Top Twenty-Five Toughest Schedules

[Cardfan1963]

I love how UK fans always complain about how tough there schedule is. The thing is schedules, if they are to be considered tough, must be tough week in week out ( Granted everyone is going to have one of those teams). Not just 1 or 2 SEC heavyweights, then a few middling SEC teams, filed out with Cup Cake city. Again I always hear it, so where are they on this list?

Ranking College Footballs toughest schedules. Link

Bleacher Report
Bobby Petrino’s Louisville team had an impressive ACC debut. Although national observers might remember the Belk Bowl whipping that Georgia laid on the Cardinals, Louisville fans will remember nine wins and playing ACC Atlantic powers Clemson and Florida State very tough. Moving toward true ACC contention will be tough against a difficult 2015 slate.

Louisville opens 2015 with a brutal Georgia Dome opener against what should be an improved Auburn team, and even a visit from former AAC foe Houston and new coach Tom Herman won’t be an easy mark. That’s followed by a Thursday night visit from the Tigers’ high-powered offense piloted by star quarterback Deshaun Watson.

Louisville must travel to an improved N.C. State team and then Florida State, although a bye week between will help. The Cardinals end the season with trips to Pitt and then in-state rival Kentucky, which could be playing for its own bowl bid. Last season showed that Louisville shouldn’t be discounted, but will it show improvement against this slate?

I've also seen that a few of them posting that they had the 6th toughest schedule in the nation last year. I believe that was in the SEC East. UK's actual schedule rank for last year was 25, while UofL's was the same as this years at 22. Link

 

[Senore2006]

Thanks so much for the facts and link, 1963. This must represent a watermark in the comparative SOS discussions between the UofL and UK fan bases. They are paying dearly for their urge to make a bowl game, lol, by scheduling cream puffs and dropping challenges.

For example, the truth is, they should play Western Kentucky often as heck, as should we.

 

[I am stupid]

I find SOS lists to be mostly a guessing game. How can we know how good a team is based on their previous years? Some teams who are expected to be better the next year are worse, and some who are suppose to be worse are better. There is no set way to determine SOS, everybody does it differently, so you can have completely different lists.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

Note: The NCAA method uses winning percentage of opponents, but now excludes records of FCS teams, FBS Transitional teams, and bowl games. The data below includes these three items.

1. Washington – 101-56, 64.33%
2. Arkansas – 99-57, 63.46%
3. Miami, FL – 97-58, 62.58%
4. Alabama – 96-58, 62.34%
5. Kentucky – 95-58, 62.09%
6. Purdue – 97-61, 61.39%
7. California – 95-61, 60.90%
8. Auburn – 92-60, 60.53%
9. Michigan St – 95-62, 60.51%
10. Texas A&M – 93-61, 60.39%
10. Georgia – 93-61, 60.39%
12. Virginia – 94-62, 60.26%
13. Maryland – 95-63, 60.13%
14. Kansas – 93-62, 60.00%
14. Georgia Tech – 93-62, 60.00%
16. Boston College – 91-62, 59.48%
17. Iowa State – 92-63, 59.35%
17. BYU – 92-63, 59.35%
19. Utah – 93-65, 58.86%
20. Minnesota – 90-63, 58.82%
21. USC – 91-65, 58.33%
22. South Carolina – 89-64, 58.17%
22. UConn – 89-64, 58.17%
24. Tennessee – 89-65, 57.79%
25. Clemson – 88-65, 57.52%
26. Texas Tech – 89-66, 57.42%
26. Mississippi State – 89-66, 57.42%
28. LSU – 87-65, 57.24%
29. Vanderbilt – 87-66, 56.86%
29. West Virginia – 87-66, 56.86%
31. Michigan – 88-67, 56.77%
31. Arizona State – 88-67, 56.77%
33. Ole Miss – 87-67, 56.49%
33. Western Michigan – 87-67, 56.49%
35. Utah State – 88-68, 56.41%
36. SMU – 85-66, 56.29%
37. Stanford – 87-68, 56.13%
37. UNLV – 87-68, 56.13%
39. Colorado – 94-74, 55.95%
40. Florida State – 85-67, 55.92%
41. Florida – 86-68, 55.84%
42. Ohio State – 86-69, 55.48%
42. Washington State – 86-69, 55.48%
44. UTSA – 84-68, 55.26%
44. Texas – 84-68, 55.26%
46. Virginia Tech – 86-70, 55.13%
47. Southern Miss – 83-68, 54.97%
47. Louisville – 83-68, 54.97%

 

[zipp]

I find SOS lists to be mostly a guessing game. How can we know how good a team is based on their previous years? Some teams who are expected to be better the next year are worse, and some who are suppose to be worse are better...

The problem for an LPT fan is that logic cuts other ways....

The LPT basketball team last year was lauded (mostly by LPT fans) in the preseason for scheduling the likes of Carolina, Louisville, Kansas, and UCLA. By season's end, only one team on their 35-game schedule was ranked in the Sagarin Top Ten (Carolina at #10).

And I still maintain that's the biggest reason LPT flamed out. They had a hyperinflated image of how good their basketball team was.

Glad U of L fans don't have to worry about that--now, in either sport.

LPT Football: Wish we played our basketball team's schedule...

 

[Cue Card]

I find SOS lists to be mostly a guessing game. How can we know how good a team is based on their previous years? Some teams who are expected to be better the next year are worse, and some who are suppose to be worse are better. There is no set way to determine SOS, everybody does it differently, so you can have completely different lists.

http://www.fbschedules.com/2015/03/2015-college-football-strength-of-schedule-ncaa-method/

Note: The NCAA method uses winning percentage of opponents, but now excludes records of FCS teams, FBS Transitional teams, and bowl games. The data below includes these three items.

1. Washington – 101-56, 64.33%
2. Arkansas – 99-57, 63.46%
3. Miami, FL – 97-58, 62.58%
4. Alabama – 96-58, 62.34%
5. Kentucky – 95-58, 62.09%
6. Purdue – 97-61, 61.39%
7. California – 95-61, 60.90%
8. Auburn – 92-60, 60.53%
9. Michigan St – 95-62, 60.51%
10. Texas A&M – 93-61, 60.39%
10. Georgia – 93-61, 60.39%
12. Virginia – 94-62, 60.26%
13. Maryland – 95-63, 60.13%
14. Kansas – 93-62, 60.00%
14. Georgia Tech – 93-62, 60.00%
16. Boston College – 91-62, 59.48%
17. Iowa State – 92-63, 59.35%
17. BYU – 92-63, 59.35%
19. Utah – 93-65, 58.86%
20. Minnesota – 90-63, 58.82%
21. USC – 91-65, 58.33%
22. South Carolina – 89-64, 58.17%
22. UConn – 89-64, 58.17%
24. Tennessee – 89-65, 57.79%
25. Clemson – 88-65, 57.52%
26. Texas Tech – 89-66, 57.42%
26. Mississippi State – 89-66, 57.42%
28. LSU – 87-65, 57.24%
29. Vanderbilt – 87-66, 56.86%
29. West Virginia – 87-66, 56.86%
31. Michigan – 88-67, 56.77%
31. Arizona State – 88-67, 56.77%
33. Ole Miss – 87-67, 56.49%
33. Western Michigan – 87-67, 56.49%
35. Utah State – 88-68, 56.41%
36. SMU – 85-66, 56.29%
37. Stanford – 87-68, 56.13%
37. UNLV – 87-68, 56.13%
39. Colorado – 94-74, 55.95%
40. Florida State – 85-67, 55.92%
41. Florida – 86-68, 55.84%
42. Ohio State – 86-69, 55.48%
42. Washington State – 86-69, 55.48%
44. UTSA – 84-68, 55.26%
44. Texas – 84-68, 55.26%
46. Virginia Tech – 86-70, 55.13%
47. Southern Miss – 83-68, 54.97%
47. Louisville – 83-68, 54.97%

THE perfect example of how to distort stats to make a point. I'm not buying it.

Did you not consider that one of the reasons UK is ranked in the top 5 on that list is because UofL won 9 games? Does it not also ring true that another reason UofL is 47th on that same list is because UK won just 5 games? That's a 4 game swing just between the 2 programs.

 

[I am stupid]

THE perfect example of how to distort stats to make a point. I'm not buying it.

Did you not consider that one of the reasons UK is ranked in the top 5 on that list is because UofL won 9 games? Does it not also ring true that another reason UofL is 47th on that same list is because UK won just 5 games? That's a 4 game swing just between the 2 programs.

I'm not sure what your point is with this. Of course we bring your SOS down and you raise ours using those metrics. Again, I have no clue where you are going with this.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Some people take the message board way too seriously. They really hate Zipp, they come at him personally so strong. The guy pokes fun @ the team they root for, his style, while different than most, still conveys the same message basically that many posters on their forum have towards Louisville.

I don't get it. What's with the absolute hate?

What am I missing? Can't they respond to his posts without insulting him directly?

 

[Cue Card]

I'm not sure what your point is with this. Of course we bring your SOS down and you raise ours using those metrics. Again, I have no clue where you are going with this.

I believe you. Obviously you're just living up to your moniker. You posted flame bait. I bit at it, and now you want to play stupid.

Good for you.

 

[johnnyrockets]

I love how UK fans always complain about how tough there schedule is. The thing is schedules, if they are to be considered tough, must be tough week in week out ( Granted everyone is going to have one of those teams). Not just 1 or 2 SEC heavyweights, then a few middling SEC teams, filed out with Cup Cake city. Again I always hear it, so where are they on this list?

Ranking College Footballs toughest schedules. Link

Bleacher Report
Bobby Petrino’s Louisville team had an impressive ACC debut. Although national observers might remember the Belk Bowl whipping that Georgia laid on the Cardinals, Louisville fans will remember nine wins and playing ACC Atlantic powers Clemson and Florida State very tough. Moving toward true ACC contention will be tough against a difficult 2015 slate.

Louisville opens 2015 with a brutal Georgia Dome opener against what should be an improved Auburn team, and even a visit from former AAC foe Houston and new coach Tom Herman won’t be an easy mark. That’s followed by a Thursday night visit from the Tigers’ high-powered offense piloted by star quarterback Deshaun Watson.

Louisville must travel to an improved N.C. State team and then Florida State, although a bye week between will help. The Cardinals end the season with trips to Pitt and then in-state rival Kentucky, which could be playing for its own bowl bid. Last season showed that Louisville shouldn’t be discounted, but will it show improvement against this slate?

I've also seen that a few of them posting that they had the 6th toughest schedule in the nation last year. I believe that was in the SEC East. UK's actual schedule rank for last year was 25, while UofL's was the same as this years at 22. Link

You should post WildCard's take on the schedules. The numbers you quote are from the old method of rating by one service. All others have UK a fair margin ahead of UofL. The "official" NCAA method (flawed as it may be) is what had UK 6th and UofL 80th last year.

 

[johnnyrockets]

THE perfect example of how to distort stats to make a point. I'm not buying it.

Did you not consider that one of the reasons UK is ranked in the top 5 on that list is because UofL won 9 games? Does it not also ring true that another reason UofL is 47th on that same list is because UK won just 5 games? That's a 4 game swing just between the 2 programs.

The NCAA method is oversimplified, but removing UK from UofL's schedule and vice-versa, the difference goes from 62.1-55.0 to 61.4-56.1. Which would put UK at 5th (still) and UofL at 39th.

All that said, UofL's schedule this year is as legitimate as I can remember. The opportunity to prove it is there for you guys.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

The opportunity to prove it is there for you guys.

Louisville has nothing more to prove than any other competitive football program has to prove. Louisville has proven plenty over the years, the program has finished ranked in the polls for multiple years in a row, and produced a lot of NFL talent.

What is the "it" you are referencing Louisville has an opportunity to prove here?

The only group of fans that think Louisville has something to prove is fans of you know who.

 

[tkdcoach]

The NCAA method is oversimplified, but removing UK from UofL's schedule and vice-versa, the difference goes from 62.1-55.0 to 61.4-56.1. Which would put UK at 5th (still) and UofL at 39th.

All that said, UofL's schedule this year is as legitimate as I can remember. The opportunity to prove it is there for you guys.

rockets, the problem with your world view is it just doesn't match the facts about the old Big East (esp. before WVU exited) and our SOS over the last decade--and that's even given notable dodges (e.g. teams that backed out of contracts because we were strong...such as UGA, but there were others). The Big East had a VERY good OOC record and say whatever you want about ACC football today...it's pretty much the old Big East + FSU + Tobacco Road. Don't get me wrong, I too believe the overall difference is an improvement, but not because the core BE was "weak" from the limited perspective of what happened to the Big East (and that was about $$$ not a reflection on quality).

 

[johnnyrockets]

Louisville has nothing more to prove than any other competitive football program has to prove. Louisville has proven plenty over the years, the program has finished ranked in the polls for multiple years in a row, and produced a lot of NFL talent.

What is the "it" you are referencing Louisville has an opportunity to prove here?

The only group of fans that think Louisville has something to prove is fans of you know who.

Wasn't meant as a shot, really. I think if UofL had made the championship game in 2013, as an example, an argument could have been made that they wouldn't have really "proven it" (I'm aware this example cherry picks the weakest schedule in recent memory--not coincidentally it was also one of two years where a CG appearance was a legitimate possibility).

All I meant was that by scheduling Auburn in addition to two other traditionally strong programs and a handful of capable teams, UofL has upgraded the schedule. Louisville has had the good fortune (resulting from astute management to be sure) of upgrading the schedule as their team and program have improved.

 

[johnnyrockets]

rockets, the problem with your world view is it just doesn't match the facts about the old Big East (esp. before WVU exited) and our SOS over the last decade--and that's even given notable dodges (e.g. teams that backed out of contracts because we were strong...such as UGA, but there were others). The Big East had a VERY good OOC record and say whatever you want about ACC football today...it's pretty much the old Big East + FSU + Tobacco Road. Don't get me wrong, I too believe the overall difference is an improvement, but not because the core BE was "weak" from the limited perspective of what happened to the Big East (and that was about $$$ not a reflection on quality).

I mean, the Big East was either the 5th or 6th best football conference even before WVU left, no (don't forget that Miami, BC, and VT were long gone when UofL arrived)? Are you disputing that this year's schedule is the toughest you've played? What point of mine are you arguing here?

 

[Cue Card]

The NCAA method is oversimplified, but removing UK from UofL's schedule and vice-versa, the difference goes from 62.1-55.0 to 61.4-56.1. Which would put UK at 5th (still) and UofL at 39th.

All that said, UofL's schedule this year is as legitimate as I can remember. The opportunity to prove it is there for you guys.

Yet some how the Cards continue to beat UK year in, year out. 4 years in a row and counting. Oh the humility of it all.

BTW, I'm not going to pretend I even looked at the math involved regarding the SOS. The only thing that matters is the final score unless you enjoy moral victories. Then it's cool to be a UK fan.

 

[johnnyrockets]

Yet some how the Cards continue to beat UK year in, year out. 4 years in a row and counting. Oh the humility of it all.

BTW, I'm not going to pretend I even looked at the math involved regarding the SOS. The only thing that matters is the final score unless you enjoy moral victories. Then it's cool to be a UK fan.

You should let the OP know that SOS is irrelevant. He started the thread, not I.

 

[Cue Card]

You should let the OP know that SOS is irrelevant. He started the thread, not I.

It is irrelevant unless you're a UK/SEC fan then you have people like you and others balk at ANY type of data which might just tell a different story. You either start winning games or it doesn't much matter how tough the schedule is. You guys can bust on UofL's strength of schedule all you want but the bottom line is UK still hasn't been able to beat the Cards for 4 straight years in spite of playing against perceived better competition.

 

[thecycle21]

Preseason strength of schedule is a waste of time. Far too many variables.

Let's face it of the playoff teams only Alabama had a really strong strength of schedule. Ohio State was clearly the best team despite playing a weaker schedule. When any team goes 12-0, or 11-1 in any of the power 5 conferences they are legit. TCU and Baylor were both legit last year, but their SOS cost them a spot in the playoffs. SOS will become a very important factor in the future especially your OOC SOS.

The is significant difference in scheduling philosophy at UK and Louisville. UK is scheduling for wins. They have scheduled Eastern Michigan and Southern Miss in the future. They are counting on the SEC to prop up their strength of schedule. Louisville on the other hand is scheduling for the playoffs and a legit shot at a national title. Let's say Louisville goes 11-1 this year (not happening) they will be in the playoffs because their OOC SOS will be very strong.

As the Power 5 conferences continue to upgrade their schedules and talent continues to be more widely dispersed the opportunity to really compete for a playoff spot increases. It is going to be very hard to run the gauntlet or even finish the season with 1 loss. I think you will start seeing more teams with very similar records, 10-2, 11-1 competing for 4 spots. Your team better have a strong OOC SOS or they will be left out.

 

[I am stupid]

Please Cue Card, explain it to me. Type it slowly so I can understand. I can't figure out how I am distorting statistics when I copy and paste from a legitimate source. Furthermore, I understand that we hurt your SOS, but I'm not sure that is relevant in relation to me thinking preseason SOS is just a guessing game and something for fans to use as BS fodder.

 

[Cue Card]

Please Cue Card, explain it to me. Type it slowly so I can understand. I can't figure out how I am distorting statistics when I copy and paste from a legitimate source. Furthermore, I understand that we hurt your SOS, but I'm not sure that is relevant in relation to me thinking preseason SOS is just a guessing game and something for fans to use as BS fodder.

You either understand it or you don't. Everyone with a sliver of common sense knows that last years results and "strength of schedule" has NO bearing on the upcoming season. NONE.

That didn't stop you from posting the link though. Is that typing slow enough?

 

[I am stupid]

That was the point I was making... Which is why your post confused me. Bleacher report uses a formula that includes how teams did last year, as well as other factors. The SOS I posted was a simpler way to calculate it.

Both are BS as there is no way to determine how tough a schedule is until after a season. They are simply calculated predictions. Even after the season it will not be exact as teams are different from the beginning to the end.

 

[Cue Card]

That was the point I was making... Which is why your post confused me. Bleacher report uses a formula that includes how teams did last year, as well as other factors. The SOS I posted was a simpler way to calculate it.

Both are BS as there is no way to determine how tough a schedule is until after a season. They are simply calculated predictions. Even after the season it will not be exact as teams are different from the beginning to the end.

OK. I guess I'm the one who is stupid for not understanding your point of view. I admit all I really saw was you going to a rivals message board and disputing a post which shows your rival in a good light with a post and link showing your rival as inferior compared to the original post which was made by a UofL fan on a UofL message board.

I wonder how on Earth I could have been so confused about your intentions?

 

[beantowncard]

The NCAA method is oversimplified, but removing UK from UofL's schedule and vice-versa, the difference goes from 62.1-55.0 to 61.4-56.1. Which would put UK at 5th (still) and UofL at 39th.

All that said, UofL's schedule this year is as legitimate as I can remember. The opportunity to prove it is there for you guys.

The problem with last year's SOS was that Notre Dame got ravaged by injuries, and that UK was disappointing (again). If those two do their part, SOS goes way up, IMO.

 

[gg4uk]

I love how UK fans always complain about how tough there schedule is. The thing is schedules, if they are to be considered tough, must be tough week in week out ( Granted everyone is going to have one of those teams). Not just 1 or 2 SEC heavyweights, then a few middling SEC teams, filed out with Cup Cake city. Again I always hear it, so where are they on this

What do you mean by UK fans "Always"? Where are you seeing this? For this upcoming season I think UK fans pretty much agree that this season the schedule is VERY favorable.

By "always" do you mean... Since 1980? Since 2000? The last five years?

The argument about schedule strength is silly. But, this your thread and you can argue SOS if you want. But keep in mind that UL has played in extremely weak conferences over the years. With UL now in the ACC these arguments should begin to end from both sides of the rivalry. The differences in 20 vs 30 are about as subtle as can be. Possibly as subtle as one team playing more road games than the next team.

But, preseason SOS is insane to argue.

 

[American Male]

What do you mean by UK fans "Always"? Where are you seeing this? For this upcoming season I think UK fans pretty much agree that this season the schedule is VERY favorable.

By "always" do you mean... Since 1980? Since 2000? The last five years?

The argument about schedule strength is silly. But, this your thread and you can argue SOS if you want. But keep in mind that UL has played in extremely weak conferences over the years. With UL now in the ACC these arguments should begin to end from both sides of the rivalry. The differences in 20 vs 30 are about as subtle as can be. Possibly as subtle as one team playing more road games than the next team.

But, preseason SOS is insane to argue.

So, Louisville played in a weak conference, yet as a whole, the Big East had the BEST OOC and Bowl Records of ALL the Power Conferences against the OVER-RATED SEC...Louisville and West Virginia won 5 BCS Bowls...Two against the ACC (Clemson and Wake Forest)...Two against the SEC (Florida and Georgia), and One against the Big-12 (Oklahoma)...How can that be if the BEAST was such a "Extremely Weak Conference"!?!?!?

All we EVER hear from UK and SEC Fans is: Florida didn't want to be in the Sugar Bowl playing LOWLY Louisville...Alabama didn't want to be in the Sugar Bowl (Against either LOWLY Utah, or Oklahoma)...So what excuse is being USED for Alabama's loss to Ohio State...A team that a 6-7 Virginia Tech Team went into Columbus and beat by 14 points!?!?!?

How about LSU losing to Clemson and Notre Dame (Injury Riddled), BACK to BACK...Or an OVER-RATED Ole PI$$ getting CURB STOMPED by TCU...Same thing concerning Mississippi State getting beat by Georgia Tech...Or an AAC Central Florida Team beating BAYLOR in the Fiesta Bowl!!!

You may want to call the conferences that Louisville has been in weak...But according to RESULTS, those conferences Louisville was once a part of have OWNED the SEC, and have competed VERY WELL against the other Power Conferences!!!

 

[Cardfan1963]

Note: The NCAA method uses winning percentage of opponents, but now excludes records of FCS teams, FBS Transitional teams, and bowl games. The data below includes these three items.

You should post WildCard's take on the schedules. The numbers you quote are from the old method of rating by one service. All others have UK a fair margin ahead of UofL. The "official" NCAA method (flawed as it may be) is what had UK 6th and UofL 80th last year.

The NCAA poll is flawed in every way possible. Much as the way govern most things. To use that is at best laughable.

 

[gg4uk]

So, Louisville played in a weak conference, yet as a whole, the Big East had the BEST OOC and Bowl Records of ALL the Power Conferences against the OVER-RATED SEC...Louisville and West Virginia won 5 BCS Bowls...Two against the ACC (Clemson and Wake Forest)...Two against the SEC (Florida and Georgia), and One against the Big-12 (Oklahoma)...How can that be if the BEAST was such a "Extremely Weak Conference"!?!?!?

All we EVER hear from UK and SEC Fans is: Florida didn't want to be in the Sugar Bowl playing LOWLY Louisville...Alabama didn't want to be in the Sugar Bowl (Against either LOWLY Utah, or Oklahoma)...So what excuse is being USED for Alabama's loss to Ohio State...A team that a 6-7 Virginia Tech Team went into Columbus and beat by 14 points!?!?!?

How about LSU losing to Clemson and Notre Dame (Injury Riddled), BACK to BACK...Or an OVER-RATED Ole PI$$ getting CURB STOMPED by TCU...Same thing concerning Mississippi State getting beat by Georgia Tech...Or an AAC Central Florida Team beating BAYLOR in the Fiesta Bowl!!!

You may want to call the conferences that Louisville has been in weak...But according to RESULTS, those conferences Louisville was once a part of have OWNED the SEC, and have competed VERY WELL against the other Power Conferences!!!

Dude seriously,
That's not even worth reading. There is no way you want to compare CUSA and The Big East to the SEC. West Va and UofL were the only respectable teams in those leagues on a consistent basis.

The ACC is a solid league. But, seriously don't measure leagues based on single games being played. You are going to embarass your self if you pull out the "exceptions".

I mean seriously, look at the last few years of the BigEast/AAC Power teams vs Power5 teams not in the BigEast from 08'~12' .(UL, UC,Rut, WV, UCON, USF, UCF

22 wins
36 loses

*** Overall vs. the three winningest basketball schools of all time (UK, KU, UNC) the record was 4-10.

Please don't tell me how great the BigEast was in a couple of games unless you want to see the big picture.

Be proud of where you are. But, if you can't see where you came from you'll never appreciate where you are now.

 

[American Male]

Dude seriously,
That's not even worth reading. There is no way you want to compare CUSA and The Big East to the SEC. West Va and UofL were the only respectable teams in those leagues on a consistent basis.

The ACC is a solid league. But, seriously don't measure leagues based on single games being played. You are going to embarass your self if you pull out the "exceptions".

I mean seriously, look at the last few years of the BigEast/AAC Power teams vs Power5 teams not in the BigEast from 08'~12' .(UL, UC,Rut, WV, UCON, USF, UCF

22 wins
36 loses

*** Overall vs. the three winningest basketball schools of all time (UK, KU, UNC) the record was 4-10.

Please don't tell me how great the BigEast was in a couple of games unless you want to see the big picture.

Be proud of where you are. But, if you can't see where you came from you'll never appreciate where you are now.

So, you're NOT willing to consider the records of the "RESPECTABLE" AAC/BEAST/CUSA Teams against the SEC or other Power Conference, yet you're MORE than WILLING to BRAGG about the "RESPCTABLE" SEC Teams...When they win...And make EXCUSES when they LOSE!!!

The pre poached BEAST more than held its own against the SEC, and for the years Louisville was in it they had an overall winning Bowl Record...Didn't Pitt CURB STOMP Kentucky in a Bowl!!!

You say that one shouldn't focus on "Single Games", yet, UK Fans and other SEC Teams are more than WILLING to BRAGG about "ONE GAME" (UK vs. FSU with 19 Starters SUSPENDED), if it benefits them...Yet you're also WILLING to OVERLOOK the records of the DREDGE Teams in the SEC..."Kentucky being one of them"...when it comes to records against other P5/G5 Teams!!!

While Louisville was in the BEAST, the BEAST BCS Bowl Record was 5-3 against the other P5 Conferences...This is the 3rd year for the AAC...In its FIRST year Central Florida KICKED an OVER-RATED Baylors @$$ in the Fiesta Bowl...So its record against P5 Teams in a BCS Level Game is 1-0...Thus those conferences Louisville was in went 6-4 in BCS Bowls!!!

Anyone can Cherry Pick the stats concerning the bottem of ANY Conference...Lets see you lay out the FACTS concerning Arkansas (Pre/Post Petrino), Miss St., Ole PI$$, Tennessee, UK, Vandy since 2006...Or since Louisville 1st year in the BEAST!!!

Can-SUC-Me has been in the SEC since inception, and has been a WELFARE CELLAR DWLLER for 95% of the time its been there...While Louisville has NOT only been competitive in each conference, they've won several conference titles in them!!!

Instead of TRYING to BELITTLE what Louisville has accomplished, TRY and HUMBLE yourself and GIVE CREDIT where its due, and FOCUS on the OVERALL FAILURE of the Keentucky Football Program...AFTER all, you were BORN with "THE SILVER SPOON" in your mouths...And you've put out a BABY$#IT Product for damn near 80 years!!!

Too bad conference won't KICK OUT Teams like Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky etc... and replace them with teams (Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, East Carolina etc...), that have PROVEN that they don't just want a FREE TIT TO SUCK ON...They want an HONEST CHANCE to COMPETE and WIN at the Highest Level!!!

 

[valley St. Card]

You can't compare Apples and Oranges. You just can't do it. The SEC is the premier league in football. But they were down considerably last year. See Bama loss to OSU. S Carolina had the worse football team in their history. Ditto LSU and even Auburn lost there last 5 out of 6 games. Apples and Oranges!

 

[CATFANFOLIFE87]

I would rank the conferences

1. SEC
2. PAC 12
3. Big 12
4. Big Ten
5. ACC

A case could be made to move the ACC to 4th. I think it's a very close call there. The SEC isn't far and away the best conference anymore but it is still the best. There isn't as much separation between the best conference and the worst one as there once was

 

[tkdcoach]

I would rank the conferences

1. SEC
2. PAC 12
3. Big 12
4. Big Ten
5. ACC

A case could be made to move the ACC to 4th. I think it's a very close call there. The SEC isn't far and away the best conference anymore but it is still the best. There isn't as much separation between the best conference and the worst one as there once was

If they'd dump UK and Vandy they would be far and away the best again. Really.

But since conferences include bottom halves (and in the case of the SEC East...several teams that are barely FCS level players) the weaklings of the SEC are as weak as in any conference including the American Athletic Conference.

ACC will be just fine over the long haul.

 

[American Male]

I would rank the conferences

1. SEC
2. PAC 12
3. Big 12
4. Big Ten
5. ACC

A case could be made to move the ACC to 4th. I think it's a very close call there. The SEC isn't far and away the best conference anymore but it is still the best. There isn't as much separation between the best conference and the worst one as there once was

I'd rank them like that too...From the MOST OVER-RATED to the LEAST RESPECTED!!!