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Thecycle27 said:
The biggest problem is the rankings and spreads have a heavy reliance on perceived talent. That is how power rankings are determined. It is a really good indicator for odds makers and gamblers. However week to week there are upsets. Alabama losses to Vandy they don’t drop because Alabama is still very talented. Name any non brand team that isn’t as talented losses they rocket out of the rankings. They aren’t talented. Any loss can be explained away. They are still talented.

It is a very good indicator on who will ultimately play in the title game. However it isn’t perfect, you wouldn’t have Ole Miss losing to UK and Florida.

I been saying it for years it is a rigged system. Teams with higher ranked players will always be ranked higher. Then when those teams get beat by a Vandy or UK then those teams get bumped up. There is a reason they have never had a playoff.

They need to go to a NFL model. All the Power 4 teams get AQ.
AFC North-Big Ten
AFC South-SEC
NFC East-ACC
NFC West-Big 12

The AQ spots are determined by a tie breaking system. Use the ranking system that is used at the lower levels to seed the field. It is too easy. It gets complicated because of the SEC, Big Ten and TV. They have to have more representation.
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I agree about 95%. I want to get rid of any vestige of opinions and use objective criteria. I think the system at lower levels still uses a dumb committee. I’ve always believed in tie-breakers. If you have truly objective criteria, TV gets what it gets and no conference has an advantage it hasn’t earned on the field.
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ESPN isn’t hiding their bias and that what ticks people off. They are actively rigging the system. For them to destroy IU while giving Tennessee a pass is why people are pissed.

The SOS did take everything into consideration including the losses. That is why Miami was behind Alabama. Here is the problem. Name any SEC team they will have more talent than 90 percent of the P4 teams. That doesn’t mean they are a good team. That leads is to the hypothetical game or gambling aspect yes Alabama would probably beat IU. IU probably wouldn’t win 10 games. If Alabama is right they beat IU or even OSU. That is ESPN talking heads position. The season though tells another story. What if Alabama or Ole Miss play like they did against UK and Vandy? Do you think IU or OSU would get them, yep. They play like that OSU would boat race them too.

The season has to matter or it is all pointless. My guess is the playoff will produce terrific final 4 and a great championship game. It will be brand names. It will probably include an SEC team. ESPN and the SEC would be wise to cover the sport objectively not strictly through their lense.
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IU-Notre Dame

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Thecycle27 said:
I not 100% sure Louisville beats IU and if Louisville lost to IU not sure that helps IU.

The reason they were in the playoffs is because lost 1 game in a Power 4 conference. Do we really want to keep teams out of the playoff that has 1 loss over a 3 loss team? Any Louisville fan that raises their hand is crazy. Louisville was 1 year away from getting left out with 2 losses because of their perceived SOS.

They want to make this a TV show that is completely scripted. It is sports shit happens and that is why we love it. If Vandy beating Alabama doesn’t matter then let’s just let the most 5-8 most talented teams play in the playoff.
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We all accept that there's human beings that are picking these playoff teams. They have a stated criteria and it's not going to be perfect.

But the most important metric should be how a team fared overall against other teams vying for a playoff spot. How many losses is important but so is who have you beaten?

Indiana had a outlier season with only a handful of bowl eligible opponents and only one team that was ranked. All a person has to do is ask the question, would Alabama, Ole Miss, or Miami finish 11 and 1 against IU's schedule? Would IU lose just the one game with Alabama's schedule?

I think that's an easy question to answer and why many people don't care about IU having just one loss. But, it doesn't look good if the Big programs look like they're getting differential treatment so IU gets the nod.

But then there's people who think bad loses are worse than no big wins. Everyone has an opinion like Notre Dame, who had a not so strong schedule and wouldn't be in the playoff if they weren't who they are.

This is what we get with the expanded playoffs.
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nccardfan said:
Hmmm... and yet only 8 schools have won more than 3 NC's in basketball. It just seems like everyone but U of L is winning championships. While playing in the Big East Conference from 2005 through 2013, the Cardinals captured 17 regular season Big East titles and 33 Big East Tournament titles totaling 50 Big East Championships across all sports. In 2016, Lamar Jackson won the school its first Heisman Trophy.

Since 2000 Louisville is the only NCAA team to win a BCS bowl game; to appear in the NCAA Division I men's basketball Final Four, the College World Series, and the NCAA Division I women's basketball Final Four; and to finish as runner-up in the Men's soccer College Cup. It is one of only six schools that has appeared more than once in each of the following events—a BCS bowl game, the men's and women's basketball Final Fours, and the College World Series—and Louisville's span of seven school years (2006–07 to 2012–13) is the shortest among other schools.

Also, it is the first school ever to win a BCS bowl game, appear in the men's and women's basketball Final Fours, and appear in the College World Series in the same school year, doing so in 2012–13.

I'm sure other schools would be glad to have the success we have had...
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I acknowledged the Universities sports success, it's only the lack of the main prize that I'm lamenting. Now if I wanted to start a thread about how successful at sports the University of Louisville has had with several different programs, I would have had a post like yours.

I could say, look how much Louisville has been better than Purdue or Wake Forest or Iowa State or West Virginia or ......

Most people remember who's the champion, not the runner up.
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