Jeff Walz to remain at Louisville

[fredburgcard]

What about the $11 trillion in debt that was added under the previous administration? In fact the current deficit is due in large part to the $200 million in interest we are now paying yearly to service that debt.

Again not true. The national debt increased by almost 8 trillion, not 11, during the Obama administration. Trump's own figures show that if he is reelected next year he plans to increase the debt by over 9 trillion during his administration. The key difference between the two is that Obama was struggling to pull the economy out of the great recession. Trump is stimulating an economy which was already performing fairly well.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-by-president-by-dollar-and-percent-3306296

 

[BPGhost]

You do realize that unemployment during the Obama 8 years was the highest for African American men 20 - 50 years. Highest it had been in years. Unemployment right now is low in all sectors. Whether you like Trump or not the economy is hot.

You do realize that the economic crisis / recession was the worst since the Depression - don’t you? The resulting unemployment for all people was staggeringly high relative to the last 20-50 years. The economy rebounded and unemployment rates went down - all during Obama’s tenure. Trump has benefited from that upswing and can certainly take credit for not screwing it up.

That said, I’d like to pose a few sincere questions to all Trump supporters regarding his taking credit for the economy.

1. What specific actions has trump taken that could be credited for the current economy?

2. What specifically has he done that has had positive results, that would not have been taken had another of the republican candidates been elected?

 

[KozmasAgain]

Trump has done away with a lot of regulations that the Obama administration placed on businesses that caused them to move their corporate headquarters overseas. Trump lowered corporate taxes so that companies would hire more people. Trump has permitted more drilling rights for gas and oil that has created high paying jobs.
That is something that Obama and the democrats are passionate about restricting oil production. Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration which is causing Americans jobs and creating lower wages for middle class Americans. I know that Obama made an effort to do the same just not as hard.
The bad economy did start do to the banking crisis created by bad policies of the democrats. I ask Obama supporters all the time what was Obama's greatest achievement as President and the only thing they can come up with is the Affordable Care Act. Unfortunately the AFCA is collapsing under its own weight.

 

[teamcanada]

You do realize that the economic crisis / recession was the worst since the Depression - don’t you? The resulting unemployment for all people was staggeringly high relative to the last 20-50 years. The economy rebounded and unemployment rates went down - all during Obama’s tenure. Trump has benefited from that upswing and can certainly take credit for not screwing it up.

That said, I’d like to pose a few sincere questions to all Trump supporters regarding his taking credit for the economy.

1. What specific actions has trump taken that could be credited for the current economy?

2. What specifically has he done that has had positive results, that would not have been taken had another of the republican candidates been elected?

2 things that come to mind is the cutting of Federal red tape and also the Corporate tax cut, as well as, bringing NAFTA and the Chinese back to the table.
Maybe another Republican would have done the same thing but Trump is who we had to vote on and while I'm not a personal fan of his he's not Hilary so I held my nose and voted for him.

 

[KozmasAgain]

Nobody is lying when they say Obama gave Iran billions of dollars because he did. NOBODY said whose money it was or wasn't the fact is Obama released money to Iran that had been frozen since the 70's. It was frozen by multiple Presidents both democrats and republicans since Iran was a bad actor on the world stage.

 

[BPGhost]

Nobody is lying when they say Obama gave Iran billions of dollars because he did. NOBODY said whose money it was or wasn't the fact is Obama released money to Iran that had been frozen since the 70's. It was frozen by multiple Presidents both democrats and republicans since Iran was a bad actor on the world stage.

You can’t give something that already belongs to the recipient. It was released in exchange for concessions on their nuclear program.

 

[BPGhost]

Trump has done away with a lot of regulations that the Obama administration placed on businesses that caused them to move their corporate headquarters overseas. Trump lowered corporate taxes so that companies would hire more people. Trump has permitted more drilling rights for gas and oil that has created high paying jobs.
That is something that Obama and the democrats are passionate about restricting oil production. Trump is trying to stop illegal immigration which is causing Americans jobs and creating lower wages for middle class Americans. I know that Obama made an effort to do the same just not as hard.
The bad economy did start do to the banking crisis created by bad policies of the democrats. I ask Obama supporters all the time what was Obama's greatest achievement as President and the only thing they can come up with is the Affordable Care Act. Unfortunately the AFCA is collapsing under its own weight.

Thanks for your answer. I hear those talking points about trump doing away with Obama regulations frequently - which ones specifically have done what you suggest? Clearly we want American companies to stay here - particularly their operations which are way more important than their corporate headquarters. Seems like the trump tariffs have several companies shipping jobs back overseas of late. Just got my completed taxes back - and there were little to no savings for my business from the previous year despite the incredible tax cut. My CPA said that was due to my business not being “big enough” (we did 4.8M in sales last year) to have the really good parts of the tax cut kick in.

I can’t talk intelligently about the green new deal and perhaps it is an overreach but, why are we investing more and more money into finite energy sources - the usage of which, only exacerbate the climate problem?

As for the immigration issue, like many of trump’s talking points, it is simply a distraction. There is no doubt that fixes are needed and we should be able to control our borders however the notion that illegal immigrants are taking jobs that Americans want is simply foolish. It’s no wonder why economists - particularly conservative republican ones - indicate that trump’s plan on immigration would have a dramatically worse impact on the US economy than even doing nothing.

Obama isn’t POTUS anymore - so debating what he did or didn’t do really isn’t germane.

 

[BPGhost]

2 things that come to mind is the cutting of Federal red tape and also the Corporate tax cut, as well as, bringing NAFTA and the Chinese back to the table.
Maybe another Republican would have done the same thing but Trump is who we had to vote on and while I'm not a personal fan of his he's not Hilary so I held my nose and voted for him.

Doesn’t seem as if the Chinese are really back at the table in any sort of honest way. We are mired in a tariff war and they correctly know that all they need to do is play defense until they see the results of the 2020 election. They are simply waiting out Trump.

 

[KozmasAgain]

The new green deal BARF laughing out loud the dumb college graduate who doesn't know her ass from a whole in the ground. What I find funny about the democrats is they want to restrict American companies from drilling for oil or natural gas. They say it is because of the environment but at the same time they want us to import it from Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia.

Why does oil from their countries not pollute the environment only oil from the U.S. does. The more I read about Climate Change ( formerly known as global warming) it seems as if they are using climate change as a tool to redistribute money. Climate change has been around for 4.5 billion years and we have only been keeping records of earths temperature for 100 years.

 

[WhatMeWorry]

I am not repeating anyone's lie it is available for you to read. There is this new thing called google even you can do it just make sure you comprehend what you read.

Maybe you should try it out, instead of regurgitating right wing talking points.

The money in question was paid to the US for military equipment when it was an ally, prior to the Iranians taking Americans hostages in 1979. That money was frozen and held as part of sanctions imposed on Iran. Yes, the frozen funds were part of the nuclear deal, a deal, by the way, the Iranians are still complying with with Germany, France, England, Russia, And China. But in the end, it was Irans money, nothing came out of the US treasury, and it was repaid in foreign currencies, not dollars.

 

[WhatMeWorry]

The new green deal BARF laughing out loud the dumb college graduate who doesn't know her ass from a whole in the ground. What I find funny about the democrats is they want to restrict American companies from drilling for oil or natural gas. They say it is because of the environment but at the same time they want us to import it from Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia.

Why does oil from their countries not pollute the environment only oil from the U.S. does. The more I read about Climate Change ( formerly known as global warming) it seems as if they are using climate change as a tool to redistribute money. Climate change has been around for 4.5 billion years and we have only been keeping records of earths temperature for 100 years.

Wow! That's just too funny to respond to.

 

[KozmasAgain]

That's funny someone puts a comment that you don't agree with and you think it is based on talking points. If you would of read my earlier post you would have seen I posted that I said it was Iranian money that was frozen since the 70's. I also said that every President since the 70's democrats and republicans denied them the money. It that comment was not based on talking points.

 

[KozmasAgain]

WhatMeWorry, what's the matter can't you debate the comment or are you waiting for your talking points. How come democrats restrict oil and gas production when they are in control and they blame it on the environment. Then they import oil from Canada, Mexico and Saudi Arabia letting them make the profit. Is it redistribution of money or is it because their oil doesn't pollute the atmosphere?

 

[KozmasAgain]

BPGhost, you are seriously wrong when you say illegals aren't taking jobs Americans want. They are taking jobs Americans don't want for $5.00 an hour. I don't know what type of business you own maybe you benefit from cheap labor.
I own my own business and I have had to change what services I offer because cheap labor by illegals is to hard to compete against. They have ruined the tile industry and a lot of the construction related jobs.

 

[BPGhost]

The new green deal BARF laughing out loud the dumb college graduate who doesn't know her ass from a whole in the ground. What I find funny about the democrats is they want to restrict American companies from drilling for oil or natural gas. They say it is because of the environment but at the same time they want us to import it from Mexico, Canada and Saudi Arabia.

Why does oil from their countries not pollute the environment only oil from the U.S. does. The more I read about Climate Change ( formerly known as global warming) it seems as if they are using climate change as a tool to redistribute money. Climate change has been around for 4.5 billion years and we have only been keeping records of earths temperature for 100 years.

Ok - moving from the rhetoric - what do you know specifically about the green new deal that has you barfing? Focusing on the messenger rather than message is easy - particularly when the messenger is being scapegoated.

I’m pretty sure you wouldn’t be able to find any Democrat who says “let’s import oil” - the reason being, that the consumption of oil pollutes and harms the environment via climate change. Tell me more about your wealth distribution theory. 100 years or not, are you suggesting that climate change isn’t happening and being accelerated by burning fossil fuels?

 

[BPGhost]

BPGhost, you are seriously wrong when you say illegals aren't taking jobs Americans want. They are taking jobs Americans don't want for $5.00 an hour. I don't know what type of business you own maybe you benefit from cheap labor.
I own my own business and I have had to change what services I offer because cheap labor by illegals is to hard to compete against. They have ruined the tile industry and a lot of the construction related jobs.

Illegals haven’t ruined anything - they don’t hire themselves. My company doesn’t hire individuals that are illegal from any country because it is (wait for it) illegal.

That said - there are lots of businesses that started the practice of illegal hiring out of self preservation because they couldn’t find the help they needed.

That’s in stark contrast to trump who hires illegals in his businesses because they cost him less. And - he makes a lot of his shitty products overseas.

 

[KozmasAgain]

They hire illegals because they are cheap labor and those same companies can't find employees because they don't want to pay the going rate don't fool yourself. I own my own business and I don't have any problem finding quality workers because I pay by the job not by the hour. I agree with you that illegals don't hire themselves but that doesn't make it any better for Americans to compete against them.

There are tons of illegals in the construction business, landscaping, roofing etc., who are self employed. They don't pay taxes and they don't carry insurance and I know this first hand because I used to compete against them for construction jobs. We used to get paid $3.50 per sq. ft. for ceramic tile install and $7.50 per sq. ft. For marble install on commercial jobs.

The Mexicans are doing it for $1.25 per sf for ceramic and $3.00 per sf for marble. They have ruined that industry and by ruining that industry they have helped erode the tax base in that area. I guess that's IK with you though since you are arguing with talking points.

 

[KozmasAgain]

In regards to the new green deal it is not realistic because the cost is way to high. Cortez thinks she can solve problems just by raising taxes it is hard to believe she graduated from Boston University with a degree in economics. Every time she opens her mouth she shows how dumb she is. Remember when she said that the only reason unemployment was so low was because to many people were working 2 jobs?

In regards to climate change too many people are getting their information from talking points. Believe it or not there is plenty of information out there on the subject that comes from people other than politicians. I remember when they called it global warming but then "climate gate" back in 2007 blew that out of the water and they switched to climate change. Like I said earlier we have had climate change for 4.5 billion years now way before man.

We have had 5 ice ages and we will have more and I think it is funny when they show the glaciers melting and they say global warming. Earth in its normal stage has no ice so ice melting is normal. I am all for the environment but quit using the sky is falling scenario. Now the democrats say we only have 12 years left to do something or it will be to late.

I don't get my information from talking points I actually read a variety material that counterpoints to every argument including mine. If you want to read about the climate I suggest you read Weather: An Illustrated History. The reason I think it has more to do with moving money around is because there is no rhyme or reason to do the things they are doing.
I asked how come the democrats restrict oil and gas production when they are in charge but they import it from other countries? How does that help the environment, it doesn't but it does move money from us to them. If you would look past your talking points and look at other areas of so called environmental policies it is moving money out of the U.S. To other parts of the world.

 

[WhatMeWorry]

WhatMeWorry, what's the matter can't you debate the comment or are you waiting for your talking points. How come democrats restrict oil and gas production when they are in control and they blame it on the environment. Then they import oil from Canada, Mexico and Saudi Arabia letting them make the profit. Is it redistribution of money or is it because their oil doesn't pollute the atmosphere?

BP's doing a fine job already. He said what I would have.

 

[BPGhost]

They hire illegals because they are cheap labor and those same companies can't find employees because they don't want to pay the going rate don't fool yourself. I own my own business and I don't have any problem finding quality workers because I pay by the job not by the hour. I agree with you that illegals don't hire themselves but that doesn't make it any better for Americans to compete against them.

There are tons of illegals in the construction business, landscaping, roofing etc., who are self employed. They don't pay taxes and they don't carry insurance and I know this first hand because I used to compete against them for construction jobs. We used to get paid $3.50 per sq. ft. for ceramic tile install and $7.50 per sq. ft. For marble install on commercial jobs.

The Mexicans are doing it for $1.25 per sf for ceramic and $3.00 per sf for marble. They have ruined that industry and by ruining that industry they have helped erode the tax base in that area. I guess that's IK with you though since you are arguing with talking points.

Whatever those businesses’ or individual consumer’s reason(s) for hiring illegals - they do and, they are the ones that deserve your ire - right?

It’s a like trump scapegoating Mexico for the amount of drugs that make their way into America. If they’re weren’t so many drug consumers in the US - they’re wouldn’t be so many drugs.

 

[KozmasAgain]

Unfortunately high school kids aren't the smartest at a young age and drugs and alcohol are tempting when you think you will live forever. The problem is the Mexicans are selling pAckets of heroine for the price if a six pack of beer. This gets them hooked and they begin a life of drugs. The Chinese are loading our country up with enough fentanly to kill 57 Americans at this point and they still trying to up that.

It's a shame that people don't see that this is a problem that could cripple us in the future. Instead they are focused on the problems of people from other countries. We don't want to become Russia who is in a major population decline right now. Their population is at 140 million and is declining rapidly.

If things don't change by 2025 their population will dip under 100 million. Along with a declining population they will have a declining economy and then they become past history. Their problem is caused by more than the breakup of the Soviet Union. They have a large drug culture, alcohol problem, high rate of aids and tuberculosis. Because of their drug and alcohol problem they say that 70% of the children born in Russia today will never be productive members of society.

Is this what we want for our country? I hear many complain about leaving our kids with a burdensome national debt. I worry more about the drugs pouring over our southern border.

 

[buc puppet]

This is all Jeff walz fault.

 

[BPGhost]

Unfortunately high school kids aren't the smartest at a young age and drugs and alcohol are tempting when you think you will live forever. The problem is the Mexicans are selling pAckets of heroine for the price if a six pack of beer. This gets them hooked and they begin a life of drugs. The Chinese are loading our country up with enough fentanly to kill 57 Americans at this point and they still trying to up that.

It's a shame that people don't see that this is a problem that could cripple us in the future. Instead they are focused on the problems of people from other countries. We don't want to become Russia who is in a major population decline right now. Their population is at 140 million and is declining rapidly.

If things don't change by 2025 their population will dip under 100 million. Along with a declining population they will have a declining economy and then they become past history. Their problem is caused by more than the breakup of the Soviet Union. They have a large drug culture, alcohol problem, high rate of aids and tuberculosis. Because of their drug and alcohol problem they say that 70% of the children born in Russia today will never be productive members of society.

Is this what we want for our country? I hear many complain about leaving our kids with a burdensome national debt. I worry more about the drugs pouring over our southern border.

I get that it’s easier (which is why trump does it) to say all of our problems are the result of someone else’s actions but at some point I think we have to start pointing the finger in the right direction rather than scapegoating others.

I appreciate the conversation - not sure we’re getting anywhere at this point so, I’m gonna sign off. Good luck to you and your business!

 

[KozmasAgain]

Same to you I just wish both sides of the aisle would get together and do what is best for our future and our children's future. I enjoyed the back and forth I actually think it is Good to debate both points of view without violence.
Sorry the thread turned to politics because Coach Walz is important to the future of our program. I am so glad he is still with us and I hope it last a long time. I really enjoy the women's game it has come a long way and I think will continue to get better.

If I was CW I would make the girls do jumping drills. I don't know why but the women don't really jump for rebounds or blocked shots. I mean women from all teams don't really jump. If they worked with Shook and made her jump at 6'5" she could dunk the ball imagine how that would change the game.

 

[WhatMeWorry]

Same to you I just wish both sides of the aisle would get together and do what is best for our future and our children's future. I enjoyed the back and forth I actually think it is Good to debate both points of view without violence.
Sorry the thread turned to politics because Coach Walz is important to the future of our program. I am so glad he is still with us and I hope it last a long time. I really enjoy the women's game it has come a long way and I think will continue to get better.

If I was CW I would make the girls do jumping drills. I don't know why but the women don't really jump for rebounds or blocked shots. I mean women from all teams don't really jump. If they worked with Shook and made her jump at 6'5" she could dunk the ball imagine how that would change the game.

Is it physiological? We know white guys can't jump. But seriously, I wonder if it is.

 

[CardsFirst]

This is all Jeff walz fault.

This thread went so far south it’s become hilarious to watch

 

[CommodoreCard]

I wish Obama would close this thread.

 

[nccardfan]

You do realize that unemployment during the Obama 8 years was the highest for African American men 20 - 50 years. Highest it had been in years. Unemployment right now is low in all sectors. Whether you like Trump or not the economy is hot.

I know I can get a job flipping burgers.. so what?

 

[KozmasAgain]

Here we go again so I will post one time on this comment. Not only is unemployment at record lows but this the first time since the 60's that wages are increasing for all Americans.