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I think we're better than both.
Not sure who's calling the plays for IU. Playing to not lose.
I think we're better than both.
Not sure who's calling the plays for IU. Playing to not lose.
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ND controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. IU getting exposed.
Oh, for a couple of plays here and there!
IU showing exactly why they aren't a playoff team. I understand how they ended up making the 12 team playoff, but several three loss teams are better than the Hoosiers, including a 4 loss Louisville.
I think we're going to see similar teams in the playoff in the years to come, and maybe one of those times a team like that will make the final game.
It wasn't going to be Indiana. And ND best celebrate tonight because they will not beat Georgia, a team with their backup QB starting. The Irish will not be dominating the lines against the Dogs.
I think we're going to see similar teams in the playoff in the years to come, and maybe one of those times a team like that will make the final game.
It wasn't going to be Indiana. And ND best celebrate tonight because they will not beat Georgia, a team with their backup QB starting. The Irish will not be dominating the lines against the Dogs.
The line will be around even. It will be a good game.
The playoff is about 2 things, money and giving more teams access. It was never really needed to determine the 2 best teams. At the beginning of the year most thought it would be UGA, Ohio State, Texas and Oregon. Probably going to end up with 2 of these 4.
I don’t think the playoff changes brands winning the title. They just have more talent and money. It is really interesting watch the portal moves. The majority of the SEC transfer move inside the conference. You rarely see a starter transfer outside the SEC. You only see kids that didn’t play much transfer outside the SEC. They recycle talent. Every team has dudes.
I thought more SEC talent would cycle out to ACC or Big 12 but so far that talent is staying in the SEC. Brooks was exactly what I thought would happen. A really talent kid leaves Alabama comes to Louisville does great. It makes sense weaker defenses more production. Instead what you see is the kids go to another SEC school end up with OK results but they make bank.
UGA is very good with either starting QB, and I will concede that Bulldogs are clearly the favorite. However, Riley Leonard has the skill set to lead a ND upset. We have yet to see the vision and elusive running that he has exhibited during his career, and any chance of a ND win will require that sort of performance from Leonard.
This will be the first time I will be pulling for the Irish to win a sporting event.
This will be the first time I will be pulling for the Irish to win a sporting event.
Looked to me the coach of the year was more concerned about not losing big instead of taking risks to win.
He should have played with more risk on offense instead of matching ND with sustained drives, especially after that 98 yard TD run by ND. IU needed the big plays to put the pressure on ND, but they went conservative and didn't want to lose the game in the 1st half.
Down 14 to 0, he should have went for it instead of kicking the FG as an example.
He should have played with more risk on offense instead of matching ND with sustained drives, especially after that 98 yard TD run by ND. IU needed the big plays to put the pressure on ND, but they went conservative and didn't want to lose the game in the 1st half.
Down 14 to 0, he should have went for it instead of kicking the FG as an example.
They (Indiana) deserved what they got last night and it couldn’t happen to a more deserving team. Oh btw, if Cig is going to talk like he did, absolutely don’t do it before the game because it could come back and bite him in the butt and it did and was deserved.
I don’t like Notre Dame, but at least they didn’t cancel the game with us.
I don’t like Notre Dame, but at least they didn’t cancel the game with us.
IU coach thinks very highly of himself IMO.
Cocky to a fault.
When his guys are gone he’ll get an awakening that started last night
Cocky to a fault.
When his guys are gone he’ll get an awakening that started last night
He has an edge to him that says he has a chip on his shoulder about something. Perhaps he reminds me of my younger self. And that is not good in the long run.
No matter what he acomplishes in the future, he will always be remembered around here as the guy who chickened out of a game with the Cards.
That was a rancid game. Good Lord!!
IU Coach needn't worry too much about a major upgrade. Man he needed an injection of testosterone.
IU Coach needn't worry too much about a major upgrade. Man he needed an injection of testosterone.
Jennings pic sixes look so bad it makes you wonder if he did it on purpose? I mean is he blind, especially on that second one?
How I wish Louisville's opponents would throw the ball right to us for two easy touchdowns.
How I wish Louisville's opponents would throw the ball right to us for two easy touchdowns.
Two refs staring right at the play and neither said the runner is down and no fumble. SMU had no chance in this game.
LOL. Yes, IU did not belong. BUT, they were in because ND needed a patsy to beat. That is the reason IU was in. ND has ZERO business being in the playoff. ND has not been relevant since they threw Lou under the bus. The best part is going to be when ND gets humiliated by GA. THE most overrated program in college sports.
What could go wrong; the Committee sending team from Dallas TX to play its biggest game in decades, on a freezing-cold field, inside a sold out PSU stadium?
I am not trying to make excuses for Jennings or SMU, nor do I want to distract from PSU’s performance ……… however, anyone who watched SMU, and specifically Jennings this season could see they were not prepared for either the temperature or the deafening crowd noise. Jennings’ performance was so uncharacteristic of his season’s success, that neither his coaches, teammates or fans could explain his complete meltdown. Those two pick 6 interceptions were as much about poor judgement as it was about poor execution; they were so bad it looked as intentional.
I am not trying to make excuses for Jennings or SMU, nor do I want to distract from PSU’s performance ……… however, anyone who watched SMU, and specifically Jennings this season could see they were not prepared for either the temperature or the deafening crowd noise. Jennings’ performance was so uncharacteristic of his season’s success, that neither his coaches, teammates or fans could explain his complete meltdown. Those two pick 6 interceptions were as much about poor judgement as it was about poor execution; they were so bad it looked as intentional.
I agree and that's why I had every home team in a cold environment in my parlay bets. (Still lost by one leg due to Clemson)
SMU and Tennessee both had no chance in sub 20 degree temps and especially Jennings with SMU. He looked like he was in sand on the field and his early throws had no zip.
Maybe now southern schools will play some games up north in November if possible. These northern schools have a huge advantage in the first round of the new playoff format.
Texas by the way looked very good as they looked like Louisville running the ball against Clemson.
SMU and Tennessee both had no chance in sub 20 degree temps and especially Jennings with SMU. He looked like he was in sand on the field and his early throws had no zip.
Maybe now southern schools will play some games up north in November if possible. These northern schools have a huge advantage in the first round of the new playoff format.
Texas by the way looked very good as they looked like Louisville running the ball against Clemson.
IMO, since the bracket pairings gave conference champions Boise St and Arizona St byes in the CFP, it set up too much home field advantages in the first round. To be fair, games should have been played in domes or neutral sites.
I wouldn't bet my house on that, especially with the Georgia QB not playing..
For all those bashing IU, those people’s arguments are the same they’ll use to keep us out. IU actually played OSU better than the mighty SEC school Tennessee. So if IU didn’t deserve to be there neither did Tennessee. Teams play what’s in front of them and that’s all they can do. SOS is hard to judge. Period
It was not hard to judge IU's schedule. They had a bit of bad luck that a few Big 10 teams had off years on the schedule, but the fact is IU was not worthy of being a playoff team. The won loss record looks worthy, but not the schedule.
Also, the Hoosiers didn't play better against OSU. They didn't even break 200 yards of offense, from a team that won all those games due to great offense. Tennessee played OSU in the coldest environment in their history and had no chance.
Now as for Louisville, something like that could happen if their ACC schedule was loaded with average teams. It could happen to almost every team that's not a perennial top dog program. Of course I wouldn't like it as a Cards fan, but it would unfortunately be the reality of it.
If you play just one top level team and get dominated, all the other easy wins against unranked or average teams shouldn't get you in the playoff.
No opinions, just objective criteria, should determine playoff participation.
I agree about those critical of IU, those kids played the schedule they were given, albeit a weak regular season.
As stated by Realville, UL football has been the recipient of the same criticism every time our name was being mentioned as a candidate for NC consideration.
As stated by Realville, UL football has been the recipient of the same criticism every time our name was being mentioned as a candidate for NC consideration.
The biggest problem is the rankings and spreads have a heavy reliance on perceived talent. That is how power rankings are determined. It is a really good indicator for odds makers and gamblers. However week to week there are upsets. Alabama losses to Vandy they don’t drop because Alabama is still very talented. Name any non brand team that isn’t as talented losses they rocket out of the rankings. They aren’t talented. Any loss can be explained away. They are still talented.
It is a very good indicator on who will ultimately play in the title game. However it isn’t perfect, you wouldn’t have Ole Miss losing to UK and Florida.
I been saying it for years it is a rigged system. Teams with higher ranked players will always be ranked higher. Then when those teams get beat by a Vandy or UK then those teams get bumped up. There is a reason they have never had a playoff.
They need to go to a NFL model. All the Power 4 teams get AQ.
AFC North-Big Ten
AFC South-SEC
NFC East-ACC
NFC West-Big 12
The AQ spots are determined by a tie breaking system. Use the ranking system that is used at the lower levels to seed the field. It is too easy. It gets complicated because of the SEC, Big Ten and TV. They have to have more representation.
It is a very good indicator on who will ultimately play in the title game. However it isn’t perfect, you wouldn’t have Ole Miss losing to UK and Florida.
I been saying it for years it is a rigged system. Teams with higher ranked players will always be ranked higher. Then when those teams get beat by a Vandy or UK then those teams get bumped up. There is a reason they have never had a playoff.
They need to go to a NFL model. All the Power 4 teams get AQ.
AFC North-Big Ten
AFC South-SEC
NFC East-ACC
NFC West-Big 12
The AQ spots are determined by a tie breaking system. Use the ranking system that is used at the lower levels to seed the field. It is too easy. It gets complicated because of the SEC, Big Ten and TV. They have to have more representation.
Cignetti wasn't the coach when they canceled. It was the previous coach. They canceled even before they had to play us last year. They tried to get out of that one too.
I not 100% sure Louisville beats IU and if Louisville lost to IU not sure that helps IU.
The reason they were in the playoffs is because lost 1 game in a Power 4 conference. Do we really want to keep teams out of the playoff that has 1 loss over a 3 loss team? Any Louisville fan that raises their hand is crazy. Louisville was 1 year away from getting left out with 2 losses because of their perceived SOS.
They want to make this a TV show that is completely scripted. It is sports shit happens and that is why we love it. If Vandy beating Alabama doesn’t matter then let’s just let the most 5-8 most talented teams play in the playoff.
We all accept that there's human beings that are picking these playoff teams. They have a stated criteria and it's not going to be perfect.
But the most important metric should be how a team fared overall against other teams vying for a playoff spot. How many losses is important but so is who have you beaten?
Indiana had a outlier season with only a handful of bowl eligible opponents and only one team that was ranked. All a person has to do is ask the question, would Alabama, Ole Miss, or Miami finish 11 and 1 against IU's schedule? Would IU lose just the one game with Alabama's schedule?
I think that's an easy question to answer and why many people don't care about IU having just one loss. But, it doesn't look good if the Big programs look like they're getting differential treatment so IU gets the nod.
But then there's people who think bad loses are worse than no big wins. Everyone has an opinion like Notre Dame, who had a not so strong schedule and wouldn't be in the playoff if they weren't who they are.
This is what we get with the expanded playoffs.
ESPN isn’t hiding their bias and that what ticks people off. They are actively rigging the system. For them to destroy IU while giving Tennessee a pass is why people are pissed.
The SOS did take everything into consideration including the losses. That is why Miami was behind Alabama. Here is the problem. Name any SEC team they will have more talent than 90 percent of the P4 teams. That doesn’t mean they are a good team. That leads is to the hypothetical game or gambling aspect yes Alabama would probably beat IU. IU probably wouldn’t win 10 games. If Alabama is right they beat IU or even OSU. That is ESPN talking heads position. The season though tells another story. What if Alabama or Ole Miss play like they did against UK and Vandy? Do you think IU or OSU would get them, yep. They play like that OSU would boat race them too.
The season has to matter or it is all pointless. My guess is the playoff will produce terrific final 4 and a great championship game. It will be brand names. It will probably include an SEC team. ESPN and the SEC would be wise to cover the sport objectively not strictly through their lense.
The SOS did take everything into consideration including the losses. That is why Miami was behind Alabama. Here is the problem. Name any SEC team they will have more talent than 90 percent of the P4 teams. That doesn’t mean they are a good team. That leads is to the hypothetical game or gambling aspect yes Alabama would probably beat IU. IU probably wouldn’t win 10 games. If Alabama is right they beat IU or even OSU. That is ESPN talking heads position. The season though tells another story. What if Alabama or Ole Miss play like they did against UK and Vandy? Do you think IU or OSU would get them, yep. They play like that OSU would boat race them too.
The season has to matter or it is all pointless. My guess is the playoff will produce terrific final 4 and a great championship game. It will be brand names. It will probably include an SEC team. ESPN and the SEC would be wise to cover the sport objectively not strictly through their lense.
I agree about 95%. I want to get rid of any vestige of opinions and use objective criteria. I think the system at lower levels still uses a dumb committee. I’ve always believed in tie-breakers. If you have truly objective criteria, TV gets what it gets and no conference has an advantage it hasn’t earned on the field.
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