achilles992000 said:

things that have to cleared up. shot fake Waterman and he will leave his feet. easy to drive on him. Traore can't shoot. play the passing lanes. Pryor will dribble excessively: pick him off. Edwards slow wind up: go for block on his shooting side. team will drive but won't shoot 2 pointers: play the passing lanes on the corner or wing 3 point side.

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Not sure why Traore seems to be the guy who gets picked out the most. Yeah, he has underperformed in the first 2 games but so has a couple of other players. Maybe its because a lot of fans don't really know who he is but he came from a respectable Long Beach St and had some impressive numbers. I think that's why Kelsey was starting him. He can't all of a sudden be a dog. Here are some of his numbers and he's scored double digits for two of his college years.

CAREER: Became the 19th player in school history to record 500 rebounds in just two seasons … Currently sits 15th with 549 career rebounds … On pace to join the school’s 1,000 point scorers and has a chance to join Lucious Harris, Ed Ratleff and Larry Anderson as the only LBSU players to record 1,000 points, 500 rebounds and 300 assists in their careers.

Lets revisit this. Look, it's not like IU is taking a spot from us. Might have thought so at one time but not now. IU took advantage of a situation that now looks brilliant. Maybe if our AD had that foresight. Looking back, IU might have done us a favor. Can anyone with certainty say we would have beat IU or would Brohm have laid another turd? Hope not but wouldn't bet my house on it. Instead of 6-4, we could be 5-5 right now needing a win against Pitt and the kitties to get to 7-5. Might still get there but I'm hoping for 8-4.

There's no question that Jeff Brohm has had a successful career as a head coach. He actually got Purdue respectable and proved that he was a hands on head coach with big aspirations.

However, after taking the job at Louisville he has to realize this is not Purdue and even though fans were pumped he was hired, they're not going to sit back and excuse performances that we saw against Stanford.

Now logic dictates there's little chance Brohm would be fired if next season doesn't meet expectations, but the way things have been going on with Louisville sports, fans are just going to get more apathetic.

Not only did the Cards lose as a 21 point favorite, they did it like they have zero discipline and accountability. The penalties throughout the game was never addressed and it literally caused the loss at the end. I mean why would Riley try to block a 57 yard FG? Didn't any coach tell the players not to go offsides? Don't risk a closer FG with a penalty.

Most likely it wasn't Brohm who was no doubt looking at his play cards in preparation for overtime.

Jeff Brohm's title is head coach but his desire, what he lives for, is calling plays during the game. I think in just this short two season example, Brohm has shown to me that he's not yet great as a head coach. He may look like it when he has a great QB and skill position players, but overall he lacks the skills needed to manage the entire game and not just the offense.

For years I thought it just had to be coincidence or just a fluke all those bad upset losses right after a big win, but after the Stanford debacle, it has to be something he's doing or not doing.

The fans are not just disappointed but they're pissed. We're done with the BS and even though we were in love with hiring the former Cardinals great, he will receive no quarter from a fanbase when his team embarrasses us.

I for one am one fan who will no longer complain about Louisville football being disrespected. The debacle against Stanford is what stays in the minds of football pundits and they can never fully trust the program. After all, Lamar Jackson wins the Heisman while the Cards lost their last three games.

Something we saw last season and will may likely see again this season.

This is why fans are ready to jettison Jeff Brohm. It's either that or the game of college football. It's not worth the pain anymore.

Find me a coach at any level consistently wins at a championship level with less talent or equal talent. That is the reality. Yes, any team can find lightning in a bottle but to be consistently at the top you have to have the better rosters and coaching staff. Also those teams that are less talented has to catch a break in their schedule i.e Indiana.

I think Jeff is a good coach. I think Satterfield is a good coach. They were both limited because of their talent. Same goes for basketball Mack and Kelsey are good coaches. However no coach is going to out-scheme teams at this level. The best coaches have good schemes and they recruit at a high level.

The ACC talent level amongst its teams is basically level. The SEC is the same within their conference the talent level is basically the same. That is why we are seeing parity set in within each conference. That is why every week is a battle unless a team just has a bad game.

The Stanford game exposed the defensive staff. That is my take away. They had 2 weeks to prepare for a bad offense that had 2 options on offense. They did zero scheme wise to take away those options. It also exposed the talent level on the defense. You can’t get torched like that and say man that team has dudes. Just the opposite.

CardX said:

Hi, Trinity alum. You’re missing the brevity of the situation. Cards were ranked. Cards were getting respect in the playoffs vote. There was huge momentum after the Clemson win.

They shat the bed against one of the worst teams in college football. It was bad. Embarrassing. Disgusting. Brohm is not a great coach. He isn’t close to being good. He drops the ball so frequently.

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I think you mean “gravity”

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^^^^^^^^ totally agree; once again we are witnessing the disadvantage CJW has with the absence of skilled BIGs.

I do not think so. CJW simply lacks the size and athleticism in the paint to compete against those teams with tall and reasonably skilled interior opponents. UK women had three (3j “bigs” 6’3” and taller combine for 38 points and 31 rebounds. Cochran and Harris were AWOL.

Brohm tried to milk the clock with a 15 point lead by running the football on 1st and 2nd down, when Stanford adjusted their defense to stop the run. Clemson and now Stanford showed the advantage of having 4 downs versus 3, when our defense relaxed. Horrible message to send your football team. Score baby score!

Thecycle27 said:

In their 4 losses they averaged 32 pts a game. That really should be good enough. I not sure I agree play calling is bad. I do think they haven’t executed the call but that doesn’t mean it was a bad call. You get stuffed on 3rd-1 or 4th-1 someone missed a block.

The 3rd down call that Bell dropped or Shough missed was a good call he was going to go for another 10-20 yards. Good call not executed. The long throw Shough missed with Brooks he was open it was a bad throw. They are college kids they aren’t going to operate efficiently all the time. Plus defenses call the right plays too and they execute.

The issue is the defense. The question is can they have a championship level staff and players. I think that is unlikely.

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No disagreement there Cycle, the point that I am making is the pressure we assume in having to complete a pass on third or forth down consistently.. We were successful a few times, but it is unreasonable to expect the QB and the intended receiver to connect every series. I am not suggesting an abandonment from our running game, as Watson demonstrated just how effective it can be on his 60+ yard TD. It was how the game changed after that score went up to 15 points, as Stanford adjusted their defense from that point on to stop the run on 1st and 2nd down, just as Clemson had done in the fourth quarter in Death Valley. Our opponents recognized that Brohm was intent on running the clock rather than continuing to try and score.

When we had possession of the football with the 15 point lead, Brohm should have stayed with the success we were having with our passing game on 1st and 2nd down, as witnessing Stanford’s defense had adjusted, knowing Brohm wanted to run the ball as a way to run the clock. We were fortunate that it worked against Clemson, but only a result of their inability to execute as effectively as Stanford did to make up the 15 point deficit.

I agree with Dan; the collapse Saturday was reminiscent of Kragthorpe’s loss to Syracuse; “we stole defeat from the jaws of victory”.

Ipartiedwithhopgood said:

LOL!

He wins 10 year one puts you in the ACCT game for the first time ever and he's getting that near future ultimatum the next year at 6-4 a week after beating Clemson for the first time in program history.

No doubt this loss was bad, and his clock mgt in the final 15 seconds is frightening and can't happen again. If that becomes a trend or something sure everything needs to be on the table.

The season didn't go as fans hoped, and it's very possible they've won their last game they are going to win for the year.

But you don't have a super talented team, more than likely never will have one in the future, probably because your bigger problem is you don't have the NIL $ to compete with flagship programs. So musical chairs for your HC probably ain't your answer. You probably need to reassess all of this and what you're hoping for as a fan.

Your margins are thin most weeks given your roster. They needed everything they had to be Virginia, who is also terrible. Same with BC who is a very mild upgrade and still pretty bad if we're being honest.

But on other days the Cards can go toe to toe with more talented programs like Clemson and ND. Probably, because the HC you are mad at can coach.

The guy you have loves it here, though it is possible some fans could make him rethink that. That's not to say he gets a pass but if you're thinking this way you probably need to find a new hobby.

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Hi, Trinity alum. You’re missing the brevity of the situation. Cards were ranked. Cards were getting respect in the playoffs vote. There was huge momentum after the Clemson win.

They shat the bed against one of the worst teams in college football. It was bad. Embarrassing. Disgusting. Brohm is not a great coach. He isn’t close to being good. He drops the ball so frequently.

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I remember EVERYBODY bitching about a certain coach and him constantly staring at his “Waffle House Menu”….

Ring any bells? Gotta hope this turns out differently.

That said, wishin’ and hopin’ has defined UofL sports going on a decade now. TEN YEARS

I’m tired. And losing hope. All we have done is make many people rich while we fans get less and less.

Coaches get rich, win or lose. Something is wrong with that.

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Cardiac Red said:

His only shot at saving any grace is winning the last two games. I don't care if he has to replace players opting out with Labybirds, he better win... I'd say look for about 20 k fans this Saturday.. People not giving up their Saturdays for this bullshit.

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Yeah, many Cards fans have totally given up this season. Here we were actually receiving national respect being ranked 19th in the playoff rankings, even with three losses, and we lose to Stanford as 21 point favorites and do it with constant mistakes and penalties.

It's embarrassing. Did Satterfield ever lose here as a 21 point favorite? Jeff Brohm is starting to look like a mirage and not the real deal we thought he was.

Someone in the media needs to ask him about calling the plays instead of coaching the game. If he wants to be a coordinator then be one, but if he wants to be a top head coach, he needs to concentrate on doing that more.

When the camera is on him, he's never coaching, he's looking at his play cards talking to his brother in the booth. Even when we're on defense.

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Cardiac Red said:

His only shot at saving any grace is winning the last two games. I don't care if he has to replace players opting out with Labybirds, he better win... I'd say look for about 20 k fans this Saturday.. People not giving up their Saturdays for this bullshit.

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I understand the frustration. Hell I flew all way across the country to watch that meltdown in person. But man I’d hope we have more fans than that on Saturday. Being at the games and tailgating with my family and friends is something I consider a real joy in my life.

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Rollem Cards said:

The next two games may prove nothing as we’ll have to see who stays and plays.

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His only shot at saving any grace is winning the last two games. I don't care if he has to replace players opting out with Labybirds, he better win... I'd say look for about 20 k fans this Saturday.. People not giving up their Saturdays for this bullshit.

Thecycle27 said:

Just curious who would you replace him with?

He is not going anywhere, but he is going to have to figure out his defensive philosophy.

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I'm not saying replace him yet but he needs a pep talk from Heird at minimum.. His history of losing to turd teams after big wins has to be addressed.. Send him to a sports shrink or something.. I do think English needs to be gone, unless, Brohm has a hand in the defensive play calling (which I doubt, but)..

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CardX said:

How long has that MFer been a HC? Does he feel so safe in his job security that he can coach like that, his team plays like that, and there are no consequences? This isn’t the first time, either. Though, today was particularly the worst. Maybe I’ll cool off tomorrow, but that was epically, historically, bad. Very bad. God awful. No ****ing excuse for that.

He needs to win out or there will be a revolt, I don’t care what his last name is. Total crap.

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Update: I have not cooled off. What an abomination that was. No excuse. None.

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