rh62531 said:

We just had a top 10 recruit and one of the top 2 point guards in. On all of the social media sights we were all encouraged to welcome Stokes at the airport. We were informed he was a priority. True, we cast a wide net, but OK coach informs us when an important recruit is in town. Transfers will be a big piece of teams, but PK sees a special kid, he will focus on him.

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Stokes is from here born and raised .

Mayoman said:

So you can't or won't answer the questions.

Your word salad answer is par for the cousre. If you get Phil Steele's mag, look on page 106 under Phil's Forecoast and you will get the answer on how IU has gone 6-0. This is too easy.

Mindless bots gotta bot. That is you.

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Can you or can you not recruit Tyler Shough, Brooks, and Lacy as well as the portal? It’s not one or another. You are word salad, I’ll continue to look at what the numbers say

So you can't or won't answer the questions.

Your word salad answer is par for the cousre. If you get Phil Steele's mag, look on page 106 under Phil's Forecoast and you will get the answer on how IU has gone 6-0. This is too easy.

Mindless bots gotta bot. That is you.

Mayoman said:

Your denial is the real misinformation.

We get it you don't like using the portal and like HS recruits more...good thing you are not the Cards coach and Jeff B. is.

Were it not for the portal just how would CJB have replaced all the transfers out when Satt left? Would HS recruits only been able to pull last seasons record off?

Although he was dissed alot...where would the cards have been without transfer Plummer at QB last year? Would they have made it to the 10 wins record.?

And for that matter how would this years Cards be without QB Schough? And Brooks, and Lacy. etc, etc.

You take is a broken record sir. The portal is the future and now that NLI has been blown up by the NCAA, God only knows what impact that is going to have on HS recruiting too.

Tell us this...How did IU and Rutgers turn their programs around this year? Hell even your whipping post on this issue, Colorado, has turned this season around too. Please explain that. It isn't with just HS recruits.

One size does not fit all. More and more of the P4 schools will rely and rely more on the portal as time goes on to complement their HS recruits. That is and will be the reality. That you can't or won't admit this is insane.

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Your take is a broken record. Data doesn’t even support what you say lol. Like I said.. take a look around. No one isn’t saying. Not to use the portal, everyone will use it to an extent, having 80% of your roster being transfers every year, is in fact not. But yes, go off about how people are using the portal, that’s common sense. No one is using it the way we are. Provide data to back your statement, otherwise it’s an opinion. We have had the least HS recruits in the P4 in the last 3 classes… by a wide margin. Let’s not talk opinions let’s talk numbers.

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Louis III said:

IU sucks! They have played NOONE. Best win is Maryland. They are 6-0 and I'll bet anyone on here the under at 9 wins. They will probably go 8-4, but I won't be shocked at 7-5.

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True on the SoS. And I detest IU almost as much as UK.

Howeverf, take a look at their last 3 years; 2021: 2-10, 2022: 4-8 and 2923: 3-9. So significant improvement in the W-L's category.

Thats only 9 wins the last 3 years and they are at 6 now?

Remaining games: Nebraska, Washington, @Michigan State, Michigan, @ OSU, and close with Purdue at home. Four at home and only two away. Pull an upset or two and hold court with MICH St and Purdue they will win 8 or maybe 9.

They have beaten BIG teams: @UCLA, @ Northwestern and Maryland at home. Not too shabby.

Phil Steele states "He Cignetti brought in a ton of transfers this year (And Allen brought in 25 in 2023) and 6 from the Cignetti JMU defense alone this year.. So heavy use of the portal system for IU by both coaches in the last two seasons.

Their new coach from JMU knows what to do and how to coach um up = 6-0 this year so far. Surprise of the BIG so far.

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We just had a top 10 recruit and one of the top 2 point guards in. On all of the social media sights we were all encouraged to welcome Stokes at the airport. We were informed he was a priority. True, we cast a wide net, but OK coach informs us when an important recruit is in town. Transfers will be a big piece of teams, but PK sees a special kid, he will focus on him.

IU sucks! They have played NOONE. Best win is Maryland. They are 6-0 and I'll bet anyone on here the under at 9 wins. They will probably go 8-4, but I won't be shocked at 7-5.

502Cards1 said:

Dude you can’t be serious with this take lol. Do a simple 247 class rankings look and find out you couldn’t be farther from the truth. HS recruiting hasn’t been irrelevant and is still the main priority of 95% of P4 schools.

Go take a peak, Maryland, TCU, Duke, Baylor, Syracuse, Washington, Wisconsin, SMU, Rutgers, GT, Pitt, WVU, ASU, the school you mentioned INDIANA…. The list goes on and on and on and I left off ALL of the bluebloods/major programs. You know what those teams have in common up there?? They all have 20+ HS commitments. Stop spreading misinformation on something that’s a simple google search, HS recruiting is relevant to everyone except Louisville… hence why we have the worst P4 class in the country. Get a grip.

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Your denial is the real misinformation.

We get it you don't like using the portal and like HS recruits more...good thing you are not the Cards coach and Jeff B. is.

Were it not for the portal just how would CJB have replaced all the transfers out when Satt left? Would HS recruits only been able to pull last seasons record off?

Although he was dissed alot...where would the cards have been without transfer Plummer at QB last year? Would they have made it to the 10 wins record.?

And for that matter how would this years Cards be without QB Schough? And Brooks, and Lacy. etc, etc.

You take is a broken record sir. The portal is the future and now that NLI has been blown up by the NCAA, God only knows what impact that is going to have on HS recruiting too.

Tell us this...How did IU and Rutgers turn their programs around this year? Hell even your whipping post on this issue, Colorado, has turned this season around too. Please explain that. It isn't with just HS recruits.

One size does not fit all. More and more of the P4 schools will rely and rely more on the portal as time goes on to complement their HS recruits. That is and will be the reality. That you can't or won't admit this is insane.

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You can add 20-25 transfers, but you can still have 20 HS recruits plus 30-40 guys return as well.

I think the concern for Jeff Brohm now is that we know he can add through the portal fine, but building continuity and depth over time.

Like Vanderbilt, 9 of their 1st stringers on offense are returning starters. 9 of their defense first string are returning guys. They added a QB that played last year for their new OC. They mixed things in. You need to keep the culture going.

Next year we're going to bring in almost 20 new guys on our 2-deep on defense. That's not going to be great.

Good at least their will be some kind of fail safe for both sides players/schools. School shopping and tampering. We will get to see who is cheating again. Because we know tampering still going to happen.

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2330859 said:

The Portal has changed everything; perhaps the two best examples of just how irrelevant that HS recruiting has become for most schools, outside of the schools like Alabama, UGA, OSU and Michigan, is the changes at Vanderbilt and Indiana.

Both of those two schools have historically been relegated to the bottom of their respective conferences, and while my observations are not intended to predict success for either one; I believe they serve as solid examples of just how effective use of the Portal can determine any College Football Team’s success from one year to the next, without attracting 4 & 5 Star recruits.

Johnson’s decommitment will have no impact one way or another, as the likelihood of Johnson spending more than one year at any school is 50/50 at best.

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Dude you can’t be serious with this take lol. Do a simple 247 class rankings look and find out you couldn’t be farther from the truth. HS recruiting hasn’t been irrelevant and is still the main priority of 95% of P4 schools.

Go take a peak, Maryland, TCU, Duke, Baylor, Syracuse, Washington, Wisconsin, SMU, Rutgers, GT, Pitt, WVU, ASU, the school you mentioned INDIANA…. The list goes on and on and on and I left off ALL of the bluebloods/major programs. You know what those teams have in common up there?? They all have 20+ HS commitments. Stop spreading misinformation on something that’s a simple google search, HS recruiting is relevant to everyone except Louisville… hence why we have the worst P4 class in the country. Get a grip.

Sorry to say but Kelsey hasn't coach a game yet besides exhibitions. Nowadays, kids want instant proof of success. Fans can buy into it, players are a different story. They want to see results.

Nowadays, you need the cache of a Duke, Bill Self, or Dan Hurley to pull that off. The program and/or the coach have to have a level of awe to them - and sadly PK nor UofL has that right now. If you only focus on 5-6 guys and then Alabama or UConn or some of these programs with massive budgets and big-name coaches come in at the last minute with an offer they can't refuse, then UofL is screwed.

Currently, UofL has to cast a wide net and try to find the kids that they can hold the attention of. It seems to me that PK obviously values talent, but he's looking for a specific sort of mentality and fit. You have to check all of the boxes, and if that's your system, you have to sit down with a lot of recruits and figure out who checks those boxes. If you only care about talent, you figure out who the most talented is pretty easily.

PK didn't luck into a scenario where two top 50 kids fell into his lap or come to a program that had been the #1 destination for 1 and done talent for 15 years. He came to a broken program that hasn't been anything more than a punch line for 2 years and not relevant for 3-4 years.

beantowncard said:

Good for Tre. Hope he dies well this year.

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OOPS! Looks like the common typo error of pressing the I instead of the O has your post looking like a death wish.

Or maybe you just really hate Tre White? 😉

We all knew Pitino was a UK homer when he was hired here. Most of us was shocked when Jurich announced he was seeking Pitino for the job. I wasn't that keen on the idea just because he had coached UK, but I knew UofL needed what he would bring after the end of the Crum era.

And he did exactly what we all wanted. We played a fast and fun style, and got back to elite 8's, final 4's and a national title. The program had pizazz again and I personally didn't care anymore that he coached at UK.

Everything was grand until Andre McGee. Before that dipshit, the program under Pitino had no NCAA infractions while programs all around the game did. However, as we again all know, Pitino, having just won his 2nd title and being selected for the Hall of Fame, he let his guard down and delegated and trusted in his former players a bit naively.

Most Cards fans I know believe what Luke Hancock says about the scandal, which is that those people on the team that knew of the parties, didn't want to bring the wrath of Pitino and jeopardize the teams championship chances. Everything in Pitino's past suggested he would never allow major infractions.

However, the sordid details of the parties and the media backlash was to forever change the perception of Pitino from not only fans but of his peers in the world of college basketball. He continued on coaching despite being double crossed by the people hired to mitigate any sanctions and he soon discovered he was going to be scrutinized for every little thing until eventually the FBI of all people, used his notoriety to push it's probe into college basketball malfeasance.

UofL, for whatever reason and there's several opinions, decided to rid both Pitino and Jurich despite knowing that Pitino was not one of the coaches the FBI had the goods on. And everything after that is what led Pitino to his disdain for the UofL basketball program today. He also probably was disappointed in the amount of Cards fans who voice their hatred of him.

So it's a natural thing for him to go back to being a UK homer, especially after Mark Pope was hired.

I believe Pitino one day hopes to be back in the Cards good graces, but if it doesn't happen, so be it. The fact is Louisville needed him more than he needed UofL, and I think we all have to admit had Jurich hired someone else, this stretch of okay to bad basketball would have started a lot sooner than it did.