Those kids only give a damn about getting picked high in the draft.
And why trade a spot on one SEC basketball roster for another one? Isn't that like trading one junk car for another junker?
"Elite program", my a$$...
UK basketball lack of discipline
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And why trade a spot on one SEC basketball roster for another one? Isn't that like trading one junk car for another junker?
"Elite program", my a$$...
The problem with those kids is sure they are the man on that team but they don't get as recognized as those who play for bigger schools. Not just saying uk but ul as well. Until last night I never watched rabb and brown they are both studs yet they aren't one of the first teams shown on ESPN. Lsu won't make the tournament. Same can be said for a lot of those kids who wanted to be the man. In the nba, very few teams have the man that stands out but it took them years to do so. These guys don't face the top talent they could be exposed to but it sets them back by playing Mediocre talent in non conference play. Yes there are plus and minuses, but I think the risk is worth the reward to sacfrice a few minutes if it will improve your game and make you look better. After all, the nba does draft mainly on potential
ast years team made history and was within an eyelash of doing something unprecedented. How can anyone find anything to criticize? I mean sure you can criticize but that would be silly. That's some serious nit- picking
You mean the guy who is playing in Latvia? Coach Gary wacker at St Charles HS is credited with developing Josh's skills where he went from not playing until hew was a FR to Allstate as a JR and a SR. As a Gillespie recruit, calipari played him very little but only got a chance when Kanter's ineligibility. Sound familiar? Cmon don't you even know your own players? I guess not, they're not there long.
You're just consoling yourself with that LPT "history" talk...
Last year's team won every game except the one that mattered most. And the average LPT fan thinks it lost BECAUSE of the Twins playing when they shouldn't have--the subject of this thread.
Still just one championship with A-L-L of that wasted talent.
"Elite program", my a$$...
Super bowl? No. UK just has a better team every year. By this logic I guess Kentucky is Louisville's Super Bowl in football every year. You've been owning us in football but that's just because we are your guys super bowl, right Zipp? It couldn't possibly be because you have a better squad, could it?
Let me ask a slappy this question... Do you honestly believe that your 2013 NIT team was three points worse than U of L's national championship team playing at our house? Do you believe that in a seven-game series at a neutral site, your average team would win six? (Hell, you can't do that against pitiful SEC teams.)
Since you're an LPT fan, you probably do. But there's your Super Bowl.
Your football team sucks so bad that any decent team can run off a big winning streak. That's not a valid comparison. Put another way, U of L basketball is a helluva lot better than LPT football.
Super Bowl, slappy. Super Bowl.
"Elite program", my a$$...
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I enjoy butting heads with zipp and don't always agree with him, but I can admit he has supplied some pretty convincing evidence that the U of L game means a lot more to UK than it does the other way. Even as a UK fan I have to wonder how we can consistently beat U of L and other teams in the OOC, make deep runs every single year, yet lay eggs in the SEC. The only logical reason is that we get up for U of L and other big games, but sleepwalk through the SEC schedule. Frankly, it's probably because for the most part, we can, and sometimes it costs us. Look at just a few weeks ago - we took Kansas to OT at their place, where they never lose, and followed it up 2 days later with an absolute stinker @ Tennessee. U of L is definitely, at the very least, an AFC championship game to us. Super Bowl I believe is copyrighted
Mind you, I'm not necessarily proud of the fact that LPT gets up to beat U of L more than the other way around. But it is what it is, and I'm willing to acknowledge it. There's really no other rational way to explain it.I enjoy butting heads with zipp and don't always agree with him, but I can admit he has supplied some pretty convincing evidence that the U of L game means a lot more to UK than it does the other way. Even as a UK fan I have to wonder how we can consistently beat U of L and other teams in the OOC, make deep runs every single year, yet lay eggs in the SEC. The only logical reason is that we get up for U of L and other big games, but sleepwalk through the SEC schedule. Frankly, it's probably because for the most part, we can, and sometimes it costs us. Look at just a few weeks ago - we took Kansas to OT at their place, where they never lose, and followed it up 2 days later with an absolute stinker @ Tennessee. U of L is definitely, at the very least, an AFC championship game to us. Super Bowl I believe is copyrighted
And I'm agreeing with your coach that there are teams that get up big time to beat you--as examples, most SEC teams playing LPT--and that makes a difference. He calls it "Super Bowl", and I agree with that reference.
"Elite program", my a$$...
All U of L teams have higher goals than beating LPT that are drilled into their heads. I enumerated these athletic departmental priorities awhile back, and winning the LPT basketball game was like ninth on the list--and behind winning, for example, an ACC championship in just about any sport. The LPT games for the U of L coaches involved have become a distraction, and I think most U of L coaches would tell you that the "rivalry" has outlived its usefulness in their sport from U of L's standpoint. The only exception would probably be Petrino because of the difference between the two programs.
What has changed is a good question... U of L's program evolution as a national power is probably the biggest. And I think within the State, it's a bigger deal for most kids and teams to go up against U of L. People wanna beat LPT because of old history and arrogance; they wanna beat U of L because they're the trend-setter in most sports, at least locally.
And to reiterate my prior point, there's no other rational way to explain, for example, the performance of either of LPT's basketball teams against U of L. Even the LPT football team does better against U of L than it should. U of L has clearly had the better team the last two years AND Petrino on the sidelines. Yet, both games were competitive into the 4th quarter. Again, don't tell me your NIT team was legitimately three points worse than U of L's championship team ON THE ROAD. That dog don't hunt.
At least I have eyes, a nose, and a mouth.
"Elite program", my a$$...
The core topic in this thread is to argue that UK has no discipline. But Zipp you continue to remind us all that Louisville can't get up for its biggest rival. That's a disciplined club right there. Hmmmm.
Let's not forget those two games in the ncaa tourney with all the marbles on the line. You still want to say that your club didn't care?
As far as the evolution of your program. I don't know man. Judging by what's happened recently I might re-think that stance.
Discipline is taking care of your business OFF the court. And how your coach deals with you when you don't.
Both of those LPT teams in the NCAA had at least five 5-star kids IIRC. U of L had maybe one in total.
Slight difference.
"Elite program:, my a$$...
But... You just said UK had to play a super bowl to beat us in the regular season but then in the NCAA, they simply had better players? Did I miss something or didn't those same guys play in both games? Which is it, inquiring minds want to know?
Ok so in the regular season Kentucky wins because Louisville doesn't care as much about the game. In the tournament Kentucky wins because they recruit better. I suppose they are both valid points.
Yeah, but that's not what the thread's about, slappy. You having trouble staying on topic?...
When the teams are close in talent, intangibles like effort matter a lot. If there's an overwhelming talent difference, it doesn't. Is that hard to understand?
"Elite program", my a$$...
I never said which game was explained by what. You partnering up with slappies now?...
Now Zipp,
You know I have never agreed with the super bowl theory. And sometimes they do make good points because some of your arguments or explanations don't hold water, only in your mind. I've noticed how you detract from certain things and it takes you awhile to come up with a good response, sometimes with only an insult because well, you're Zipp.
You know I have never agreed with the super bowl theory. And sometimes they do make good points because some of your arguments or explanations don't hold water, only in your mind. I've noticed how you detract from certain things and it takes you awhile to come up with a good response, sometimes with only an insult because well, you're Zipp.
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