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I don't think $403 mil includes any money for an ACC Network either. That or a direct payment instead from ESPN will help close that gap.Zipp...the $440 Million doesn't include the B1G Network...the $403 Million was the entire ACC Revenue...the Gap is real and only going to grow.
A rising tide floats all boats...
Tell that to the AAC, MAC, MWC, CUSA, SBC.
Those aren't boats. Those are life rafts...Tell that to the AAC, MAC, MWC, CUSA, SBC.
Those aren't boats. Those are life rafts...
No question. The Big Ten's will increase exponentially into the billions while the ACC gets table scraps.The Big Ten's contract increasing doesn't mean the ACC's contract is going to increase. Here's the reality. The Big Ten's last TV contract was for $136 million a year. This new contract is for $440 million a year.
What the ACC needs is Notre Dame, which it can't get.No question. The Big Ten's will increase exponentially into the billions while the ACC gets table scraps.
What the ACC also needs is for two teams not named Florida State and Clemson to become/remain significantly better.What the ACC needs is Notre Dame, which it can't get.
This level of state concentration is also present in the Big XII, with 3 states (TX,OK,KS) representing Eight(8) of the BigXII's 10 teams. The Big XII is in 5 states, altogether.What the ACC also needs is for two teams not named Florida State and Clemson to become/remain significantly better.
And finally what the ACC needs is to take better advantage of its basketball content. And also its relatively young and higher income population. Eight (8) of the ACC's 14 teams are concentrated into 3 states (NC, VA, FL).
The gray matter in this thread is absolutely awesome!This is great news for the SEC and not so much for others so I love it. As for the ACC my suggestion to FSU and Clemson would be to start formulating an exit strategy just in case.
No question. The Big Ten's will increase exponentially into the billions while the ACC gets table scraps.
I agree with this one, and I actually believe that's coming at some point. The ACC along with the Big Ten, Kansas, and LPT pretty much define college basketball. That's about thirty schools that should wield plenty of basketball power....And finally what the ACC needs is to take better advantage of its basketball content...
Let's see a good reference for that number......As of next year, the Big Ten's average revenue will be around $800 million...
Tend to disagree as the SEC is a better conference and is located in an area that is growing whereas the BIG footprint is losing population every year.
Let's see a good reference for that number...
Zipp, do you not think the SEC will score a better deal now that the BIG has raided the bar?
Here you go. We already established that the Big Ten will get $440 million just from TV revenue. That's $31.4 million per school.
They get $8 million a year per school from the BTN, $112 million overall. (Paragraph 12)
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2016/04/25/Media/Big-Ten.aspx
They get $40 million for the Rose Bowl, which is $2.8 million per school.
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2012/07/16/Colleges/BCS-playoffs.aspx
Now, this site has approximately what they get from other sources:
CFP- $4.7 million per school - $65.8 million total.
NCAA distributions- $4.4 million - $61.6 million total.
Big Ten tournament & title game - $740k, 10.36 total.
http://awfulannouncing.com/2016/big...ia-revenues-skyrocket-thanks-new-tv-deal.html
So, add it up. 440 TV + 112 BTN + 40 Rose Bowl + 65.8 CFP + $61.6 NCAA + CCG/Tournament + 10.36 = $729.76 million a year. That's also not counting the rest of their bowl money, which I didn't bother to look up. It works out to around $52 million per school. Compare that with the $26 million the ACC schools got last year.
The SEC's contract doesn't expire until 2034.
No, no, no, no, no......So, add it up. 440 TV + 112 BTN + 40 Rose Bowl + 65.8 CFP + $61.6 NCAA + 10.36 CCG/Tournament = $729.76 million a year...
I don't give a rat's a$$ about the SEC except to ensure that it starts getting less basketball money from the NCAA, which is what it deserves.Zipp, do you not think the SEC will score a better deal now that the BIG has raided the bar?
No, no, no, no, no...
I don't want YOUR math. How much double accounting is in there I have no idea.
If the rolled up number is that large, there ought to be one reference out there that does all of that accounting for you. Hell, there oughta be several.
Just link it, and I'll take it from there. Thanks...
Yeah, I figured there was some flimsy math involved. Like my Daddy told me many years ago, consider your source...Doesn't matter what you want. Those are the numbers. You can stick you head in the sand all you want. Those numbers are solid.
Yeah, I figured there was some flimsy math involved. Like my Daddy told me many years ago, consider your source...
Let me spell it out for you then... Find me a reference to someone else doing the math just like you. Then, I'll start to believe yours.No, there isn't any flimsy math. I demonstrated EXACTLY where the numbers came from. You are just too stubborn to admit when you are wrong. I'm right, and the numbers prove it.
Let me spell it out for you then... Find me a reference to someone else doing the math just like you. Then, I'll start to believe yours.
Or do you want the rest of us to believe you're the only genius who has figured this out?...
Nothing you're gonna create here can be taken as fact. Facts have links.I posted links to back up EVERY SINGLE NUMBER I listed.
Here's the thing. You can't argue any of this.
It is a FACT that the Big Ten gets a payout from the Rose Bowl.
It is a FACT that the Big Ten gets a payout from the CFP.
It is a FACT that the Big Ten gets a payout from the NCAA.
It is a FACT that the Big Ten gets a payout from their CCG & basketball tournament.
You HAVE to count that money for the Big Ten. You don't have a choice.
Nothing you're gonna create here can be taken as fact. Facts have links.
The highest monetary number in the history of college sports--freakin' $800 mil--should at least have ONE link. Yet, you can't produce it.
All I need to know...
And you're the only guy to EVER perform your calculation? Is that what I'm supposed to believe?
Or the far more likely probability, since there is no corresponding reference, that you concocted it?
Hell, you can't even find a number CLOSE to $800 mil. You need to at least polish up the next turd you pull outta your a$$...
I'm not the guy in this thread once again referencing his a$$......That fact that you don't even read them says more about you that it does me.
Yes, the Big Ten and SEC will be making about $25m per team per year more than the ACC teams. Totally true.And here the thing...along with the SEC the B1G also has a tie-in with the Orange Bowl-($27.5 Million when they place a team there) and they go back to the table again in 6 years...they are going to leave everyone IMO in the dust.