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No, you did from the beginning of the thread. You said UofL's starters were 66 points better than their reserves, and UK's were 11 points better.
I'll be nice since I'm not sure you're understanding...

The only way your examples--other Spring games--are relevant is if they were also playing starters vs. reserves. If it's the starting offense against the starting defense, that's a BIG difference and NOT how U of L and LPT ran their respective games.

You need to research how those other schools conducted scrimmages to prove your point that other games conducted as ones vs. twos were low scoring. Maybe they were, but that's on you to check.

LPT Football: Great, Bill's holding the cards...
 
It's like this, I told Zipp and Ipartied last summer that UK would go as far as Towles took them. That he had the tools physically, but I was afraid he didn't have it between the ears, those were my exact words and they played out. He was the same QB last year making the same mistakes as he was the years previously. Stoops failed in not getting Barker in game action soon enough, Petrino would've yanked Towles butt during the Florida game, rightfully so.

A team is only as good as their QB, college especially. Louisville had Jackson, who although he made plenty of mistakes passing, his blinding speed bought him much needed time and yardage, UK lost Boom and Kemp, and with that any semblance of a running game, and Barker wasn't ready for the big stage.

The teams are close, you guys won 7 regular season games last year, UK won 5 thats not as big a gap as you gentlemen would like to believe, and probably not as close as I believe.
You nailed it on the head - Barker wasn't ready for prime time and he still not but your only other alternative is a guy who was 2nd team at Gambling State. You are also right about Stoops & Petrino. The only difference is Petrino would of developed Towles and put him in a position to be successful. For the rest you need to take off the big blue glasses.The only position I would trade starters with UofL is maybe RB. But even there UK has a guy who has already quit once. Bottom line is that as long as we have Petrino vs Stoops the gap is going to continue to be as wide as the Grand Canyon.
 
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It's like this, I told Zipp and Ipartied last summer that UK would go as far as Towles took them. That he had the tools physically, but I was afraid he didn't have it between the ears, those were my exact words and they played out. He was the same QB last year making the same mistakes as he was the years previously. Stoops failed in not getting Barker in game action soon enough, Petrino would've yanked Towles butt during the Florida game, rightfully so.

A team is only as good as their QB, college especially. Louisville had Jackson, who although he made plenty of mistakes passing, his blinding speed bought him much needed time and yardage, UK lost Boom and Kemp, and with that any semblance of a running game, and Barker wasn't ready for the big stage.

The teams are close, you guys won 7 regular season games last year, UK won 5 thats not as big a gap as you gentlemen would like to believe, and probably not as close as I believe.
UK's 5 wins. Missouri & S. Carolina combined 2-14 in the SEC. Louisiana- Laf. Charlotte & EKU in OT. Not exactly murderers row.
 
"I think UK is better than Louisville this year.....UK has the better QB RB WRs and OL. Defenses are probably closer to each other than the offenses...."

Anyone want to take a gander at who penned that gem? Hint: B_ _L

What you fail to mention is that was written last summer before the season started. No one, not even posters on here realized Jackson was going to be as good as he turned out.

His ability to scramble and keep defenses on their toes changed the game.

Outside of Jackson your offense was a little stagnant.
 
You nailed it on the head - Barker wasn't ready for prime time and he still not but your only other alternative is a guy who was 2nd team at Gambling State. You are also right about Stoops & Petrino. The only difference is Petrino would of developed Towles and put him in a position to be successful. For the rest you need to take off the big blue glasses.The only position I would trade starters with UofL is maybe RB. But even there UK has a guy who has already quit once. Bottom line is that as long as we have Petrino vs Stoops the gap is going to continue to be as wide as the Grand Canyon.

I don't think even Petrino could be developed Towles, accuracy is something you have or don't. Not to mention full game speed decisions.
 
Florida, and Auburn were right there for the taking.

UK fan telling half a story. They love to mention the games barely lost that would have given their teams more wins.

They never mention their close wins though.

EKU, Ragin Cajuns, South Carolina, and even Missouri were right there.

UK could have easily won just 1 game all year.
 
I'll be nice since I'm not sure you're understanding...

The only way your examples--other Spring games--are relevant is if they were also playing starters vs. reserves. If it's the starting offense against the starting defense, that's a BIG difference and NOT how U of L and LPT ran their respective games.

You need to research how those other schools conducted scrimmages to prove your point that other games conducted as ones vs. twos were low scoring. Maybe they were, but that's on you to check.

LPT Football: Great, Bill's holding the cards...

I completely understand Zipp. You're craw fishing.
The Cats and Cards didn't play the same either, but it doesn't matter, it's a meaningless spring game.
 
How many teams did Louisville beat with winning records last year during the regular season ?

Bill trying real hard here excluding UofL's bowl win over A&M. The game counted, it wasn't a scrimmage.

Just because UK doesn't get bowl games doesn't mean they don't count for other teams Bill.
 
UK fan telling half a story. They love to mention the games barely lost that would have given their teams more wins.

They never mention their close wins though.

EKU, Ragin Cajuns, South Carolina, and even Missouri were right there.

UK could have easily won just 1 game all year.

A team is only as good as their QB, the team last year was good enough that with a good decision making QB the opportunity was there to have a good season.
 
Bill trying real hard here excluding UofL's bowl win over A&M. The game counted, it wasn't a scrimmage.

Just because UK doesn't get bowl games doesn't mean they don't count for other teams Bill.

No I'm not, I was speaking of the regular season. But that goes along with a team is only as good as the QB. A and M lost their 1 and 2 QB leading up to that game.
 
A team is only as good as their QB, the team last year was good enough that with a good decision making QB the opportunity was there to have a good season.

Not sure why you quote posted me with this response - your response has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made about UK fans harping about close losses while ignoring their close wins.

We get it, you've convinced yourself a serviceable QB would have made UK a lot better. It's a great theory but the roster didn't have one of those.

Go ahead and ignore the fact that the UK D was swiss cheese, WR dropped passes, and the ST unit was a nightmare.

But yeah Bill if only UK had a QB back there! Sure thing!
 
A team is only as good as their QB, the team last year was good enough that with a good decision making QB the opportunity was there to have a good season.

If only I had a QB, if only I had a coach, if only Boom hadn't got hurt, if only......if only......can't wait for this years excuses! If only....if only infinity. Different year....same lament. UK FB in a nutshell.

Every season presents the opportunity to have a good season.....for good FB teams. UK not so much.
 
No I'm not, I was speaking of the regular season. But that goes along with a team is only as good as the QB. A and M lost their 1 and 2 QB leading up to that game.

We get it, discredit Louisville's mediocre by their standard season by first excluding a win over an 8 win SEC team in one of your posts and then double down on us and remind us A&M had issues at QB, to discredit the win while you're at it. They still lined up an elite defense that night and Lamar carved them a couple times and UofL did what good programs do - they capitalized on a moment.

I just don't understand why some of the posters around here tell you to F off dude.

You bring much respect in your posts.
 
If only I had a QB, if only I had a coach, if only Boom hadn't got hurt, if only......if only......can't wait for this years excuses! If only....if only infinity. Different year....same lament. UK FB in a nutshell.

Every season presents the opportunity to have a good season.....for good FB teams. UK not so much.

Every program has obstacles to overcome in a season, and in isolated games. In a sport with such a high volume of players that see the field, every team can play a what if game.

Using Bill's silly logic we could say UofL could have won all games other than the FSU game. But we don't do that shit around here.
 
I'm not going to walk that one back, as I feel with just a good college QB the cats could've won 8 last year.
Florida, and Auburn were right there for the taking.

You're a complete idiot. EKU, SC, ULL and really Missouri could say the same thing. So as easily as 5-7 "could've been" 8-4, 5-7 could've been 1-11. You really suck at this.
 
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I mean this in all seriousness, but something tells me Bill isn't really playing with a full deck. Elevator doesn't go all the way to the top. A few bricks shy of a load, etc. I think you all get the picture.
 
If, if, if and if. With all of this "if'n" going on you'd think this was porno board. And, by the way . . . there's an old saying . . . if a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his butt every time he jumped. That's kinda like uahkay. Thanks Bill for being here. You provide real comedic relief. :D

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
If only we had something we didn't have.

What a hilarious talking point.

I didn't discredit the AandM win, I didn't even bring it up, YOU did. I simply used them as an example of how important having a good QB is, or just a serviceable one. Truth of the matter is A and M was a team in turmoil, with the head coach possibly being let go because they had failed to meet expectations.

Towles was a bad QB, poor decision making, 2 td's in SEC play last year...2! He had 11 int's in the same time frame, that period includes narrow losses to UF, and Auburn and wins over USC and Mizzou, so yeah I believe a good QB could've won a few more games last year.
 
Every program has obstacles to overcome in a season, and in isolated games. In a sport with such a high volume of players that see the field, every team can play a what if game.

Using Bill's silly logic we could say UofL could have won all games other than the FSU game. But we don't do that shit around here.

No, you watch a meaningless spring game and think that's going to correspond to what happens in the Fall.
 
The rift was started because other players that didn't perform would be pulled, yet when Towles didn't perform and hadn't for over a year he stuck with him, and Barker would'nt even get in the game.
Barker may turn out being a bust as well, but the handling of Towles only delayed finding out. Towles was a bad QB, he had a big arm but that was it.
I don't think Towles was a bad QB he was just surrounded by bad players.
 
I didn't discredit the AandM win, I didn't even bring it up, YOU did. I simply used them as an example of how important having a good QB is, or just a serviceable one. Truth of the matter is A and M was a team in turmoil, with the head coach possibly being let go because they had failed to meet expectations.

Towles was a bad QB, poor decision making, 2 td's in SEC play last year...2! He had 11 int's in the same time frame, that period includes narrow losses to UF, and Auburn and wins over USC and Mizzou, so yeah I believe a good QB could've won a few more games last year.
Towles wasn't that bad of a QB he just didn't have the coaching. Hell Louisville started 3 different QB's last year. With good QB play they could of been 12-1 but they didn't. Your record says who you are and Mark Stoops record says he can't coach.
 
How many teams did Louisville beat with winning records last year during the regular season ?

Louisville beat the teams they were supposed to beat....Louisville didn't not lose to one team with a losing record...the same can't be said for certain P5 schools in the Commonwealth...Louisville didn't lose to a 4-8 P5 team with a Bowl Game on the line...Louisville handled their business against Syracuse, Wake, BC & UVa...just saying
 
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