I mean I could see 8-4 but also I could see 4-8.
I don't feel like we have a high ceiling, but I think our floor has been raised quite a bit. We won't be the worst defense in the nation, but at the same time I don't see us as an elite defense that can shut teams down. We are going to take a big step back on offense, but I think we'll be ok.
A lot of it comes down to the rest of our conference. Just say FSU makes a huge jump in year 2 of Norvell, BC makes a big stride with their new coach, NC State gets a lot better, Wake is decent, and Duke has one of those random good years like usual, it makes it harder.
But, you could also see some of those programs taking steps back too. I think we're in the same boat as those other ACC schools. Average at every position, so we could be good or bad depending on circumstances.