I’m hearing Scotty D as HC and DP as Assoc HC for 5 yrs
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Agree, I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised. I think we land a name coach.
Cue, no doubt we could be in for some lean years. However, one silver lining is that programs can recover in basketball much quicker than football (see SMU). Hopefully, we’ll land a coach that can make it a quick turnaround. This season has been tough, I thank DP for his effort but it’s time to move on.
I stick with DP over Davenport any and every day of the week. If you can land a bigger name coach then go for it, but replacing DP with Davenport would be retarded.
Our recruiting is going to blow until this shoe thing is settled. Might as well let DP cut his teeth during this time and if he makes a deep run in the NCAA then you get the Brad Stevens effect.
Our recruiting is going to blow until this shoe thing is settled. Might as well let DP cut his teeth during this time and if he makes a deep run in the NCAA then you get the Brad Stevens effect.
I think we all agree this is clearly typically a destination job for a big name. It was nearly 20 years ago when we landed the biggest name in available coaches after the Denny Crum era, and it is even moreso now as a member of the ACC, and the leader in CBB TV ratings with a huge fan base.
However, these aren't typical times. As Zipp said, you have to stand down on 2018 hires until you see how the FBI scandal shakes out across the landscape. Couple that with the stated "sports de-emphasizing" announced from leadership/budget crunching and I think the rumor has merit.
However, these aren't typical times. As Zipp said, you have to stand down on 2018 hires until you see how the FBI scandal shakes out across the landscape. Couple that with the stated "sports de-emphasizing" announced from leadership/budget crunching and I think the rumor has merit.
Well it is one thing to say a coach is dirty based on whether they have been caught or even accused but maybe we can get your expert advice as to how to determine that a coach is dirty when he hasn't been accused or caught doing shady activities. If you can do that, you need to volunteer your services to Tyra.
What’s absurd is you thinking that Mack is walking away from possibly #1 seed in the NCAA and his first Big East regular season championship to coach a team on probation.
Not so sure. If Pitino was willing to leave the Knicks to take over the UK train wreck in 1989, is it that far fetched for Mack to leave a mid major program for one of the top college coaching jobs? The issue for me is do we have an AD and administration that cares about getting a top coach, getting the money together to do it, and the ability to sell it. These guys have a lot to prove. They have proven they can fire people but can they hire people?
The better question is do they want to hire a top notch coach? Getting a top notch coach to coach Louisville would not be a problem so we will find out a lot about the current administration.
He’s losing his 3 best players after this season. Now’s the perfect time to jump
That’s exactly the time that you move to a bigger, better job - when you’re at your most marketable.
What’s absurd is that you think that Xavier is somehow a better long term fit than Louisville.
Here’s a question that hasn’t been (to my knowledge) asked and I think throws a monkey wrench into the OP’s premise.
Why would anyone think that Padgett would be ok with / stick around for that scenario? I mean maybe last summer but, after he’s been the HC this year?
It’s ridiculous.
Why would anyone think that Padgett would be ok with / stick around for that scenario? I mean maybe last summer but, after he’s been the HC this year?
It’s ridiculous.
Maybe not but Xavier is not a mid major anymore or at least they are playing in a basketball power conference now with one team coming off a NC. He appears to be recruiting very well at Xavier and assuming we don’t have the money to throw around like we used to, who’s to say that Xavier can’t match an offer.
Here are my red flag parameters...
- Anyone who's signed a 5-star kid in the last ten years
- Anyone whose recruiting has improved recently (last 3-4 years)
- Anyone whose recruiting is falling off in 2018
- Anyone at a school whose recruiting improved significantly when that coach signed
- Anyone under 40 years old and currently making under $1.5 million annually at a P5 school
This isn't a big deal. The contract will have something that discusses if anything ever comes about, they will be fired or some type of clause. Idk how you can say "Anyone at a school whose recruiting improved significantly when that coach signed." There can be more reasons for that other than money, aka, the COACH. "Anyone who's signed a 5-star kid in the last ten years." Not everyone is getting paid.
All of your points are pure speculation, which goes back to my point that there will be a clause in the contract. This is not as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. The NCAA has already shown and said pretty much that no school is going to get punished. If true that it comes to be where there are a ton of schools involved, which came to fruition a little bit a few weeks ago, then there's literally no point in worrying about it or saying those are red flags.
Sure we want a clean program, but that's not something you have to worry about as much when it comes down to everyone being involved. Especially with there most likely being changes to the rules and regulations in the future.
Under the current situation it would be hard for me to believe that a 5 star kid is not being paid. The way they are networking kids, parents and shoe companies if you are not being paid you're probably considered a fool.
Then I can't wait to vacate every single game that King and Williams have played in.
Incorrect.
VJ King was #24 5* McDonald's All-American per 247 Composite/Espn
Malik Williams was #29 5* per 247/Espn
https://louisville.rivals.com/commitments/basketball/2016
https://louisville.rivals.com/commitments/basketball/2017
King was a 5 star while Williams was a 4 star recruit according to Rivals.
So put in a clause in the contract that is retroactive to past, alleged, or pending FBI/NCAA violations, and go get someone else if that plays out. Otherwise, you get the biggest fish you can and don't look back!
He does have "HR" in his name. Where I work, HR does the hiring.
I mean it took me 2 seconds. The same amount of time it takes you to hit the quote button. Whether you like it or not, VJ King was a 5* McDonald's All-American. Sheesh this board hates the truth.
A 60+ year old coach who just signed an agreement to Bellarmine that sets him up for retirement soon plans to take a 10 year job at UofL. No. He's not going to be hired. This rumor is bogus.
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HRTheCard, I you are right and I have all the respect in the world for coach Davenport but I think it would be a temporary fix. I think the rumor was floated to test opinions of the idea.
So, in the next 30 days, what good coach ready for U of L to hire is gonna find out what's in the FBI evidence? Who's gonna sign a contract that U of L can get out of for free even if he didn't know anything? Why would anyone in a secure contract elsewhere agree to that?
That type of contract only protects U of L. It offers no protection for the coach. Nor does it address the national fallout if U of L is AGAIN connected to a coach that cheats. It's just something Tyra thought up--I'm not sure current contracts don't offer the same protection--and as usual, it's inadequate.
(And under the circumstances, I'm OK with Davenport although I wasn't originally when Pitino was fired...)
We’ll get a great coach. We will not settle for Scotty. It will work out.So, in the next 30 days, what good coach ready for U of L to hire is gonna find out what's in the FBI evidence? Who's gonna sign a contract that U of L can get out of for free even if he didn't know anything? Why would anyone in a secure contract elsewhere agree to that?
That type of contract only protects U of L. It offers no protection for the coach. Nor does it address the national fallout if U of L is AGAIN connected to a coach that cheats. It's just something Tyra thought up--I'm not sure current contracts don't offer the same protection--and as usual, it's inadequate.
(And under the circumstances, I'm OK with Davenport although I wasn't originally when Pitino was fired...)
I don't worry about anything except what people define as "great"...
You tell me what AD would be able to pull Wright or Donovan away from their home BESIDES Jurich. IF there are any, it's maybe 1-2 people. That's why a reasonable, yet great coach for the next 15-20 years is Mack. He's still a young up and comer and has proved himself worthy of a job like Louisville.
