mediocrity. We’re all happy about the last four wins and hopeful that it continues - and if it does then the talk of dumping Satterfield will dissipate or, will be replaced by talk of which Carolina school he’s looking to move to.

The fact that Brohm and his family have been such prominent members of the UofL football program is exactly the reason why he deserves respect. Suggesting that he doesn’t deserve respect because he failed to dump Purdue a year after he was hired, is childish at best and it’s ironic that you would instead bestow that respect and loyalty on a guy who tried to jump ship after year one and has stayed here primarily out of a lack of offers based upon his mediocre results since that point.

Brohm has been mediocre as well there is no denying that. He has won 9 games once in 6 years. Everything you complain about with Satterfield Brohm has done as well. The only difference is you, not the vast majority, like Brohm despite what the data tells you. That is fine but just say that instead of telling us the vast majority of football people believe what you believe.

I think discounting the incoming class is a ridiculous position. NIL is a factor but to say Satterfield and his staff aren’t is lazy or convenient.

What you are basically suggesting Louisville to do is spend an extra 2-3M annually plus another 5-8 million in buyouts for someone that will give you the same results. He may do better at Louisville than Purdue but the data sure doesn’t suggest that will happen.

 

[gocds]

There’s discussion because it’s a message board FFS. It was also a discussion that began based upon 3+ years of mediocrity. We’re all happy about the last four wins and hopeful that it continues - and if it does then the talk of dumping Satterfield will dissipate or, will be replaced by talk of which Carolina school he’s looking to move to.

The fact that Brohm and his family have been such prominent members of the UofL football program is exactly the reason why he deserves respect. Suggesting that he doesn’t deserve respect because he failed to dump Purdue a year after he was hired, is childish at best and it’s ironic that you would instead bestow that respect and loyalty on a guy who tried to jump ship after year one and has stayed here primarily out of a lack of offers based upon his mediocre results since that point.

Please show me where OR when I "suggested" that JB doesn't deserve respect because he failed to dump Purdue? I have nothing but respect for JB and the entire Brohm family but they (Jeff) have made their choice and I choose to be loyal to UofL. Jeff chose to remain at Purdue which is his perfect right, but I do not support Purdue because my loyalty lies with UofL. That is where I went to school and have supported for more than 50 years. And they have supported me as well. Just my own personal opinion.