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Welcome .....the new SEC west

I was in school when Ok-Neb and Ok-Tx was must see FB. (1970’s)

OU claimed the 73 title and won it in 74 and 75. This was when the had players like Billy Sims and the Selman brothers.

Nebraska was ALWAYS in the hunt from 1970-2001 winning the NC in 70, 71, 94, 95 and 97

Texas had their name in the hat most years making the above list games “must see”.

I remember watching USC and John McKay “integrate” the sec in 1970, helping it become what it is today.

A lot of change and ups and downs for a lot of teams over the years. The sec hasn’t always been top dog. Up until the early 2000’s, when bowl games really meant something to players, the sec only had a 54% winning percentage. Hardly dominating. (In fairness the acc was 48%)

But through it all, over all these years, the one constant, the one never changing fact of football, the one thing you could count on, regardless what conference was “tops”
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uk has sucked 98% of the time. 👍🤷🏻‍♂️🏈
A lot of memories in there. And I can add a few more.

First off, I would like to address national media bias (or laziness). Many fans worry about who is ranked where in the pre-season polls. They are totally meaningless and largely consist of the same 5or 6 teams ranked in the top ten every year - Ohio State, Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas, USC and the most recent flavor of the day - regardless of losses to graduation or up and coming teams in their respective conferences. They were familiar names and those polled took the easy way out. I can't tell you how many times I've seen Michigan being a pre-season Top 10 team, only to struggle to be ranked by years' end.

Switzer's OU teams of the 70's were something to see. If you could. His best teams were when they were on probation and not on TV. Texas was a big deal until he turned the Wishbone loose on them. They had no answer for Joe Washington, Greg Pruiit, Billy Sims and the like.

The Thanksgiving Day game vs. Nebraska in 1970 or 71 remains one of the best games that I have ever seen. Period.

I remember Bear Bryant inviting John McKay and the Trojans to an early season game knowing full well the outcome in advance. Sam Cunningham and crew did the same thing to Bama that they had done to OSU in the previous year's Rose Bowl. That game did more to integrate the SEC than any other reason. The Bear now had cover to recruit black athletes, though it would be a few years b4 he could recruit a black QB.

The college scoreboard show had a distinct East Coast bias. Ivy League, ND, Syracuse and the Big Ten dominated the coverage. You had to break out the AM radio and tune into Tele-Score 84 to get info on SEC or Big 8 games. Is Sid Jenkins still around?

Somehow, I think this bias morphed its way into the SEC! SEC! SEC! chant. The national perception was they were hayseed states that still practiced Jim Crow. So what if they play good football? I think it played a part in both polls not awarding top ranking to an undefeated Bama team in 1966, despite Notre Dame having a tie with MSU on their record. There was no way the pollsters were going to give Bama the NC three years in a row with George Wallace standing in the schoolhouse door.

Someone mentioned their weariness over Michigan/OSU in the Big Ten. When you grow up in Northern KY and work in the state of Ohio, you get tired of hearing the media and co-workers run down your hayseed state. So much so that you look to their biggest nemesis. It helped immensely when Michigan hired the coach from my short-lived college day! Bye, bye State, I'm now a Michigan fan now. And have been except for the RichRod era. Go Blue!

My experience with UK football began in 1965 or so when they beat top-ranked Ole Miss. They followed it up the next week by beating the new #1 Auburn. It's been downhill ever since! The Curci years were interesting, but they went on probation for those excesses. I finally gave up on them when they hired Claiborne i/o The Pipe. They now head up the Enemies List. Go Cards!

A bit of a ramble, but please indulge an old man.

Different Guys Stepping Up

I was going to say in the last three games alone.

While it's a different hero every night, I swear Chucky Hepburn might be the single most critical part to our success as a team since Dejuan Wheat's senior year. He didn't score last night, but he still gave Clemson fits at both ends of the court.
turns out maybe Coach knows how to recruit players for his system. kinda feels like this is not coincidence. that maybe he sees these kids as slightly polished but still a little rough gems that with some soothing and shaping turns them all into diamonds. versatile, defense first type of guys who are now given free reign to shoot and score, but only when you're the open guy. now they are all learning to trust each other instead of one guy having to do it every night. it's getting exciting and while we're gonna hit a bump or two, i think top four acc is realistic

Welcome .....the new SEC west

I am kind of with Cycle on this one.
My point as a UK or Louisville fan who cares if the SEC/ACC has had more championships. I don’t care how strong the ACC is or isn’t my only concern is can Louisville win the ACC. The SEC has historically sucked in basketball does that diminish what UK have done in basketball? No, they had great teams when they won it all.

The conference talk is only used to prop up or tear down a team. The only reason you care is because you need to try explain why UK is good or bad. The truth is you don’t need it to prove either. They suck in football and are a blue blood in basketball.

Texas depends how you define dominate but I agree there are too many elite programs with NIL capital for any team to dominate like Alabama and Georgia have done the last 10 years. However they will be at the top of the league from now on.
I am kind of with Cycle on this one. Not sure when all this talk about conferences began, maybe when the SEC teams started dominating the college football championship or when the discussion began about having a college football playoff, but I have always had favorite "teams" and not favorite "conferences." Outside of Louisville, my favorite team growing up was the Sooners and I hated Nebraska and Texas. Billy Sims, Marcus Dupree, Greg Pruitt, Selmon brothers, the Boz.... I dislike Duke and North Carolina as much as I do Ohio St and Michigan. Out of the Big 10, I liked Purdue, mostly because of basketball. While I dislike Alabama, Florida and LSU, I like watching Georgia. I liked UCLA over USC. And as Cycle pointed out, other conferences don't really mean anything to me if Louisville doesn't win its own conference. If U of L is not playing for an ACC championship, bowl game or NC, I couldn't really less what conference wins. Sure I have my preferences.

Welcome .....the new SEC west

I wasn't making the argument that the SEC is the best football conference in college football. I was just saying that Texas nor any other football program is going to walk into that conference and dominate. And you say that it's just Alabama & Georgia that's been winning the championships. During this 18 year run, Auburn, Florida & LSU have also won national championships with Florida & LSU winning 2 each.
My point as a UK or Louisville fan who cares if the SEC/ACC has had more championships. I don’t care how strong the ACC is or isn’t my only concern is can Louisville win the ACC. The SEC has historically sucked in basketball does that diminish what UK have done in basketball? No, they had great teams when they won it all.

The conference talk is only used to prop up or tear down a team. The only reason you care is because you need to try explain why UK is good or bad. The truth is you don’t need it to prove either. They suck in football and are a blue blood in basketball.

Texas depends how you define dominate but I agree there are too many elite programs with NIL capital for any team to dominate like Alabama and Georgia have done the last 10 years. However they will be at the top of the league from now on.

Welcome .....the new SEC west

I was in school when Ok-Neb and Ok-Tx was must see FB. (1970’s)

OU claimed the 73 title and won it in 74 and 75. This was when the had players like Billy Sims and the Selman brothers.

Nebraska was ALWAYS in the hunt from 1970-2001 winning the NC in 70, 71, 94, 95 and 97

Texas had their name in the hat most years making the above list games “must see”.

I remember watching USC and John McKay “integrate” the sec in 1970, helping it become what it is today.

A lot of change and ups and downs for a lot of teams over the years. The sec hasn’t always been top dog. Up until the early 2000’s, when bowl games really meant something to players, the sec only had a 54% winning percentage. Hardly dominating. (In fairness the acc was 48%)

But through it all, over all these years, the one constant, the one never changing fact of football, the one thing you could count on, regardless what conference was “tops”
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.
.
.
.
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.
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uk has sucked 98% of the time. 👍🤷🏻‍♂️🏈

CPK Post Clemson PC

. I am not sure why they will not drop prices for the upper levels seats.
The price issue is SQUARELY on the University. Most of the upper not even online for sale, yet "face value" on TM is still $70+ for crowds of only 12,000. They'd rather not pay additional help to cover additional fans that attend at lower ticket prices. It's all $$$ today, not hardly a thought of longterm program growth.
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CPK Post Clemson PC

The issue is not whether the team is good enough to generate fans wanting to get back to going to basketball games. It is greediness of the fans who have season tickets that want to take advantage of the uptick in the program. Even before Covid, I could usually find a lower level court seat in the neighborhood of S25 - 45. Now even against teams outside of the Duke's, UNC's, people are asking $75 and up for a seat. Sorry, I'll just watch on TV instead of $150 for 2 tickets against BC or VT.
Agreed. The university really needs to reduce prices for the upper levels. Been saying this for several years. Get butts in seats at a cheaper costs. Build the fanbase back up. More fans, more excitement and more concessions. It is a win-win. I am not sure why they will not drop prices for the upper levels seats.
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