Good clip he looks like he can take care of business I hope plays with aggressiveness because he looks intimidating.

SpotHogCard said:

I'm just giving national stats.

The other thing is that IMO GT Dline is better than ND. How many yards did ND give up to Ill? GT Oline is on par with or a slight edge than ND. GT will prove this the game right after ours.

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It's hard to find good analytics like a KenPom of college football, I usually go with ESPN's FPI.

Overall, ESPN FPI rates the Notre Dame defense #5 overall. Their SOS in that ranking is #47.

In terms of the teams ND has faced

Texas A&M's offense is #39
Northern Illinois' offense is #55
Purdue's offense is #113
Miami OH's offense is #107

Our offense is #11 in the ESPN FPI against the #124 SOS

In terms of the defenses, we have faced.

GT's defense is rated #72
JVST's defense is rated #116


It's early and I wish I had some more breakdown of efficiencies on stopping the run and such, because raw stats are hard to gage so early in the year, but I guess you could say that we're the best offense they've faced and they're the best defense we've faced.

These ratings are hard to judge so early as teams play backups and weaker opponents, so you don't get the good data until later on in the season.

He is a great addition and well deserving of the honor, Teddy and Harry Doulas were cut from the same mold. Both of them were good athletes who were very humble. They are both good ambassadors for the University and the city.

I like getting the local kids in all sports especially if they good athletes. Like I have said before our best years have always been when we have the best athletes from not only Louisville but from the Commonwealth of Kentucky.

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Mayoman said:

FB Tradition is hard to start, harder to maintain and takes dominating a league for an extended period of time...and the Cards have not been in a league long enough to do that until now with the ACC. However it wasn't until last year the Cards made the ACC ship game in what is nationally seen as the 2nd to 1st weakest P5 now P4 league.

Now the Cards need to prove it on the field and win the league...more than once and then make some noise in the new CFPlayoff Tournament. Do that and the nation will take notice. Our past successes or just that in the past and not vs P5 conference teams. Almost forgot...Cards need to beat UK this year and regain dominance in that rivalry.

Not getting the W vs them is the most important thing in this state or you can't muster national respect. Have to be the best team in a non football state as others see it outside of KY to gain respect or butkus.

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Playing in games that matter is what elevates you.


The Petrino 1.0 era was defined by those Thursday games that mattered. The primetime games we put up big points on TV. Coming close and then spanking Miami. WVU game. Rutgers game even in a loss. Dominating UK on Labor Day weekend. The Orange Bowl. People saw us in those games and we looked great. Smaller stadium, but the crowd was louder and it looked better in a sellout.

The Charlie era was really weird. Schedule was bad those years, but the one game that mattered was that Florida game and it held weight. Then it kept translating. Dominating Miami in that Bowl and then the Labor Day game to start Bobby 2.0 looked great. Then we played Jameis really close. Then the win at Notre Dame was a great way to cap the start in the ACC. Then 2016, we have the Heisman and must see tv. Gameday and a FSU blowout. The game of the year against Clemson. People were watching us and it mattered. At that point, we had stability going back to 2012 of big wins on national TV in games people and pollsters watched. We had the biggest star in the sport. We had respect, even with 1 loss we were in the playoff hunt.

That game against Houston is probably the worst game in UofL history. That moment, everyone was watching us. We get embarrassed on national TV. We then lose to Kentucky the next week on national tv with Lamar. LSU in a bowl game demolishes us. Then 2017 we essentially waste Lamar again and our time in the national spotlight ends. 2018 we collapsed. Satt's era was fine, but we just weren't in that spotlight.

Last year was a good start. The ND game last year mattered because you could match record, ranking, and a big win people saw. We still weren't in the spotlight, because the ACC isn't great and we didn't have a lot of great wins. But we had a good season. The Miami win mattered more than people know, being on ABC in a good game. But then ending the season the way we did, it just gives people some reservation. Now the ending doesn't tank your opinion, Jeff has people talking, but what it could've done was solidify us further as not just some good ACC program like NC State and Doren, but a team that can contend on a national stage.

Right now, people see us as this program with this coach everyone likes and we're just a good team that could make noise and maybe steal a bid if things go right. But winning Saturday is what moves you ahead because people will be watching. You win Saturday? Then people are really watching the Miami game and it gives us another big stage. Beat Miami or even play them close, then it creates another big matchup with Clemson.

Last year's ACC title game mattered only because of FSU, like all ACC title games it's only about one team and it's never had a truly great matchup. That's not our fault. The game having an auto-bid matters and if we're taken seriously, it makes our brand matter.

This was probably long and stupid, but we're in a place I believe we were probably around 2014-2015. Satt for all the crap he gets, we were ranked in his last year and he made us respectable, not feared or elite, but respected and consistent. Jeff took that step last year where we had the big season where people are on the lookout. Now? Do we take the 2016 step and force our way into the national discussion?

FB Tradition is hard to start, harder to maintain and takes dominating a league for an extended period of time...and the Cards have not been in a league long enough to do that until now with the ACC. However it wasn't until last year the Cards made the ACC ship game in what is nationally seen as the 2nd to 1st weakest P5 now P4 league.

Now the Cards need to prove it on the field and win the league...more than once and then make some noise in the new CFPlayoff Tournament. Do that and the nation will take notice. Our past successes or just that in the past and not vs P5 conference teams. Almost forgot...Cards need to beat UK this year and regain dominance in that rivalry.

Not getting the W vs them is the most important thing in this state or you can't muster national respect. Have to be the best team in a non football state as others see it outside of KY to gain respect or butkus.

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TheRealVille said:

Well, regardless of the example I used, Louisville can achieve elite status in my opinion if Jeff Brohm stays on for 10+ years. It won't be exactly like Clemson or any other program, but good enough to stop being a hunter program and be a hunted program.

I don't enjoy being the disrespected team that needs to be overlooked to win against great programs. I want to stroll into Notre Dame and remind them that there's a new elite program in the ACC.

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I don't think we're disrespected at all because it's not personal.
It's more Notre Dame being overrated.

Living in SEC country in Nashville, I met A LOT OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL fans. We may rag on the $EC and such, but their fans have passion about the sport, all of them. They know it very well and you can find it all over the south. Nashville has so many people from the surrounding states that you'll see so many SEC fans in your office.

I always got some respect in terms of they thought we always had a good team and program. Now they do not respect any ACC program outside of Clemson and FSU when they're good, which is typical, but again that's a conference that has earned their respect in terms of talent and passion. But they don't knock us at all.

The friends I made there now do think of Brohm as a solid coach. I think they think he could be a Bill Snyder or even Frank Beamer type of coach, but remember it took those guys decades and several wins on the big stage to earn that legacy, which we as much as we think we have we haven't gotten on the stage like those programs the last 20-30 years where the casual fan saw them. We're a team that essentially had 2 BCS Bowl wins and then we added Lamar, but it's never been a consistent thing. People think of some cool moments with us and all, but there's no consistent thing like a packed stadium and crazy environment every week that people know about.

Jeff can only do so much though, which people do know that and that's why they think he's a great coach for here. But to duplicate the jump Dabo made at Clemson is going to be very hard.

Now I will say this, they had a sh*t ton of respect for Bobby Petrino's coaching ability and until his decline, they always loved talking about him how he's just a winner that doesn't have a soul. Bobby gave us a lot of credibility in those circles until the end lol.

It takes a lot to get that respect. Beating Notre Dame last year was awesome and going to the ACC title game was nice, but we have to remember the fans of other teams don't follow closely. Yes we beat Notre Dame, but then they lost to Northern Illinois and that hurts that perception a bit. We got to the ACC title game, but didn't look great. There's also the fact that Pitt won the ACC title game and there was always a FSU/Clemson invitational of teams rotating to get beat up by Clemson/FSU for a decade.

LeFors4Ever said:

Clemson was a bit ahead of us though in terms of history, support, and recruiting area. They were more of an underachieving sleeping giant. They've had expectations where their fans thought they should consistently be competing with the top dogs in the country, they just weren't doing well. A head coach can't simply do it, Dabo wasn't an X's and O's genius, he just had the resources and was at the right place at the right time.

They had a program with some history and had some high expectations. They didn't think they'd be able to get where they were, but they were consistently ranked and winning 8-9 games consistently before Dabo arrived. Not to mention a legit national title in 1981. Now maybe we've been consistent, but Clemson had a lot more money and fan support behind them for a while, they were just underachieving. They've played in an 80,000-seat stadium for a while.

They're also in prime recruiting area too. Their rise also was around the time Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, & South Carolina began to slip. Not to mention Virginia Tech, FSU, and Miami all had big slides in the ACC during their run of dominance. They had a perfect storm of things.

For us to make that kind of jump, it's more than just 1 head coach being great. It takes a lot of factors. Clemson before this run with Dabo was averaging close to 80k in attendance. Clemson was still usually a top 15-20 recruiting ranking team, a lot of NFL talent. Where we're a fanbase that's getting 50k per game and we aren't really in the best territory for recruiting. Dabo was able to use their larger budget to hire the top coordinators and assistants to run his team too, we have NIL money and good donations but we've never had the budget like a Clemson for a top notch staff like that. Clemson's OC Garrett Riley makes $1.7 million per years, whereas Brian Brohm and Ron English make $1.4 million combined(700k a piece), Clemson's top position assistant coach makes $900k.

Those are just harder hills Jeff Brohm has to climb compared to what Dabo faced. Clemson is more like a job where the right guy at the right time could win titles, where Louisville it takes a special guy like Jeff and some breaks to go our way to even get close to contention for a year or 2 maybe.

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Well, regardless of the example I used, Louisville can achieve elite status in my opinion if Jeff Brohm stays on for 10+ years. It won't be exactly like Clemson or any other program, but good enough to stop being a hunter program and be a hunted program.

I don't enjoy being the disrespected team that needs to be overlooked to win against great programs. I want to stroll into Notre Dame and remind them that there's a new elite program in the ACC.

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With NIL/Portal, the kicker-punter positions shouldn't be an issue anywhere anymore. IT's the hardest position to judge from high school, but you can easily go poach the best ones from G5 and FCS or even D2.

And with more scholarships to give now, you can give all these local kids a spot too.

TheRealVille said:

Last thing I want is to get beat...period.

What I'm saying is I want Louisville to do what Clemson did. Go from a good consistent winner to a perennial national championship contender.

The underdog, disrespected years I want to be gone now that we may have a career head coach with Brohm. If Jeff stays and doesn't look elsewhere, this program has that chance to be elite.

I think we're on the precipice of this so when I see an average ND team a touchdown favorite, it pisses me off a bit. But it's all good. I know there's Cards fans that are ND fans as well. I hope it's a clean game with no serious injuries.

Go Cards!

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Clemson was a bit ahead of us though in terms of history, support, and recruiting area. They were more of an underachieving sleeping giant. They've had expectations where their fans thought they should consistently be competing with the top dogs in the country, they just weren't doing well. A head coach can't simply do it, Dabo wasn't an X's and O's genius, he just had the resources and was at the right place at the right time.

They had a program with some history and had some high expectations. They didn't think they'd be able to get where they were, but they were consistently ranked and winning 8-9 games consistently before Dabo arrived. Not to mention a legit national title in 1981. Now maybe we've been consistent, but Clemson had a lot more money and fan support behind them for a while, they were just underachieving. They've played in an 80,000-seat stadium for a while.

They're also in prime recruiting area too. Their rise also was around the time Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina, & South Carolina began to slip. Not to mention Virginia Tech, FSU, and Miami all had big slides in the ACC during their run of dominance. They had a perfect storm of things.

For us to make that kind of jump, it's more than just 1 head coach being great. It takes a lot of factors. Clemson before this run with Dabo was averaging close to 80k in attendance. Clemson was still usually a top 15-20 recruiting ranking team, a lot of NFL talent. Where we're a fanbase that's getting 50k per game and we aren't really in the best territory for recruiting. Dabo was able to use their larger budget to hire the top coordinators and assistants to run his team too, we have NIL money and good donations but we've never had the budget like a Clemson for a top notch staff like that. Clemson's OC Garrett Riley makes $1.7 million per years, whereas Brian Brohm and Ron English make $1.4 million combined(700k a piece), Clemson's top position assistant coach makes $900k.

Those are just harder hills Jeff Brohm has to climb compared to what Dabo faced. Clemson is more like a job where the right guy at the right time could win titles, where Louisville it takes a special guy like Jeff and some breaks to go our way to even get close to contention for a year or 2 maybe.

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Rollem Cards said:

I’ll wear the “disrespect” cloak as long as it works.

Like the old saying “Call me whatever you want as long as you call me to dinner”.

Last thing I want is to get beat as favorites.

THAT will not earn us any respect.

I think the line is what it is because it’s ND.

The elites ALWAYS get built up, then excused when they fall.

But, it’s a good discussion. Everybody has different ideas!

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Last thing I want is to get beat...period.

What I'm saying is I want Louisville to do what Clemson did. Go from a good consistent winner to a perennial national championship contender.

The underdog, disrespected years I want to be gone now that we may have a career head coach with Brohm. If Jeff stays and doesn't look elsewhere, this program has that chance to be elite.

I think we're on the precipice of this so when I see an average ND team a touchdown favorite, it pisses me off a bit. But it's all good. I know there's Cards fans that are ND fans as well. I hope it's a clean game with no serious injuries.

Go Cards!

TheRealVille said:

ND has injuries as well. All football teams have injuries so all teams are not 100 percent? I disagree with the notion Cards are not 100 percent. Thompson is not the best WR, Turner is not the best RB.

We pretty much know the only position that would mean not 100 percent is at QB. Brohm has not established a backup QB that can be trusted to perform well enough to win. Cards have good depth everywhere else.

As for ND being fired up, so what? Louisville will be fired up as well. This game comes down to who has the better team and I believe that is Louisville. That doesn't guarantee victory of course, but I will be highly disappointed if the Cards lose. If we can't win road games against overhyped teams like ND, a ACC championship or playoff appearance will not happen.

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I’ve been wondering about Pierce. Does anyone know how he’s been progressing? Is he on track to potentially step in at quarterback next year? If Brohm goes and gets another transfer QB, I don’t think that’s a good sign

earsky said:

Sorry I triggered you mate 😅
Not here to argue with UofL fans,so bet the mortgage by all means. Seems a little fishy,huh?

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You didn't trigger me. No one has. I knew before the line came out ND was going to be respected over Louisville. I was prepared to make this point when the line came out at - 6. It's just ridiculous.

And I'm not going to bet the game. I don't like betting on the Cardinals for obvious reasons. Who wants to be twice as mad when your team loses?

So far, most media pundits like Louisville in this game and it's for the reasons I've stated. They're not actually saying it, but they're asking how is ND favored by a TD?

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