Louisville Women are The Sixth Seed
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Yes. We start Thursday with a bye. Play the winner of Clemson vs Stanford. We win we get Duke and if we were to beat Duke will get ND
Someone please explain why UL is 6th, as that is what ESPN’s regular season standings show this morning? UNC, UL and FSU each tied with conference records at 13-5. UL defeated FSU in their head to head matchup, FSU defeated UNC, and UNC defeated UL; so all three are 1-1 in that 3 way face off. be ahead of FSU.
It appears that UL “got the short end of the seeding process”, when examining all of the numerical available data that is published. NCST and ND tied with 16-2 conference records, but NCST gets #1 as a result of having defeated ND, despite all of the other numerical data favors ND. So what was used to determine that UNC and FSU each are above UL?
This leads me to the AP rankings, as I have yet to see any published Strength of Schedule ratings that at one time was used to play a significant influence in both rankings and seeding for tournaments. Just for those interested, no team in the ACC played as many games involving top 25 AP rated teams as UL, with 12 (4-8). UNC played 8, and FSU only played 6. ND comes closest with 11, while NCST only played 9.
Aside from ACC conference games, UL played UCLA, UConn, Oklahoma and UK. If you look at the AP rankings as of this morning, UL played 5 of the top 10 teams.
It appears that UL “got the short end of the seeding process”, when examining all of the numerical available data that is published. NCST and ND tied with 16-2 conference records, but NCST gets #1 as a result of having defeated ND, despite all of the other numerical data favors ND. So what was used to determine that UNC and FSU each are above UL?
This leads me to the AP rankings, as I have yet to see any published Strength of Schedule ratings that at one time was used to play a significant influence in both rankings and seeding for tournaments. Just for those interested, no team in the ACC played as many games involving top 25 AP rated teams as UL, with 12 (4-8). UNC played 8, and FSU only played 6. ND comes closest with 11, while NCST only played 9.
Aside from ACC conference games, UL played UCLA, UConn, Oklahoma and UK. If you look at the AP rankings as of this morning, UL played 5 of the top 10 teams.
In the case of a 3-way tie where the head to head round robin is also tied, you go team by team down the standings to break the tie.
In this case, we start with the teams tied at the top of the standings (NC State and Notre Dame). UNC is 1-1 against those teams, having beaten NCSt. FSU is also 1-1, having beaten Notre Dame. UofL loses that tiebreaker and is eliminated because we went 0-3 against those teams.
The tiebreaker rules explicitly state that you do not break the ties before applying this rule, so the fact that NC State is the 1-seed and ND is the 2 doesn’t matter. Because they both finished 16-2, you consider all games UofL, FSU and UNC played against those two teams when applying this tiebreaker.
It is unfortunate for the UofL women that the tiebreaker doesn’t consider that the tie between NC State and Notre Dame is already broken, because if we just consider our games against NC State, UNC wins that tiebreaker and takes 4th, and UofL then gets 5th based on our head to head win over FSU.
Thanks Pushup; the issue is that ESPN has seeded UL 6th, not 5th. That is what I find disconcerting
That’s because we ARE the 6th seed. We were eliminated in the 3-way tiebreaker because we went 0-3 against NC State and Notre Dame, while FSU and North Carolina went 1-1. So we get assigned the 6 seed, and then FSU wins the head to head against UNC to take the 4-seed.
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Totally expect to see our WBB team in the semis against ND. Third time is never a charm. My money is on our ladies to reach the finals.
That would be great and I hope it happens. However, I think UND is just more talented and has depth of talent. Assuming they win their first game and assuming Duke advances…that will be a very tough game. Duke is good and UofL played extremely well to beat them before. If the Cards can win two games I think would be a success.
Let’s make this the de facto ACCT thread….
6 minutes left in the 4th quarter of the 12 seed (BC) versus 13 seed (Syracuse) game. Cuse 62, BC 60. Going to be a tight one, and the winner gets 5th seeded North Carolina tomorrow.
Interesting … the. Cuse just whipped BC by 25 on Sunday. And earlier in the year BC beat Cuse by 41! Makes complete sense that this one is a nail biter!😂
6 minutes left in the 4th quarter of the 12 seed (BC) versus 13 seed (Syracuse) game. Cuse 62, BC 60. Going to be a tight one, and the winner gets 5th seeded North Carolina tomorrow.
Interesting … the. Cuse just whipped BC by 25 on Sunday. And earlier in the year BC beat Cuse by 41! Makes complete sense that this one is a nail biter!😂
One observation about WBB; there are very few upsets.
Frankly, I really like CJW, as he beat Duke and FSU late in this season and came relatively close to beating a superior talented UNC team. We lost twice to both ND and NCST, and being perfectly honest; I cannot imagine beating either one of those teams regardless of how many times that we would play them; as they are just that much more talented than we are. I see both joining UNC as ACC teams that can rival UConn, South Carolina and LSU this year in the tournament.
Frankly, I really like CJW, as he beat Duke and FSU late in this season and came relatively close to beating a superior talented UNC team. We lost twice to both ND and NCST, and being perfectly honest; I cannot imagine beating either one of those teams regardless of how many times that we would play them; as they are just that much more talented than we are. I see both joining UNC as ACC teams that can rival UConn, South Carolina and LSU this year in the tournament.
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