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The last part sounds like criticism I hear of the guy we have. Management here knew we weren’t getting the first part now.8 years as college coach - 2 Sweet 16s, 2 Elite 8s, one season canceled due to Covid. Got a bunch of portal guys past two years. This year he constructed really bad via the portal.
I’m not sure is Muss is the right person or not. I do know that he had success at Nevada and has made Arkansas relevant again. The criticisms of Payne are clearly deeper than portal roster construction. Even Rick has had a roster construction struggle this season. Outside of Bill Self, Kelvin Sampson and Scott Drew I don’t know of any coach that is surefire.The last part sounds like criticism I hear of the guy we have. Management here knew we weren’t getting the first part now.
Yet these same management guys are good with where we are if there was maybe a few more wins. So you tell me where the problem is.
The next coach will just be next bust. Musselman fills that role for me…
We can afford Scott Drew or Sampson but they are in situations where they don’t have to leave in order to reach the ultimate success. Money isn’t everything. We were very fortunate with the timing of Pitino’s hire. Keep in mind choice number two was Larry Eustachy. What I do know is that Payne will be fired and that the NIL mechanism that has benefitted Brohm will also be engaged to benefit the next head basketball coach.That’s the issue.
If we swap Payne for another pig in a poke, the cost needs to be manageable. Can’t afford the sure fire hire anymore, and I have no idea who that person is anyway nor does U of L.
The only certainty is that money is a problem…
It’s amazed me that there’s been no urgency from Payne on the NIL or recruiting front. It really seems like he never fully wanted to be the head coach here.We can afford Scott Drew or Sampson but they are in situations where they don’t have to leave in order to reach the ultimate success. Money isn’t everything. We were very fortunate with the timing of Pitino’s hire. Keep in mind choice number two was Larry Eustachy. What I do know is that Payne will be fired and that the NIL mechanism that has benefitted Brohm will also be engaged to benefit the next head basketball coach.
Nothing is known. People are deceiving themselves thinking otherwise. And I know of no one who is just waiting for Payne’s replacement to return with money and support. We’ve have been burned too many times.We can afford Scott Drew or Sampson but they are in situations where they don’t have to leave in order to reach the ultimate success. Money isn’t everything. We were very fortunate with the timing of Pitino’s hire. Keep in mind choice number two was Larry Eustachy. What I do know is that Payne will be fired and that the NIL mechanism that has benefitted Brohm will also be engaged to benefit the next head basketball coach.
The accomplishment in the Brohm hire is that it ignited NIL possibilities. The next bball hire can do the same if that person embraces it.Nothing is known. People are deceiving themselves thinking otherwise. And I know of no one who is just waiting for Payne’s replacement to return with money and support. We’ve have been burned too many times.
Brohm’s hire was no real accomplishment. We’re now smart enough to recognize that. Payne’s situation is more representative of what this administration has delivered in the way of results. Go cheap, aim low, lose even more money.
That’s not saying they’ll never pull off another unexpected hire. Just expect less and you won’t be disappointed…
Gets so old.......The accomplishment in the Brohm hire is that it ignited NIL possibilities. The next bball hire can do the same if that person embraces it.
However you can go on shitting on everything if that is how you want to roll.
Btw…saw your buddy TJ in Tampa this weekend at the baseball. He seems to have moved on.
We’ll never again witness the circumstances that landed Brohm. It’s a pipe dream.The accomplishment in the Brohm hire is that it ignited NIL possibilities. The next bball hire can do the same if that person embraces it…
No I crap on one thing……However you can go on shitting on everything if that is how you want to roll…
Tell that to the fans who wanna bring Brohm’s name into their argument.There really are no "sure thing" coaching hires out there especially with the new landscape of the portal and NIL…
Agreed, there are no perfect coaches. But I’m on board with Musselman because he’s an aggressive recruiter, and he’ll bring talent in. That I know for sure. (We said the same with Payne too, but I am confident saying that with Musselman). Obviously if he ends up he’ll have to manage rosters here better than he did this past year at Arkansas, but I think he’ll have options of players coming back.There really are no "sure thing" coaching hires out there especially with the new landscape of the portal and NIL. Some coaches are better than others of course, and everyone is better than Payne.
But coaches have to manage NIL, portal, and players year by year. It's always volatile and changing with multiple moving parts and it's easier than ever to have down years if you can't juggle everything. Even Pitino, who is obviously a great coach and has good NIL backers, is struggling this season. You really have to look at a coach's entire body of work though.
And another thing that I’ve heard about Musselman somewhere, is that he changes his style year by year depending on the roster he has. That’s an exciting thing to hear IMO.Agreed, there are no perfect coaches. But I’m on board with Musselman because he’s an aggressive recruiter, and he’ll bring talent in. That I know for sure. (We said the same with Payne too, but I am confident saying that with Musselman). Obviously if he ends up he’ll have to manage rosters here better than he did this past year at Arkansas, but I think he’ll have options of players coming back.
Go away, you have told 15 people to put you on ignore, so who is the problem????Don’t read it…
I guess people can’t read or follow instructions. You and @BPGhost will have to speak for yourselves…Go away, you have told 15 people to put you on ignore, so who is the problem????
I guess people can’t read or follow instructions. You and @BPGhost will have to speak for yourselves…
I see you little buddy - you don’t have to work so hard to get my attention.I guess people can’t read or follow instructions. You and @BPGhost will have to speak for yourselves…
That doesn't count the number that put on ignore without fanfRGo away, you have told 15 people to put you on ignore, so who is the problem????
Umm - yes sir. She’s pretty special.Wel I can say with certainty that Musselman can recruit.
I can’t help it that people like you follow me around…You've been a member for 631 days on this board and you average 6.7 posts/day. That is weird....and sad. Must be bored.
Still can’t just ignore me. Who’s “thirsty?”…I see you little buddy - you don’t have to work so hard to get my attention.
So thirsty…. 😂
Your obsession with me is weird. Bit of a stalker having to respond to everything I post. But hey....I can't blame you being such a big fan of mine. Bit of a stalker but a big fan I guessI can’t help it that people like you follow me around…
It’s still just you little buddy.Still can’t just ignore me. Who’s “thirsty?”…
Or, better yet…just go away. You’re a tired troll who just repeats the same tripe post after post. We’ve heard you, we’ve seen you and we’re done with you.Zipp begging to be ignored. Not how it works my guy. You dont control the room.If you can't handle the responses you can put them on ignore instead.
These dudes are having a blast they aren't bothered by you Zipp. They are enjoying it.
Ghost has more stamina. He's destroying you. He's reduced you to begging. Find your second wind Zipp. Quit begging for them to leave you alone. Or put them on ignore. Or keep begging. I don't think they are playing by your rules.
Good luck.
That's an option for a normal one but this is not your standard troll.Or, better yet…just go away. You’re a tired troll who just repeats the same tripe post after post. We’ve heard you, we’ve seen you and we’re done with you.
He said so much after he was hired. He said after the announcement he headed home to NY and nearly called and backed out, but was convinced to stay by Eaves and his cronies.It’s amazed me that there’s been no urgency from Payne on the NIL or recruiting front. It really seems like he never fully wanted to be the head coach here.
Not at all.He said so much after he was hired. He said after the announcement he headed home to NY and nearly called and backed out, but was convinced to stay by Eaves and his cronies.
If KP wanted to be a HC he would have been years ago. Everything about his time here stinks of not motivated to be here. It took him forever to complete his staff hires. Conditioning coach wasn’t hired until May or June. Does that sound like a motivated individual?
So I can’t respond when you address me? Good stuff!…Your obsession with me is weird. Bit of a stalker having to respond to everything I post. But hey....I can't blame you being such a big fan of mine. Bit of a stalker but a big fan I guess
You got that backwards, friend. I don’t generally b!tch and whine about posters here like the incessant outcries about ‘zipp’. I suspect the moderators get their earful too, but they never hear from me.Zipp begging to be ignored. Not how it works my guy. You dont control the room.If you can't handle the responses you can put them on ignore instead.
These dudes are having a blast they aren't bothered by you Zipp. They are enjoying it.
Ghost has more stamina. He's destroying you. He's reduced you to begging. Find your second wind Zipp. Quit begging for them to leave you alone. Or put them on ignore. Or keep begging. I don't think they are playing by your rules.
Good luck.