I’ve voiced concerns for some time about BP. My biggest issue has always been his inability to build a “program”. He’s a great off coach, but he doesn’t focus enough time on all aspects of the game to be a “great” coach IMHO.

Our issues are trending in the wrong direction, and fast. We have major issues.

A quick example of 1 I’ll focus on is talent, and lackluster recruiting. Regardless of what your favorite recruiting website ranking says, with a BP class you have to look below the surface at the trends. Attrition has always been a challenge for his teams.

I’ve looked at classes since he’s been here the 2nd time. Here’s the B/D.

2014-25 signed
8 became starters at some point.
11 never showed, played, or transferred.

2015-24 signed (strongest)
17 started at some point
6 never showed, played, or transferred

2016-25
8 started
8 never showed, played, or transferred

2017-24
7 started
11 no show, not played, transferred. (Still time for those not played)

I’m taking out the 17 class, since we have a few RS and TBD on others. Looking at the other 3, you have 25 kids that never played in 3 years. This is where our depth issues are coming from. It’s essentially an entire class.

You can do the math and see that the middle ground of those between starting and not playing are kids that saw the field. Some are ST, some playing solid backup roles, a few are 2nd/3rd string.

I didn’t include, but we also had some JUCOs in there too. What that means is kids that didn’t play 4 years. Again, depth issues long term.

I also didn’t include any specifics where classes weren’t balanced in terms of position depth. Heavy on DB and WR certainly aren’t helping a lack of DL talent.

Today we’re playing, by my estimation, 10 TR FR. The new RS rule I guess is playing a part there, but I don’t think we’ll have the #’s to not keep playing them.

Bottom line, we’re not evaluating talent well enough, and we can see we’re certainly not coaching up those that stay well enough.

It’s getting worse.

good job Bobby

I enjoy reading Ryan McGee's Bottom 10 feature on ESPN.com every week. Always so well-written....

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...918/bottom-10-favorite-losers-ones-cover-them

But I certainly don't love that Louisville is in the Bottom 10 Waiting List this week. Definitely didn't think that a Petrino-coached UofL team would ever end up on this list:

Waiting List: UNC Achilles' Heels (1-3), Lou-ugh-ville (2-4), Ar-kan't-saw (1-5), Central Michigan Chippy-was (1-5), Boiling Green State (1-5), State of Kent (1-5), Western Kentucky Hillstoppers (1-4), Liberty Fightin' Falwells (2-3), Living on Tulsa Time (1-4), Old Duh-minions (1-5), the team that lost to Old Duh-minions (3-2), political tweets invading our Saturday afternoon timelines.

Is Bobby on the hot seat or the ejection seat? Video below.
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Louisville vs. Boston College today at 12:30

Doesn’t sound like AJ Dillon will play, but Glines has been very good as his replacement.

The pregame show is on now on 790 KRD, listen LIVE: http://www.790krd.con/listen

I think we probably will not.

Multiple schools and assistant coaches have been named so far at the trial of the century. Somehow although a couple of head coaches' names also came up Coach Pitino is the only one fired and found wanting while not yet identified in any communication as agreeing to pay anybody anything. I know all about "should have known", etc. but bottom line is no "smoking gun" as of now that I have seen or heard. Maybe I missed it.

I can handle losing games but the players don’t want to play. It’s apparent everyone associated with our football program is miserable right now. Sad

Could schools knocked out of the NCAA tournament by U of L ( or any other schools later deemed ineligible) sue for loss of revenue for tournament games after their defeat? I'd think they could claim television revenue related to the next game in the tournament as a minimum for damages. This could even turn into a class action suit for some attorney.

We had a season this bad was Ron Coopers last year. The year we hired Tom Jurich. Oh the irony of it. As I recall that was a 10 loss season too.

Next weekend, enjoy the fall weather, enjoy college football, enjoy not watching your favorite team suck ass.

In all seriousness, not a total disaster... Ok, it was pretty bad. The 2nd quarter was encouraging, kind of.

I only have over the air broadcasts. Can someone explain to me why the channel 11 broadcast is Duke vs GaTech????

I keep being told by the “damn Pitino” crowd that he violated his contract at the time of dismissal, specifically, the language in 6.1.3. In this thread, I attempt to address that language directly as well as Pitino’s and presumably his attorney’s viewpoints with respect to 6.1.3. I did find something a little interesting that I don’t recall hearing before.

Below is the language in Pitino's final contract under Section 6 for a with-cause firing. There are additional elements (6.2 thru 6.5) under which Pitino could have been terminated with cause. Those related to Pitino’s disability, due process and procedure.

6. TERMINATION FOR JUST CAUSE.

6.1 Employer has the right to terminate this Employment Contract for Just Cause or impose other appropriate discipline, in which case prior to such action, Employee shall be given ten (10) days' prior written notice and an opportunity to be heard. The term "Just Cause" with respect to Employer's right to terminate this Employment Contract shall be understood to include all of the following:

6.1.1 A material violation of this Employment Contract or refusal or unwillingness to perform this Contract in good faith and to the best of Employee's abilities;

6.1.2 Disparaging media publicity of a material nature that damages the good name and reputation of Employer or the University, if such publicity is caused by Employee's willful misconduct that could objectively be anticipated to bring Employee into public disrepute or scandal, or which tends to greatly offend the public, or any class thereof on the basis of invidious distinction;

6.1.3 Major violation of any rule, or bylaw of Employer, the athletic conference with which the University is then affiliated or the NCAA, including Level I and/or Level II NCAA violations, which violation damages Employer or the University in a material fashion; and

6.1.4 Employee's (a) dishonesty with Employer or University, (b) acts of moral depravity, (c) conviction of a felony or employment- or drug-related misdemeanor, or (d) intoxication or being under the influence of a psychoactive substance when performing duties under this Contract, when student athletes are present, when attending scheduled public events or appearances, or during media contacts.

LINK

Before focusing on 6.1.3, I want to show the same section (#6) for his PRIOR contract. This contract was in force during the stripper-gate scandal.

6. TERMINATION FOR JUST CAUSE.

6.1 Employer has the right to terminate this Employment Contract for Just Cause or impose other appropriate discipline, in which case prior to such action, Employee shall be given ten 10 (ten) days' prior written notice and an opportunity to be heard. The term "Just Cause" with respect to Employer's right to terminate this Employment Contract shall be understood to include all of the following:

6.1.1 A material violation of this Employment Contract or refusal or unwillingness to perform this Contract in good faith and to the best of Employee's abilities;

6.1.2 Disparaging media publicity of a material nature that damages the good name and reputation of Employer or the University, if such publicity is caused by Employee's willful misconduct that could objectively be anticipated to bring Employee into public disrepute or scandal, or which tends to greatly offend the public, or any class thereof on the basis of invidious distinction;

6.1.3 Major violation of any rule, or bylaw of Employer, the athletic conference with which the University is then affiliated or the NCAA, which violation damages Employer or the University in a material fashion, including in the case of NCAA, significant or repetitive violations as set forth in NCAA Bylaw 11.2.1, but with the understanding that Employee shall not be responsible for misconduct of third parties, assistants, or other representatives of the athletic interest of Employer and University, unless Employee was aware of such misconduct and failed to promptly report it to Employer or Employee failed to exercise diligent, careful supervision of the assistants, or other representatives of the athletic interests of Employer and the University which could have disclosed the violation; and

6.1.4 Employee's (a) dishonesty with Employer or University, (b) acts of moral depravity, (c) conviction of a felony or employment- or drug-related misdemeanor, or (d) intoxication or being under the influence of a psychoactive substance when performing duties under this Contract, when student athletes are present. when attending scheduled public events or appearances, or during media contacts.

LINK

Note that 6.1.3 changed significantly between the two contracts; the other provisions under 6.1 were identical. Subsection 6.2 on Pitino’s disability also changed significantly, but that language isn’t germane to the lawsuit.

What changed in essence was that explicit exemption for the misconduct of Pitino’s subordinates/assistants was removed from his final contract. Not coincidentally, that was a central issue with stripper-gate, McGee’s responsibility and Pitino’s claim not to know. And an answer to the “why change” question is obvious. Management undoubtedly did not like that Pitino’s contract in force gave him an unambiguous release from responsibility for stripper-gate and any other clandestine activity by his staff that he didn’t know about...

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How important it is to put in the work in the offseason. We look like a team that didn’t do anything in the offseason and just sat around thinking we would be good without trying. Very ill prepared for this season and just don’t play smart football.

This is how it feels to be a losing group. Here’s hoping they are motivated to change that next year.

well, that’s not a good start.

Cards open as a 12 point dog against the bye.

To turn things around. Just thought that simple idea should sink in amidst the pervasive negativity. As rational people know, he’s earned the right to have a really bad year whether you like it or not. I hope like hell he can rally the troops and you should too because there’s no way we can hire a new coach next year.

He visited UNC today.

https://www.tigernet.com/update/Rep...chool-visit-another-ACC-school-pursuing-31110

Because he can't build a program. He takes the past coaches recruits and and wins with them. This is the team Bobby built. No one wants to coach with him.
He's surrounded himself with the only people that like him. His family. We took a D coordinator who was out of job this time last year. Rant over.

and I thought last week was bad. Btw duke beat gt

That's the question on my mind come early next year. Trust me, I know that there's still half of this season left to be played, but as we look and are playing now, it's a honest question that I'll have to make, like others will I'm sure (IF) the report is true about Louisville won't have enough money to buy him out if that becomes an option in there minds. I, like others, don't want him to return next season. I know that this is my own opinion, but, Bobby Petrino doesn't look and sound like he wants to be here.

First off, I come in peace and have nothing but respect for the city of Louisville and UL.

I am surprised your fanbase seems so quick to try and run your greatest football coach in history out of town. Back in 2005 Joe Tiller hit a bump in the road with a young rebuilding team that opened the season 2-6 and ultimately missed a bowl game for the first time in 10 years. A good portion of Boiler nation tried to run Tiller out of town and regretted it 3 years later when we hired the first of back to back BAD hires. Bobby has earned at least "one" rebuilding year with such a young team and his offense is already coming around...

I am also surprised at the arrogance your fanbase has towards Brohm's current situation at Purdue. Over the past couple of years Purdue has really invested in big boy football with an amazing football only complex that you can put up against OSU or Clemson along with unlimited resources and support coach Brohm and his family could ever want to build a championship program. Purdue has made stadium upgrades and is about to launch a new significant South Endzone project to close in the current beer garden and seating. Attendance is close to capacity with a huge sold out student section that would rival any major football program. Brohm came to Purdue to build a championship program and in two quick years is already on the cusp of competing for the West division.

Why would he want his alma mater who is already in a really bad place financially to spend 20M to to put him in the awkward position of replacing a L'ville legend? He has a great gig at Purdue and is building something really special in the best conference in college football. Purdue is a much better gig now than it was 3 years ago and is currently the better job vs Louisville. The President, BOT and AD are all aligned and serious about building a championship program. I know first hand the Brohm family is loving West La La and the Purdue community. Maybe at the end of the current Petrino contract he can think about going home again after Purdue plays in back to back Rose Bowls...

Good luck the rest of the way and Boiler Up!

TV Teddy Valentine coming to the ACC.

His contract wasn't renewed by the Big Ten and he apparently will be picked up by the SEC and ACC for games.

yippee.
*fart noise*

I have direct tv and cant find the game. Anyone know what channel its on??