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It wasn't the officiating folks, it was really bad game management

TheRealVille
NDAFArly said:
LOL
ND got a lead because of TO’s?
UL scored 17 of their 24 points on TO’s, totaling a whopping 36 yards & one 1st Down, for those 17 points. If not for that, UL gets blown out.

And UL’s defense wasn’t faster than ND’s.
Also, and this is real, you can go back & pause the game and look for yourself…
ND lost both DE’s & was playing 2 True Freshmen DEs.
ND lost starting LBs and was playing a True Freshman & RS Freshman.
ND lost 2 of top 3 CBs during the week, then the 3rd during the game. Had a true Freshman & backup Safety playing CB most the game.

During your pause, in the 2nd half you will see the following defense on the field the majority of the time.

DE Young (True Freshman)
DE Thomas (True Freshman)
DT Onye (RSSoph)
DT Hinish (Soph)
LB KVA (True Freshman)
LB Bowen (RS Freshman)
CB Moore (True Freshman)
CB Heard (3rd Safety)
S Shuler (RSFresh)
S Watts (The only returning starter)

And that doesn’t even mention ND played the 2nd half with 4 backups on the OL.

So get out of here with the faster, more talented team.
ND beat UL with their 2nd string. That’s more talent.
And ND led for 58 minutes.
If ND doesn’t fumble opening Kickoff & ball T own 6, then what?
And once ND was up double-digits, which they were half the game, they shut it down.
They already admitted so. They said with all the injuries & youth guys playing, with two score leads, they were just milking the game.
That’s your stats disparity. Which stats mean poop when you are losing by double-digits.
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Why then did Louisville outgain ND by so much in total yards? Why didn't ND score 45 and have 450 yards of offense?

We could take all the turnovers away from both teams and rely on who has the better offense and that's Louisville by a mile. Both teams have injuries like all teams do.

The turnovers weren't caused by the defenses. It was mostly errors on the offense and the special teams. Both teams didn't play perfect football by anyone's assessment, and ND's home field advantage with the whistles just can't be denied.

ND proved they were historically overrated when they lost to UNI. If they have this supposedly great talent, then what's the problem? Again, why didn't they dominate the game against Louisville? All that talent.

LOL!
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Some thoughts off the top of my head

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* I was making the point preseason here and on Twitter that the player I was most looking forward to seeing on the field for Louisville wasn't an incoming transfer, it was Stanquan Clark. Saturday vindicated that for me because he was fantastic. Antonio Watts was right there with him and appears to have fully supplanted Ben Perry at that Rover position.

We talk a lot about whether a position group is better from one year to the next thinking that we were going to have a deep defensive line group with Gillotte being the clear headliner and a talented secondary which has shown to be a good tackling group on the corners but seeing clear breakdowns from the safeties that I think can probably be schemed out (I must have watched the 1st quarter TD pass twenty times last night and still trying to figure out just what the coverage was; we used to call it invert when I was in HS but it looked like our DB on the slot was drunk running into the CB). Linebacker is better than last year, and that was a pretty good group losing only Alderman to Miami; Clark's play is giving some indications as to why he left. I didn't expect it to be this good.

* Speaking of position groups and players leaving, for the most part we haven't really seen the negative side of losing a player in the Portal even though there are ALOT of contributors throughout the Power 4 conferences that are ex-Cards. Greedy Vance and Kani Walker are starters at CB at Southern Cal and Oklahoma respectively. Caleb Banks is starting at DT at Florida and Jermayne Lole has been at Texas. I noticed Jordan Watkins returning punts for Ole Miss against UK Saturday. Jackson Hamilton and Jaylin Alderman are playing at Ga Tech and Miami.

But someone we'd love to have back because he not only is at a position where we are most deficient, he's damned good and that's Luke Kandra at UC; who was all-Big 12 last year and he is rated as a first round draft pick as one of the top 3 guards in the upcoming draft. Put him with our current group and the possibility of sliding Collins in at Center and we have a very different looking outlook. It points out the toughness traditionally of recruiting offense linemen at Louisville; it still baffles me that we don't see offensive linemen coming out of Trinity and St. X to the extent they come out of the high schools in Lexington

* I have also made the point that our Senior Day is going to look like the Million Man March and it's so big they could probably divide it into three separate groups recognized in the remaining home games to save time on Senior Day festivities; that said, you can't help but be excited about what we've seen from the last two recruiting classes from among Clark, Isaac and Keyjuan Brown and Jamari Johnson in particular. You don't see many RBs put into a designed rollout for a wheel route/fade into a corner at any level of football like Isaac Brown's 1st quarter TD grab. And he looked as smooth as an NFL WR executing the route, the catch and the footwork. The route combination isolating Jamari Johnson on an LB up the right seam for 27 yards on his reception was also a very well designed and well executed play. For me the biggest takeaway was it was very fluid because a lot of tight ends seem to jerk at the ball rather than making a straight hands catch on the dead run; Johnson is physically completely transformed from where he was when he got on campus last year. I was concerned he was going to have to become an offensive lineman to see the field.

Adonijah Green at the DE normally manned by Tramel Logan got some reps so it looks like he's starting to earn the trust of the defensive staff.

* One guy I'm happy to see turn it around from where he was at the end of last year is Brock Travelsted; a changed breeze direction from hitting a 60 yarder against Georgia Tech and a nailed 56 yarder in South Bend which was a huge kick that would have kicked dirt over our grave if he missed it down 10.

Lastly, SMU worries me. Really well executed RPO offenses are bad enough, but the way we've had total breakdowns in coverage from our safeties leaves me really concerned. We blew coverages against Jacksonville State and was bailed out by a call deemed incomplete that looked like a botched call, we had two clear busts against Ga Tech and a minimum of two against Notre Dame. SMU may well have a better receiving corps than what we've seen so far. I don't want a shootout, but I'm afraid that is what we might have Saturday.
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Week 6 ACC PIC UM....for bragging rlghts....still time to get pics in folks!

CardX
Mayoman said:
BC @ UVA - Eagles roost over Cavs and continue winning ways
Mia @ Cal - Closer than one might think but Canes cane the Bears by double digits
CU @ FSU - Noles are desperate but Tigers prevail with 4th Qtr route
Duk @ GT - Toss up game maybe but Tech wrecks the Pukies unbeaten streak
*SMU @ Cards - Tiebreaker game - this is one the Cards have to have and will tame the Mustangs in a shootout
Pitt @ UNC - Will the real UNC show up to battle the Panthers?...uh nope, they have no D to speak of
WF @ NCSt - Pack is back and whoop the Deacs at home by alot
VT @ Stfd - My mild upset pic of the week as the Cardinal hook the Hokies
Cuse @ UNLV - The Orange could lose this game in an upset as the Rebels have alot to prove...will not happen though

Cards 38 - 34

Some interesting match ups this week. so good fortune to you and get to pic n
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I'll go with:

UVA
Miami
Clemson
Tech
Cards
Pitt
NCST
Va Tech
UNLV
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It wasn't the officiating folks, it was really bad game management

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NDAFArly said:
LOL
ND got a lead because of TO’s?
UL scored 17 of their 24 points on TO’s, totaling a whopping 36 yards & one 1st Down, for those 17 points. If not for that, UL gets blown out.
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I would say even the most generous account of the turnover margin was Louisville forced two turnovers deep in Notre Dame territory and the Irish were gifted two of their three.

I didn't bother quoting the rest of your post because yours wholly ignores what attrition due to injury and forcing hurt players into playing Louisville had defensively overwhelmingly in the secondary, missing it's starting RB, playing a productive slot receiver with a broken collarbone suffered five weeks ago, et al. That's football. Win or lose with who is on the field.

....and as for playing thin at CB which is the fate ND is going to have to endure the rest of the year with the loss of Jaden Mickey you conveniently left off the remaining healthy CB--Clark--should have enjoyed the 2nd half from what warmth was provided by the Notre Dame locker room. I don't care if Chris Bell showed him nudes of his Mother, that Zinadine Zidane impersonation was worsened by the fact play was dead.
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It wasn't the officiating folks, it was really bad game management

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AnotherCFD said:
We out gained them badly for having such a talent deficiency. Louisville is the better team imo but hard to overcome unforced turnovers and timely missed calls.
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How about ND’s turnovers?

UL scored 17 of 24 points on an opening kickoff fumble, a fumble at the 6 & a midfield TO.
UL scored 7 points without those, which combined covered about 36 yards.
ND scored 14 off TO’s.

Without the TO mayhem, ND wins 17-7.
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It wasn't the officiating folks, it was really bad game management

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TheRealVille said:
Well, I don't agree with the ND talent edge. I didn't see it in this game at all, even on the lines. Now if one uses recruiting rankings for talent, then yes ND has that advantage.

In this game, the Cards dominated the box score. Had more yards, better QB play and even better receiver play. The defense was faster than ND's and I believe made better adjustments than ND.

Louisville lost this game in the first half with the turnovers and allowed the Irish to play from ahead instead of behind. I believe many Cards fans are starting to question Jeff calling the plays while being the head coach. He is glued to the play cards on offense and is making some rash decisions with the plays he calls.

This game was for the taking by Louisville, who I believe is a much better team. Unfortunately, for the Cards sake, losing as the better team is a staple of college football. Remember the Pitt lost last year?

I made my game by game predictions for this season back in August and I had Louisville losing this game to ND mostly because of exactly what happened with the refs and the breaks. I still believe the Cards can run the table or finish at 10 and 2. The return of Lacy gives the Cards two dynamic receivers and they have a great QB who can get them the ball.

This loss sucks because we're better than ND but it doesn't derail the Cards playoff chances. A ND loss would have and that just couldn't be allowed unless the Cards played a mistake free game.
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LOL
ND got a lead because of TO’s?
UL scored 17 of their 24 points on TO’s, totaling a whopping 36 yards & one 1st Down, for those 17 points. If not for that, UL gets blown out.

And UL’s defense wasn’t faster than ND’s.
Also, and this is real, you can go back & pause the game and look for yourself…
ND lost both DE’s & was playing 2 True Freshmen DEs.
ND lost starting LBs and was playing a True Freshman & RS Freshman.
ND lost 2 of top 3 CBs during the week, then the 3rd during the game. Had a true Freshman & backup Safety playing CB most the game.

During your pause, in the 2nd half you will see the following defense on the field the majority of the time.

DE Young (True Freshman)
DE Thomas (True Freshman)
DT Onye (RSSoph)
DT Hinish (Soph)
LB KVA (True Freshman)
LB Bowen (RS Freshman)
CB Moore (True Freshman)
CB Heard (3rd Safety)
S Shuler (RSFresh)
S Watts (The only returning starter)

And that doesn’t even mention ND played the 2nd half with 4 backups on the OL.

So get out of here with the faster, more talented team.
ND beat UL with their 2nd string. That’s more talent.
And ND led for 58 minutes.
If ND doesn’t fumble opening Kickoff & ball T own 6, then what?
And once ND was up double-digits, which they were half the game, they shut it down.
They already admitted so. They said with all the injuries & youth guys playing, with two score leads, they were just milking the game.
That’s your stats disparity. Which stats mean poop when you are losing by double-digits.
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LOUISVILLE VS NOTRE DAME GAME THREAD

nccardfan
NDAFArly said:
A few facts:

ND led 52 minutes.
ND led by double-digits half the game.
UL scored 17 of 24 points on; ND fumbling opening kickoff, ND fumbling at own 7, ND turning it over at midfield.
UL scored 17 points by going a combined 36 yards & one 1st Down.
ND played the second half without their two starting DE’s, so playing 2 true freshmen.
Without top LBs, so a true freshman & a RSFreshman.
Without top 2 of 3 CBs the entire game & all top 3 for half the game, so a true freshman & backup at Safety at the 2 Cornerback spots.
Four, yes I said four, starting OL out.
And the 4th string RB getting half the carries.
And ND had “game control” for over 85% of the game.

ND’s literal 2nd string led for 52 minutes & controlled the game for 85% of the time, & won.

See. Both sides can do it.
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The poster does bring out some key points that are not obvious. Teams like ND, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St, (well you know where I'm going) have more talent depth wise. These teams can afford to lose starters here and there because of their depth. When U of L loses an OL, safety, RB, WR, DT it becomes pretty evident that we have to do more to overcome those losses. Hopefully Brohm will change that by winning these games.
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4 Auto Bids For SEC and Big 10?

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Mayoman said:
Simply stated: "Hell to the NO". Earn it on the field by being a champ not an also ran. Only the two teams that earn the right to make it to the league playoffs should get automatic bids...none of this guaranteed stuff for the others.

Maybe they should not have been so greedy in their espansion grabs. The rest of the others not in the SEC/BIG should lawyer up and sue for to break up the unfair monapoly rights being acclaimed.
This BS and will ruin college FB even more than it already is. I despise it all.
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Greed usually does destroy
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