Having consensual sex is not the issue what makes this situation what it is involves recruits young high school and college athletes on a major university campus. Regardless of what happened it's just not acceptable by the NCAA rules. I don't think the NCAA truly gives a rats behind about the sex! But when it involves so called preceived extra benfits. As written by the rules then its a serous matter. We ust happen to be the school that is caught up in it.
Sweet Justice- Let the facts come out
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If the NCAA believes that McGee arranged this party, then we will get hit with penalties, plain and simple. So yes, her arrangement with Dre is a big deal if it truly took place. It all depends on what evidence the NCAA has [and what they choose to believe].
Crawford is coakroach for sure also his latest couple of pieces show he is trying to weasle back into the the good Card graces slowly.
It's not THAT big of a deal. I am serious when I say that too.
If you compare this with other issues the NCAA has let slide by, then this one here is miniscule .
People need to keep in mind that the UofL basketball program is a money making machine for everyone involved to include the ACC and NCAA. That means a lot. Why do you think the NCAA continues to just ignore the overwhelming success Calipari has had recruiting top talent each year without actually getting involved in how? He makes them money. That's why.
This whole saga has been about a money grab due to the fact UofL makes a ton of money in the first place. We can sit here and judge Mcgee, Powell, Pitino, Ramsey, and Jurich but in the end, NONE of what happens will matter all that much. The bottom line has and always will matter more.
UofL might get a slap on the wrist, but probably not. I suspect nothing comes of this. This will simply become a non issue and go away with Powell ending up behind bars for extortion.
I think this is most likely scenario. Part of the issue is that we live in a society where everyone wants to be first. They dont take their due diligence to discover facts, check on discrepancies, they just report on what is immediate.
Most of us here have been diligent. Let the facts play out. As they do, we see more and more holes, its not the scandal everyone wants it to be. Sorry UK fans.
This article should be the death rattle of Powell. We will see her in prison like Sypher.
No, in their suit, THEY are upset at Powell saying they committed a criminal act. Of course the questions will come up. They are fundamental to the suit. We all realize this is a civil suit. That makes it worse, not better. The rules of evidence are much lower. You may need to reread what they said and what I said. I am quite clear on what is going on. You are wrong in your last sentence. They don't have to prove anything. As you correctly noted, ths is a civil case. It will be won by a preponderance of evidence. Proof isn't required.
The criminal case against Powell will be presented soon, in fact between the last week of December and the second week of January 2016.
This is great news. I think most all of the media needs to go in this town after this news.
I said all along to wait until the facts come out. I was called a homer, a troll, a UK fan posing as a UofL fan, an idiot, and so on but in the end, like always, once you let the facts come out, only then can you comment on the real truth. Those of you who have been keeping with the let the facts come out mantra, I think we have all been vindicated. I for one feel pretty good about that.
I said all along to wait until the facts come out. I was called a homer, a troll, a UK fan posing as a UofL fan, an idiot, and so on but in the end, like always, once you let the facts come out, only then can you comment on the real truth. Those of you who have been keeping with the let the facts come out mantra, I think we have all been vindicated. I for one feel pretty good about that.
UPDATE: Hour 7 of hunger strike until Bozich is fired. Made it through lunch. However, just found out wife is cooking stew for dinner. Wife makes great stew. Hunger strike will now be postponed until after dinner. Since hunger strike is postponed I'm going to have a Snickers Bar to get me thru to dinner. I sure hope Bozich is fired soon because otherwise I'm going to put on a few pounds.
In reality you don't even have proof a party took place. You're choosing to believe certain players while ignoring other ones saying differently. You're kind of connecting the dots imagining it COULD happen. That's how the game is played. Sorry you didn't know that. The first to market concept renders your brain useless.
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if some are celebrating it's because there's a difference between getting the death penalty or getting scholarship reduction or getting fined or getting some kind of wrist slap or some other kind of punishment.. If any. There is a huge difference between an impermissible legal benefit (stripping) and something that is against the law (prostitution)
I ultimately don't want the current or future kids affected by this. I want the truth but these kids don't need to pay for it.
I think it is funny when people use ESPN as a reliable news source. Remember ESPN did a lengthy report on the Duke scandal which turned out to be false.
Heard a small town local UKKK fanatic on the radio this morning and he was getting a chubby by making fun of these ladies names, like everyone blue has anglo names like Irene and Sue.
These small blue arseholes are passing out form the blood rushing to there micro p e n i s e s, latching onto anything they can to laugh at our program. Makes me want to put a dent in their brainpan.
These small blue arseholes are passing out form the blood rushing to there micro p e n i s e s, latching onto anything they can to laugh at our program. Makes me want to put a dent in their brainpan.
I know. I was asking cardiotonic who said the criminal case would be presented late Dec to mid Jan.
Why would she be wearing orange for that. Everything you mentioned would be civil, not criminal.
Heard a small town local UKKK fanatic on the radio this morning and he was getting a chubby by making fun of these ladies names, like everyone blue has anglo names like Irene and Sue.
These small blue arseholes are passing out form the blood rushing to there micro p e n i s e s, latching onto anything they can to laugh at our program. Makes me want to put a dent in their EMPTY brainpan.
Fixed it for you
if you are asking a specific person a question, you ought to address it to that person. You leave it open for anyone to answer, or to miss your intent
They were back to back so I guess I thought it was clear. Quoting does help.
Not to get off topic, but fredburgcard might be my favorite poster of all time.
I wish nothing but the best for you my friend. 7 hours with just a doughnut? Eat your wife's stew.
Just call a timeout, eat the stew, and go back to fasting.
Good luck. If you need help, call a timeout tomorrow and I'll start a go fund me for you. Pizza, burgers, steak, etc...
We'll get you fed.
I wish nothing but the best for you my friend. 7 hours with just a doughnut? Eat your wife's stew.
Just call a timeout, eat the stew, and go back to fasting.
Good luck. If you need help, call a timeout tomorrow and I'll start a go fund me for you. Pizza, burgers, steak, etc...
We'll get you fed.
Sure, lets discuss that, if you'd like. It's a very interesting rumor to say the least. Doesn't have anything to do with your current, more relevant scandal, but I'll play along.
Heard a small town local UKKK fanatic on the radio this morning and he was getting a chubby by making fun of these ladies names, like everyone blue has anglo names like Irene and Sue.
These small blue arseholes are passing out form the blood rushing to there micro p e n i s e s, latching onto anything they can to laugh at our program. Makes me want to put a dent in their brainpan.
Not only has 'their' attempt to take out UofL failed, but to exhibit more racism.
Pathetic Americans.
I don't think ESPN would have devoted as much time as they did without their being something being given up. I did see where Blakeney now says he spoke with them and told them the truth whatever that may be. He in my opinion, is the key to this whole thing. It's obvious from the book that this is the father/son combo that they allegedly had their party with. I do know this, the NCAA goes by no one's clock but their own. I find it troubling that the University has had their own investigation going on for over 3 months now. How long does it take to find nothing and say so? One a brighter note, glad to hear the great news on Kyle Kuric. Hope to see him back playing ball as quickly as possible.
Yeah, that would be weird for a media outlet to shoot first and ask questions later.
Actually Blakeney isn't the key to the whole thing - quite the opposite. Whatever happened with he and his guardian has little if anything (particularly from a provable standpoint) to do with Louisville.
1. He was not in town for a visit to UofL - he was here for an AAU tourney.
2. McGee was not an employee of UofL at this point.
3. There is no evidence at this point beyond Powell's "word" that the wire transfer to her from McGee was for having sex with Blakeney et al - and there's no way Blakeney could corroborate her story.
pretty much where I stopped reading.
Damn, that statement right there is spot on in so many ways, including ways not related to this story. We don't need a sarcasm font to understand this.
Does it register with you that the two groups of testimonies have vastly different circumstances surrounding them? You have one group who was granted anonymity to protect them from reprise/reputation damage and another group (presumably who love UL and want to be welcome there) who were mostly asked on the spot by reporters, unprompted, sometimes with a camera in their face.In reality you don't even have proof a party took place. You're choosing to believe certain players while ignoring other ones saying differently. You're kind of connecting the dots imagining it COULD happen. That's how the game is played. Sorry you didn't know that. The first to market concept renders your brain useless.
IF it were true, do you really not see how the latter group would be incentivized to lie? Especially considering the majority of responses from that group weren't even willing to give real denials, but responses like "I hope not" or "I was at my girlfriend's place" or "I'll address that when the time comes"?
I mean, at the end of the day even the most diehard Card fans aren't denying that
a. there were women we know to be prostitutes
b. hanging out with the players in Minardi Hall, and that
c. Andre Mcgee is the link between said prostitutes and the players.
So forget the guys ESPN interviewed talking about Andre handing out bills to players or talking about having sex afterwards. Leave aside the texts about paid shows that ESPN's team traced to a phone number owned by Andre Mcgee. Presume the 200 bucks wired to her was for groceries.
Even if none of that was dug up, wouldn't Andre Mcgee simply bringing prostitutes into Minardi Hall still be a huge mess? Would you expect any rational third party with no ties to UK or UL (say, a man from China who had never heard of college basketball) to believe that no money was exchanged and that everyone was limited to good-ol' NCAA sanctioned PG-13 entertainment?
I'll ask you the same question - Does it register with you that the two groups of testimonies have vastly different circumstances surrounding them?
You have one group who was approached by the NCAA, told a story and asked to corroborate it. Oh yeah, let's don't forget that this group is still under the authority of the NCAA and they were threatened with the possibility of being deemed having received "impermissible benefits" jeopardizing their eligibility and being on the wrong side of the NCAA if they didn't cooperate. When you then add in the anonymity and immunity - you don't think that is an incentive to lie and simply say yes?
People gauging a situation and then saying whatever is the most personally expedient thing. That never happens though - right?
Also, beyond the Powell family (and who the hell knows what they'll say next) the majority if not all, of the other women named are suing for defamation stating they are not prostitutes - so you need to reexamine your certitude on that as well.
Please tell me how you know for sure that these women that were at these parties were known prostitutes? Did you not read the original post where women that are listed in the book are suing Katina because they AREN'T prostitutes?
There has been only 1 known prostitute that we know of in this story, and that's Katina's daughter, who has said that she doesn't supported the books claims and that Katina never made her do anything. Not saying she is telling the truth, just relaying what she has said.
So saying that there were known prostitutes at these parties is your assumption and not a fact.
For those of us who cannot watch DRB, can you tell us what was in those texts? Does it contain the smoking gun?
I absolutely could not resist that last sentence, given the poster's handle
I absolutely could not resist that last sentence, given the poster's handle
In today's world of instant news, it's all about the money. SO easy to make big bucks, easy money off of incidents like this where it is played out in front of the public vs behind closed doors and settled.
Everyone of those women are just about making money off this. They probably sit around laughing about it. What can we do next. They have been plotting and scheming this since 2010. It's happening and they are making moves as their game plays out.
Even if convicted of prostitution it just verifies part of the game and ups the future earnings. After all this is over (weather it's true or not) the real book money comes. Made for TV movie. Talk shows.........
And if convicted they will not get much time. Hos never do.
After all this is over they will need a six month vacation so what a better place to meet with their agent and attorney then in the visiting room to plan how to go after all the money.
Wonder how much they have already made, if they have been offered big advances for the rights to different opportunities...
Either outcome they make out. I'm not underestimating them just yet.
I've intentionally stayed out of this matter ever since the 'news' broke. This will just become fodder for opposing fanbases.
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