Josh Johnson Decommits
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Looks like he unofficially visited Penn St this past weekend
So what's the scoop on the guy ? Is this a huge loss ? Or just a guy that probably wasn't going to play much anyway..
If signing day was this week then it would be a huge loss, there are many players similar that are available.
The Portal has changed everything; perhaps the two best examples of just how irrelevant that HS recruiting has become for most schools, outside of the schools like Alabama, UGA, OSU and Michigan, is the changes at Vanderbilt and Indiana.
Both of those two schools have historically been relegated to the bottom of their respective conferences, and while my observations are not intended to predict success for either one; I believe they serve as solid examples of just how effective use of the Portal can determine any College Football Team’s success from one year to the next, without attracting 4 & 5 Star recruits.
Johnson’s decommitment will have no impact one way or another, as the likelihood of Johnson spending more than one year at any school is 50/50 at best.
Both of those two schools have historically been relegated to the bottom of their respective conferences, and while my observations are not intended to predict success for either one; I believe they serve as solid examples of just how effective use of the Portal can determine any College Football Team’s success from one year to the next, without attracting 4 & 5 Star recruits.
Johnson’s decommitment will have no impact one way or another, as the likelihood of Johnson spending more than one year at any school is 50/50 at best.
Not shocking. He was considered a Penn St lean when he committed to Louisville.
Dude you can’t be serious with this take lol. Do a simple 247 class rankings look and find out you couldn’t be farther from the truth. HS recruiting hasn’t been irrelevant and is still the main priority of 95% of P4 schools.
Go take a peak, Maryland, TCU, Duke, Baylor, Syracuse, Washington, Wisconsin, SMU, Rutgers, GT, Pitt, WVU, ASU, the school you mentioned INDIANA…. The list goes on and on and on and I left off ALL of the bluebloods/major programs. You know what those teams have in common up there?? They all have 20+ HS commitments. Stop spreading misinformation on something that’s a simple google search, HS recruiting is relevant to everyone except Louisville… hence why we have the worst P4 class in the country. Get a grip.
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You can add 20-25 transfers, but you can still have 20 HS recruits plus 30-40 guys return as well.
I think the concern for Jeff Brohm now is that we know he can add through the portal fine, but building continuity and depth over time.
Like Vanderbilt, 9 of their 1st stringers on offense are returning starters. 9 of their defense first string are returning guys. They added a QB that played last year for their new OC. They mixed things in. You need to keep the culture going.
Next year we're going to bring in almost 20 new guys on our 2-deep on defense. That's not going to be great.
I think the concern for Jeff Brohm now is that we know he can add through the portal fine, but building continuity and depth over time.
Like Vanderbilt, 9 of their 1st stringers on offense are returning starters. 9 of their defense first string are returning guys. They added a QB that played last year for their new OC. They mixed things in. You need to keep the culture going.
Next year we're going to bring in almost 20 new guys on our 2-deep on defense. That's not going to be great.
Your denial is the real misinformation.
We get it you don't like using the portal and like HS recruits more...good thing you are not the Cards coach and Jeff B. is.
Were it not for the portal just how would CJB have replaced all the transfers out when Satt left? Would HS recruits only been able to pull last seasons record off?
Although he was dissed alot...where would the cards have been without transfer Plummer at QB last year? Would they have made it to the 10 wins record.?
And for that matter how would this years Cards be without QB Schough? And Brooks, and Lacy. etc, etc.
You take is a broken record sir. The portal is the future and now that NLI has been blown up by the NCAA, God only knows what impact that is going to have on HS recruiting too.
Tell us this...How did IU and Rutgers turn their programs around this year? Hell even your whipping post on this issue, Colorado, has turned this season around too. Please explain that. It isn't with just HS recruits.
One size does not fit all. More and more of the P4 schools will rely and rely more on the portal as time goes on to complement their HS recruits. That is and will be the reality. That you can't or won't admit this is insane.
True on the SoS. And I detest IU almost as much as UK.
Howeverf, take a look at their last 3 years; 2021: 2-10, 2022: 4-8 and 2923: 3-9. So significant improvement in the W-L's category.
Thats only 9 wins the last 3 years and they are at 6 now?
Remaining games: Nebraska, Washington, @Michigan State, Michigan, @ OSU, and close with Purdue at home. Four at home and only two away. Pull an upset or two and hold court with MICH St and Purdue they will win 8 or maybe 9.
They have beaten BIG teams: @UCLA, @ Northwestern and Maryland at home. Not too shabby.
Phil Steele states "He Cignetti brought in a ton of transfers this year (And Allen brought in 25 in 2023) and 6 from the Cignetti JMU defense alone this year.. So heavy use of the portal system for IU by both coaches in the last two seasons.
Their new coach from JMU knows what to do and how to coach um up = 6-0 this year so far. Surprise of the BIG so far.
Your take is a broken record. Data doesn’t even support what you say lol. Like I said.. take a look around. No one isn’t saying. Not to use the portal, everyone will use it to an extent, having 80% of your roster being transfers every year, is in fact not. But yes, go off about how people are using the portal, that’s common sense. No one is using it the way we are. Provide data to back your statement, otherwise it’s an opinion. We have had the least HS recruits in the P4 in the last 3 classes… by a wide margin. Let’s not talk opinions let’s talk numbers.
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So you can't or won't answer the questions.
Your word salad answer is par for the cousre. If you get Phil Steele's mag, look on page 106 under Phil's Forecoast and you will get the answer on how IU has gone 6-0. This is too easy.
Mindless bots gotta bot. That is you.
Your word salad answer is par for the cousre. If you get Phil Steele's mag, look on page 106 under Phil's Forecoast and you will get the answer on how IU has gone 6-0. This is too easy.
Mindless bots gotta bot. That is you.
Can you or can you not recruit Tyler Shough, Brooks, and Lacy as well as the portal? It’s not one or another. You are word salad, I’ll continue to look at what the numbers say
1 year head coach brings over half of his very successful roster from JMU and Indiana has played a cake walk schedule… was Cignetti magically supposed to put together a the 24’ class for Indiana when he wasn’t there? Portal was his only option. You can now look at the emphasis on HS recruiting from him though! But you wouldn’t do that, right? Regardless.. you are using 1 teams success to explain what the 65 other P4 teams are doing? Nice work. Keep beating the “you can only utilize one or the other drum.”
I mean if beating: FIE, Western Illinois, Charlotte, UCLA, MAryland, and Northwestern is the goal and getting 6-7 wins yearly, then that's good for us if it's the goal. We need to evaluate if fully transfer portal roster building is how to build an ACC champion. People don't need to move the goal posts. We brought in Brohm to be better than Satt and take the next step, so maybe he can do it in the portal every year if just being good enough it the goal, but we want more and expect more.
502, you are living in the past; and your use of statistics to support your opinion is flawed. 24/7 and Rival recruiting data has been around a long time, but the Portal has only been in place since 2018, and it took several more years (2021) before NIL was adopted by the NCAA. What you fail to understand, is it is not about the number of players on the roster who return to their original school selection, but it is the much smaller number of skill position players who influence the improvement of these schools. The QBs clearly have the greatest impact, followed by the WRs, RBs, and CBs. Vanderbilt serves as the best example of my point, Diego Pavia arriving at QB explains their success in Nashville.
The Portal “giveth and taketh away”; look at our own roster and tell me where we would be without the Portal? We will begin to see this phenomena increase as schools realize they must succeed with attracting NIL funds, as most of the big money will be directed towards the Portal where there is evidence of performance at the Collegiant level.
The Portal “giveth and taketh away”; look at our own roster and tell me where we would be without the Portal? We will begin to see this phenomena increase as schools realize they must succeed with attracting NIL funds, as most of the big money will be directed towards the Portal where there is evidence of performance at the Collegiant level.
It is an extremely competitive in fluid environment. Volume wise the top end talent in high school and transfers are going to the brands. I think it is a heathy mix but the reality is any freshmen that is good will test the market. Watch what happens with Brown in the off season.
Louisville will never land enough freshman talent to protect itself from poaching. Then the developmental high school players may transfer to lower level to play. There will be years where they just hit it right in the portal. Then there will be years where they will miss.
The immediately transfers has made it ridiculously competitive. The top teams can be gotten. The middle of the road teams every game will be a dog fight. Louisville could be 6-0 or 2-4. When teams are that close the odds are you aren’t going to always make that key play. The better odds are is the team won’t make that play.
Louisville will never land enough freshman talent to protect itself from poaching. Then the developmental high school players may transfer to lower level to play. There will be years where they just hit it right in the portal. Then there will be years where they will miss.
The immediately transfers has made it ridiculously competitive. The top teams can be gotten. The middle of the road teams every game will be a dog fight. Louisville could be 6-0 or 2-4. When teams are that close the odds are you aren’t going to always make that key play. The better odds are is the team won’t make that play.
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