1-5 against top 25 teams

[beasleythecard]

1-5 against top 25 teams on the road. That is not the mark of a great team.

It is the mark of playing players that have no business in a louisville uniform.

Sorry guys, but there is no way adel should start over king. None whatsoever.

Anas needs to start over mangok.

You can get pissy at this opinion or you can look at results.

Adel and mangok should be playing off of the bench at best....


Yes i am a season ticket holding graduate of louisville and yes i believe those two are an anchor around the neck of louisville basketball.


While we are at it, this team plays better with Snider on the bench beside adel amd mangok.

Make those three players second team guys and start
Anas
Mitchel
Mcmahon
King
Johnson

And bring
Snider
Hicks
Adel
Mangok
And spalding off of the pine.


If we do so we will win a national championship. If we do not we will lose our first weekend in the tourney.

So im sure this ruffles some feathers of the staunch elite fans, but if you read the entire thread your common sence meter will agree with every word.


My $ .02
Go CARDS!!!

 

[KerryRhodes]

Youre 2 cents is worthless.

Im tired of arguing with you.
Take the rest of the year off Beas.

 

[CardVille]

We still lose that game regardless of who starts. Adel is one of our best right now, he deserves to start. I have no problem with King, lot of upside but his time will come. McMahon is nowhere near a starting lineup, he is right where he needs to be coming off the bench.

 

[beasleythecard]

We still lose that game regardless of who starts. Adel is one of our best right now, he deserves to start. I have no problem with King, lot of upside but his time will come. McMahon is nowhere near a starting lineup, he is right where he needs to be coming off the bench.

Give mcmahon any of the shots adel fumbled, give king any of the same and we win the game.

King has never missed a wide open dunk. Definitly not as many as adel.
Adel would get 20 minutes a game for me until he learned to dribble the ball at a 3rd grade level.

Yes he had a great dunk. Wowww weeeee... How about the abuse he suffered on the defensive end.

No way king could play worse, but king gives you somid offense.

Pitino is scared of one amd dones and is holding king back.

 

[beasleythecard]

Youre 2 cents is worthless.

Im tired of arguing with you.
Take the rest of the year off Beas.

Please explain why we made a run with snider, mango amd nba adel on the bench? Pllllllllease explain that?

 

[beasleythecard]

Adel is one of our best right now, he deserves to start

Couldnt disagree more.

Adel cant dribble without falling down. Yes he had a great dunk, but he got abused on the defensive end. ABUSED

Give king those minutes and we win.

 

[KerryRhodes]

You got your wish when Mangok and Adel were suspended.
How'd that work out for ya............

Mangok is the best center-period.
Adel is the best small forward-period.
Anas is a 7 footer with a SF frame.

Your incessant whining wont change that.

McMahon is a spot up 3 point shooter. He's no where near Q's level.

Youre irrational.

 

[beasleythecard]

You got your wish when Mangok and Adel were suspended.
How'd that work out for ya............

Mangok is the best center-period.
Adel is the best small forward-period.
Anas is a 7 footer with a SF frame.

Your incessant whining wont change that.

McMahon is a spot up 3 point shooter. He's no where near Q's level.

Youre irrational.

Q should have been benched last night. It disappoints me that you refuse to admit that.
You are one of my favorite posters, but this season you have blinders on.

 

[CardChipper]

I don't really think it was one player, or matchup. We shrunk from the limelight a bit, and lost our poise. The free throw stats and Rick getting into it with a fan kind of speaks to me about that. It was mental-the UNC mystique, unfamiliar surroundings in Chapel Hill, or something. Everybody was pressing, and was stressed. This team is coming along fine, but mentally has to get tougher, and Rick has to find a way to get that done.

 

[beasleythecard]

I don't really think it was one player

Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds for the game. Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds in the first half.

please tell me why VJ King is sitting on the bench again? surely VJ would have scored some points in the second half right?

people wonder why big time recruits shun louisville, all they have to do is look at the treatment of VJ and how he is sitting behind a player that shouldnt have a louisville jersey.

 

[anon_0astpxev9h4gk]

 

[TheRealVille]

Why does anybody have to explain anything to you? Who are you by the way? What gets me about you is this insistence that you know more about who should play than Rick Pitino. A hall of fame coach with close to 800 wins.

Also, there is nobody who agrees with your opinion that Snider and Adel should sit behind McMahon and King. Nobody! Why is that? Because it's ludacris to think that. Maybe Deng Adel isn't as good now as a sophomore that we expected, but he's a damn good player that still has tons of upside. If VJ King was so clearly better he would play over Adel.

Everyone here looks at you as a troll because your expertise is saying ridiculous things. McMahon over Snider? That is as stupid a opinion I've ever seen. Pitino isn't playing King because he doesn't want him to be a one and done? That one is so stupid it sounds like it would come from a UK fan.

I have refrained from responding to your posts for the most part because I don't like arguing with adolescents but your posts today had to be responded to. Why is everyone else so blind including the Hall of Fame coach and you're so enlightened? Answering that question should be hilarious.

 

[nccardfan]

Beas - all I need to do is look at the Virginia game. Yeah, King scored 24 points and is the next Stephen Curry right? Let's look at what else he did in 37 minutes of play. 2 fouls, 1 assist (yeah give me the ball but you ain't getting it back), 2 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1 steal. Oh and guess what? We lost bad. That tells me King is only looking to do one thing. How does that work usually on a CRP team?

 

[TheRealVille]

VJ King is about where Adel was as a freshman. You can see the potential and in time can be a all-conference player. King was never a one and done. He knew he was behind Adel and knew it would take a lot of hard work to surpass him.

This is a team game and the Cards need all of these players to play at their best to make a final 4. Pitino knows what his players can do more than any fan on a message board.

 

[CardChipper]

Yeah, there is no real reason to jump off a bridge. That was a tough deal last night. It takes a Siva or a Dieng to get a team together for that. Mangok has potential, as does Mitchell, but Q can't do it yet.

 

[TheRealVille]

The game I watched seemed obvious what the problem was. Missed open shots. It wasn't any one player isn't ready or out of his place. Mitchell missed his wide open 3's in the first half.

Cards were down only three at halftime despite making no 3's and no FT'S. Had they hit half of the 3's they took in the first half, they would have been up six at the half.

These were wide open 3's. For some reason the guys couldn't make their 3's. They eventually fell behind by double digits and started taking more 3's. JJ even made one.

 

[ShortCreek]

Adel was too busy yelling after the monster dunk and gave two points up at the opposite end 4-6 seconds later. In other words, nice highlight reel material but it was cancelled out seconds later.

 

[CardChipper]

Everybody screaming about King just hasn't watch him much. He gets those doe eyes in tough situations. He just needs a year or so, he is still such a kid. Really lost in switching defenses and strategic situations. When we need a stop late, you just can't have him in the game.

 

[beasleythecard]

Beas - all I need to do is look at the Virginia game. Yeah, King scored 24 points and is the next Stephen Curry right? Let's look at what else he did in 37 minutes of play. 2 fouls, 1 assist (yeah give me the ball but you ain't getting it back), 2 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1 steal. Oh and guess what? We lost bad. That tells me King is only looking to do one thing. How does that work usually on a CRP team?

Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds for the game. Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds in the first half. Deng got abused on the defensive end.............. rewatch the game, they attacked Deng every chance they got. Hate my stance all you wish, we will have a short march because Pitino plays Adel over King.

 

[TheRealVille]

So you are telling everyone that you know more than Rick Pitino?

 

[gocds]

1-5 against top 25 teams on the road. That is not the mark of a great team.

It is the mark of playing players that have no business in a louisville uniform.

Sorry guys, but there is no way adel should start over king. None whatsoever.

Anas needs to start over mangok.

You can get pissy at this opinion or you can look at results.

Adel and mangok should be playing off of the bench at best....


Yes i am a season ticket holding graduate of louisville and yes i believe those two are an anchor around the neck of louisville basketball.


While we are at it, this team plays better with Snider on the bench beside adel amd mangok.

Make those three players second team guys and start
Anas
Mitchel
Mcmahon
King
Johnson

And bring
Snider
Hicks
Adel
Mangok
And spalding off of the pine.


If we do so we will win a national championship. If we do not we will lose our first weekend in the tourney.

So im sure this ruffles some feathers of the staunch elite fans, but if you read the entire thread your common sence meter will agree with every word.


My $ .02
Go CARDS!!!

Yeah, well my .02 cents worth is that you think you are a better judge of talent and coaching than HOF coach Rick Pitino. Well my two cents tells me that you are full of shyte and are simply a Rick Pitino hater. Please show up at his next "live" show and face him to tell him all of your criticisms. How about that 2 cents worth.
Or maybe you ARE getting the response you want . . . in any case it's getting old, real old.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

 

[beasleythecard]

Everyone here looks at you as a troll because your expertise is saying ridiculous things. McMahon over Snider? That is as stupid a opinion I've ever seen.

and that is why we lost last night my man. Snider stunk that gym up and should have been benched. to not acknowledge that is asinine.

think of me what you wish, call me every name in the book, snider deserved a lot of bench last night.

 

[beasleythecard]

So you are telling everyone that you know more than Rick Pitino?

I know we are 1-5 against ranked teams on the road so whatever is being done is not working. The truth upsets people, and that is what this is the truth, 1-5 is not getting it done.

 

[beasleythecard]

in any case it's getting old, real old.

Pitino holding King back is getting real old because Deng is stinking it up.

Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds for the game. Deng Adel had 8 points and 6 rebounds in the first half.

 

[EasyCard]

Beas - all I need to do is look at the Virginia game. Yeah, King scored 24 points and is the next Stephen Curry right? Let's look at what else he did in 37 minutes of play. 2 fouls, 1 assist (yeah give me the ball but you ain't getting it back), 2 turnovers, 3 rebounds, 1 steal. Oh and guess what? We lost bad. That tells me King is only looking to do one thing. How does that work usually on a CRP team?

Don't forget all the points his lack of defense gave up. King should not get more minutes than Deng, but that doesn't mean Deng is that good, just better than King's defense.

 

[kyjeff1]

1-5 against top 25 teams on the road. That is not the mark of a great team.

It is the mark of playing players that have no business in a louisville uniform.

Sorry guys, but there is no way adel should start over king. None whatsoever.

Anas needs to start over mangok.

You can get pissy at this opinion or you can look at results.

Adel and mangok should be playing off of the bench at best....


Yes i am a season ticket holding graduate of louisville and yes i believe those two are an anchor around the neck of louisville basketball.


While we are at it, this team plays better with Snider on the bench beside adel amd mangok.

Make those three players second team guys and start
Anas
Mitchel
Mcmahon
King
Johnson

And bring
Snider
Hicks
Adel
Mangok
And spalding off of the pine.


If we do so we will win a national championship. If we do not we will lose our first weekend in the tourney.

So im sure this ruffles some feathers of the staunch elite fans, but if you read the entire thread your common sence meter will agree with every word.


My $ .02
Go CARDS!!!

Beas, from an outside perspective, I thought the cards looked pretty good.

Looked to me like there were some calls that were one sided for a small portion of the game that caused some separation, but UL hung in there pretty well.

The road does some weird things to most teams, but I would have thought you guys would have liked most of what you saw.

I don't know too many teams that can go into Chapel Hill against THAT UNC team and perform much better than the cards did.
On a neutral floor, the results would be much different.

 

[rockycard]

Beasley is our crazyqx....

 

[Mike'sMarbles]

All due respect to the OP, I just disagree with most of your take.

I feel like, (obviously) DM is our best player, but I think Dieng is our 2nd best. When those 2 are playing well just offensively I don't think many teams can beat us.

I'm with the others, I don't understand how you replace Q with McMahon. I like how McMahon has been coming along in a small role, generating instant offense and making some good hustle plays but I don't see him as a starting PG at this stage.

Keep in mind, this was the first game where I think everyone was back. The players coming back from injury need time to get back into the flow. Just getting 100% healthy heading into March will be a win for this team.

I think we just lost a tough game against a very good team on the road. It sucks but it happens. I feel like we've won our share this year and we're going to be a factor in the NCAA Tournament.

 

[zipp]

Beasley is lost in the weeds. ...Again.

The U of L coach who made the roster decisions last nite is the same coach who had the best road record in the BEast during U of L's tenure. And like the ACC, the BEast was the best conference in college basketball until that point in time.

The premise in the OP is that these issues are ROAD issues. And that's bullshot...

 

[beasleythecard]

I am going to do a 180 and just accept mediocre basketball. Wanting greatness from this team is like me waking up to rihanna.

Diehard cardinal. Wish we had leeis and lee this season. We would be undefeated.

Disappointed in the play of our cards, but will be in my seat cheering us on against syracuse.

Go Cards

 

[HRTheCard]

Please explain why we made a run with snider, mango amd nba adel on the bench? Pllllllllease explain that?

You think losing at Florida State is a run? We're lucky Snider was out during the down part of our schedule. Take snider out of Uk and who wins?

With Snider, @ Florida St would have been a W.

Oh by the way, the last time we won a road ranked team was in 2014. So I guess in 2015-16 you can still blame Adel for those losses?

 

[randomghost11]

It's not about Adel or Mangok being benched. We just need someone to step up besides Mitchell. Doesn't matter if it's Adel, Mangok, Anas, King, Spalding, Q, Jaylen, Hicks, McMoney, or even Levitch; We see all of them have nice games from time to time but rarely against the opponents that we need them the most.

 

[HRTheCard]

It's not about Adel or Mangok being benched. We just need someone to step up besides Mitchell. Doesn't matter if it's Adel, Mangok, Anas, King, Spalding, Q, Jaylen, Hicks, McMoney, or even Levitch; We see all of them have nice games from time to time but rarely against the opponents that we need them the most.

99% of me tells me none of those guys do it because of the inexperience still. Besides Mangok and Q, everyone is still a year out.

 

[randomghost11]

99% of me tells me none of those guys do it because of the inexperience still. Besides Mangok and Q, everyone is still a year out.

That is likely but we will need a few of em to step up in the big games. I'm hoping it's Q and Mitchell to lead us like many other Guard combos have lead before in the tournament. Adel and King both hit some shots and occasionally have a nice game; the bigs feast on putbacks and protecting the rim and McMahon or Levitch can be the typical shooter you see help championship teams.

 

[nccardfan]

It's not about Adel or Mangok being benched. We just need someone to step up besides Mitchell. Doesn't matter if it's Adel, Mangok, Anas, King, Spalding, Q, Jaylen, Hicks, McMoney, or even Levitch; We see all of them have nice games from time to time but rarely against the opponents that we need them the most.

McMoney? I don't know if that's your nickname for him but I love it! Actually there's no way I thought he was going to miss that wide open 3. We seemed to have a letdown after that Miss.

 

[Mike'sMarbles]

I know we are 1-5 against ranked teams on the road so whatever is being done is not working. The truth upsets people, and that is what this is the truth, 1-5 is not getting it done.

I've looked at our schedule 3 times and I'm not sure where you're getting 1-5 vs. ranked teams on the road. I see 0-4: vs. Notre Dame, FSU, Virginia, and UNC. Not that 0-4 is great, but I think that is the real record.

Also, I was curious how other teams are faring against Top 25 opponents. I looked at the current Top 10 teams plus UK, since we all know they're going to be back in the Top 10 next week due to their weak SEC schedule. These are where the teams were ranked at the time they played, not current rankings. Maybe that's the difference with OP's 1-5? If I missed any please let me know, but this is what I'm seeing:

Zags: 1-0 (St. Marys)
Nova: 3-1 (W: Purdue, Creighton, Xavier, L: Butler)
Kansas: 2-1 (W: UK, Baylor. L: WVU)
Arizona: 1-1 (W: UCLA, L: Oregon)
UCLA: 1-1 (W: UK, L: Oregon)
Oregon: 0-1 (UCLA)
UNC: 0-2 (IU, Duke)
Baylor: 1-2 (W: K-State, L: WVU, Kansas)
Duke: 2-2 (W: ND, VA, L: FSU, UofL)
UK: 0-2 (UofL, Florida)
Louisville: 0-4 (ND, FSU, VA, UNC)

There are not a lot of W's in there. 11 W's in the Top 10. Granted, we have the most L's. But UNC is going to win our league and may not have a Top 25 road win. Only 2 Top 10 teams have a winning record on the road against Top 25. I just don't think we're that much worse than everyone else.

 

[nccardfan]

I've looked at our schedule 3 times and I'm not sure where you're getting 1-5 vs. ranked teams on the road. I see 0-4: vs. Notre Dame, FSU, Virginia, and UNC. Not that 0-4 is great, but I think that is the real record.

Also, I was curious how other teams are faring against Top 25 opponents. I looked at the current Top 10 teams plus UK, since we all know they're going to be back in the Top 10 next week due to their weak SEC schedule. These are where the teams were ranked at the time they played, not current rankings. Maybe that's the difference with OP's 1-5? If I missed any please let me know, but this is what I'm seeing:

Zags: 1-0 (St. Marys)
Nova: 3-1 (W: Purdue, Creighton, Xavier, L: Butler)
Kansas: 2-1 (W: UK, Baylor. L: WVU)
Arizona: 1-1 (W: UCLA, L: Oregon)
UCLA: 1-1 (W: UK, L: Oregon)
Oregon: 0-1 (UCLA)
UNC: 0-2 (IU, Duke)
Baylor: 1-2 (W: K-State, L: WVU, Kansas)
Duke: 2-2 (W: ND, VA, L: FSU, UofL)
UK: 0-2 (UofL, Florida)
Louisville: 0-4 (ND, FSU, VA, UNC)

There are not a lot of W's in there. 11 W's in the Top 10. Granted, we have the most L's. But UNC is going to win our league and may not have a Top 25 road win. Only 2 Top 10 teams have a winning record on the road against Top 25. I just don't think we're that much worse than everyone else.

He must be counting the Indiana game as the win although it was at a neutral site. Don't know where the 5th loss is coming from either.

 

[CardHack]

That road record is to suggest Louisville is a lousy road squad; I'd temper that by saying that at the time the win in Indy against IU would be deemed very different because Indiana itself was within three weeks removed from beating UNC and a month from beating KU...had Onunoby among others. I'd also proffer that our game at Chapel Hill is the only time in the last two months where we took to the road with a full roster--and nobody else has beaten the Heels in Chapel Hill...we certainly didn't in Tallahassee--who for the record also hasn't lost at home this year--we didn't in Charlottesville and we had just started getting that back going into the Carrier Dome (sans Hicks)....a Carrier Dome for the record where we kicked away a fairly comfortable looking win in the last minute and a half and a Carrier Dome that I'm sure no Duke fan is saying is an easy place to play.

I think the ranked road record becomes a matter of cherrypicking and I'd say that same thing if you look beneath the road record since 2014. It's not like we're playing the bottom of the top 25...that stretch includes a trip to Lansing, MI, Rupp Arena, Cameron Indoor and two trips to Chapel Hill beyond just Charlottesville. Outside of a trip to Lawrence, KS and perhaps Tempe to play Arizona you're talking about the toughest places to play in college basketball.

 

[ThroughBlue]

Beasley is our crazyqx....

Whoa now don't talk about Beasley like that

 

[KerryRhodes]

Hey OP

Did you know there was a team that was 1-5 vs the top 25 that won the Natty ?
2010-11 Uconn. A team that finished the regular season 21-9.
The worst UofL could finish is 22-9. I highly doubt they lose 4 in a row.

That Huskie team did have alot of talent and 4 NBA players ( 2 current )

This Louisville team has up to 5 potential NBA players. One surefire in Mitchell.
By the way. Last time we checked, the NCAAT wasnt played on the road. Theyre neutral sites. Indianapolis is on the radar if the Cards finish top 10. Yes, we know youll be there.

Theyll be a 2 or a 3 seed. Quite an accomplishment for a team returning one starter.
We all love to be 5-1 on the road, yet it wasnt in the Cards this season.
Relax, smoke a doobie, have some courvoisier. Go to Vegas this weekend.
If a 21-9 Uconn team can win the Title, theres no reason to think a 22-6 UofL team cant.
Theyre an E8 team who is close to getting to F4 status. Chill out Beas..........