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From TheRealVille “I think team chemistry is the issue and HVL is a big part of it. I think that's why her game has struggled lately as she's been told there's some grievance against her from some teammates. I don't know for sure, it's just my speculation.” I think your speculation is off base.
 
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MWatson: could not agree more with your comment questioning those who think we might be better without HVL; as clearly she is the leader of this team, and without her we would not have won the 14 games prior to our win at Syracuse.

With that said, today’s 3rd and 4th quarter served as evidence that sometimes the “go to Star” needs to sit on the bench. CJW knows these kids extremely well, and he recognized that Hailey was struggling with her game; not just shooting the ball, but she was slow in passing out of the double teams. The opponents are focusing on HVL every offensive set in virtually every game, and you can hear Jeff telling her that she needs to recognize the double-teams before she dribbles into it, as someone else is unguarded.
 
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Every game she is double teamed and sometimes triple teamed. I noticed today even no she was of her game they tripled teamed he 3 times. She needs to take what she can get and not force it and her shots will come to her. CC has been off the past 2 games as well that is why I thought the substitutions today were critical.
 
Walz's depth with this team is the best chance to turn things around. He needs to play Harris more than Cochran, play Russell and Konno more than Jones.

But that's easier said than done because Cochran and Dixon on experienced veterans and Jones is the big time transfer. Russell, Konno and Robinson all have a better hoops IQ than those who start over them.

I think team chemistry is the issue and HVL is a big part of it. I think that's why her game has struggled lately as she's been told there's some grievance against her from some teammates. I don't know for sure, it's just my speculation.

These things when they do happen usually occur during the middle of the season and once post season is close, players usually let go of any grievances so not to get knocked out early in March. Coach Walz has his hands full this season.
Your observations are correct. Harris should have been playing more minutes all season. I love the defensive trapping, that gets Kasa in a flow and her ability to see the floor involved the bigs as our two miniature shooting guards are not playmakers and struggle with that. Coach said before the game he wants to see more ball movement and less one on one, and I think we did that with Kasa in the game driving and breaking down the defense.

HVL is the team leader but she has poorly led the team from an efficiency stand point. Your not the first to have observed her disconnect with teammates. I’ve called for Coach to sit her in many games because seeing things from the bench can help re set your intentions and reacclimate yourself to what’s happening. Carr is not a playmaker either, and it’s been frustrating seeing our bigs calling for the ball but the guards refusing to dump down low and settle for jump shots. Today Kasa got them the ball.

Coach appears to finally see we aren’t winning without defense and getting our bigs involved. Hopefully we turn things around and make a run to end this season.
 
The problem with our bigs is they can’t catch the ball and when they do they can’t make layups. That is why it was refreshing to see Harris in there playing the minutes she played. In regards to our guards none of them are big but I have to give HVL and Kasa credit because both of them grab rebounds.
 
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From TheRealVille “I think team chemistry is the issue and HVL is a big part of it. I think that's why her game has struggled lately as she's been told there's some grievance against her from some teammates. I don't know for sure, it's just my speculation.” I think your speculation is off base.
Well, I could be wrong but something is interfering with the team chemistry. Also, in no way do I agree we're better off without HVL. She's a warrior and a team leader. It's very difficult to perform at the top of your ability for the entire season. Those who do it the best use their athleticism which is something HVL doesn't have a whole lot of.

I think when the team wins some big games closer to the post season, her competitiveness will have her back making big plays and making big shots.
 
Well, I could be wrong but something is interfering with the team chemistry. Also, in no way do I agree we're better off without HVL. She's a warrior and a team leader. It's very difficult to perform at the top of your ability for the entire season. Those who do it the best use their athleticism which is something HVL doesn't have a whole lot of.

I think when the team wins some big games closer to the post season, her competitiveness will have her back making big plays and making big shots.
OMG! Now you say she lacks athleticism? Do you even watch all of the games or do you just pick and choose? Hailey has made some incredible shots over the last 3 seasons and like it or not she is the National face of our program and one of the Top 10 players in women’s college basketball. Incredible.
 
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I'm hoping this is a game we can look back and said there is where we got back to being U of L WBB. Some positives we can hope happen is that this team now understands we don't need to fully depend on HVL. However, the other players have to realize they need to step up their games and play hard all the time they are in the game. I think Walz has been giving Cochran all the opportunity to turn into that player that brings 10-12 pts and 8-10 rebounds a game but it's not happening. Time to give Harris more opportunity. As far as team chemistry issues, I would say that in a way, CJW has confirmed that to a point. However, he made a point in his presser to say its not all on Van Lith. Also I don't think Walz would sacrifice his team for an individual. If HVL was the issue, why did he not start Carr and Jones??? Carr needs to play with the same energy that Casa and Konno bring. Casa and Konno need to understand that not only do we need their hustle and defense, they also need to show they can score as well. I think they are both too unselfish. Love the way, we were pushing the ball up the court. Go Cards!
 
There are just some of our fans don’t like her and I don’t understand that. I agree she is one of the top women’s basketball players in the country. Like you said she is the face of our program and because of her we get a lot of national attention in a down year. I also agree as posted earlier if it wasn’t for her we would probably be experiencing a losing season.
 
Love HVL, she’s always hustling and working to improve. She is definitely struggling from the 3pt line this year (and even worse lately) - only shooting 24%.
 
I cannot imagine where we would be at this time without HVL; she has been playing most of this season up to 40 minutes a game and gives it all on both ends. She can create her own shot, something that separates her from so many.

Robinson at point guard might be the difference for this team that Jeff was looking for, as her 12 assists not only resulted in better offensive efficiency for the team, it takes a lot of pressure off both Carr and HVL having to handle the ball so much. You could see Syracuse struggling to defend in our half court offense.

Harris, Russell, Konno and Williams are starting to contribute more, and that means there are 9 players capable of being in the rotation …….. something Jeff has slowly gained confidence in over the last few weeks.
 
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Your observations are correct. Harris should have been playing more minutes all season. I love the defensive trapping, that gets Kasa in a flow and her ability to see the floor involved the bigs as our two miniature shooting guards are not playmakers and struggle with that. Coach said before the game he wants to see more ball movement and less one on one, and I think we did that with Kasa in the game driving and breaking down the defense.

HVL is the team leader but she has poorly led the team from an efficiency stand point. Your not the first to have observed her disconnect with teammates. I’ve called for Coach to sit her in many games because seeing things from the bench can help re set your intentions and reacclimate yourself to what’s happening. Carr is not a playmaker either, and it’s been frustrating seeing our bigs calling for the ball but the guards refusing to dump down low and settle for jump shots. Today Kasa got them the ball.

Coach appears to finally see we aren’t winning without defense and getting our bigs involved. Hopefully we turn things around and make a run to end this season.
I wish I could down vote this post... If Harris had played more consistent, she would have gotten more minutes. Poorly led the team... sheesh. Glad Coach Walz doesn't listen to you.. CJW does realize this team is based on defense and will be the difference maker. He just needs to get everyone on the team to play defense.
 
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OMG! Now you say she lacks athleticism? Do you even watch all of the games or do you just pick and choose? Hailey has made some incredible shots over the last 3 seasons and like it or not she is the National face of our program and one of the Top 10 players in women’s college basketball. Incredible.
Come on now, you know what I mean. HVL is a great player but she's not athletic like say, Morgan Jones. She doesn't rely on natural athleticism, she does it with playing hard and smart.

So once again, I'm a big fan of HVL and this team has no chance without her. She's a true leader, a true warrior on the court. She's not going to outjump anyone or speed past defenders, but she's going to grind opponents down with her constant effort.

So there's no need to call me out as some hater of HVL. That's not true. I've been amazed many times in her three seasons here at Louisville.
 
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I know you are not "an HVL hater" Realville, but I do believe HVL qualifies as athletic ...... her "spin move" and cross-over dribble serves as "sufficiently athletic" in my opinion. As far as comparing to Morgan at 6'1" tall; remember HVL is only 5'8" tall, and that 5" difference makes a difference in terms of elevation.
 
I wish I could down vote this post... If Harris had played more consistent, she would have gotten more minutes. Poorly led the team... sheesh. Glad Coach Walz doesn't listen to you.. CJW does realize this team is based on defense and will be the difference maker. He just needs to get everyone on the team to play defense.
What do you consider to be consistent? Her 64% shooting from the field, which is 12% higher than Cochran, 7% higher than Dixon and 15% higher than Williams? Or the fact her first start produced 18pts, 6 reb with 3 Blks. Nice to see you conveniently left out “poorly led team from an efficiency point of view” regarding HVL.

Leadership yesterday came from Kassa, she put that team on her back and willed them to victory. She made the team better by getting the bigs the ball for easy baskets.
 
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I know you are not "an HVL hater" Realville, but I do believe HVL qualifies as athletic ...... her "spin move" and cross-over dribble serves as "sufficiently athletic" in my opinion. As far as comparing to Morgan at 6'1" tall; remember HVL is only 5'8" tall, and that 5" difference makes a difference in terms of elevation.
Okay guys, whatever. I played a little hoops in my day and I had a pretty good crossover and could make reverse layups and was also a pretty good shooter. I'm only 5'9 and have never been able to touch the rim or jump over anybody. I wasn't particularly quick either and was never considered athletic.

What I'm saying about HVL is she can't rely on jumping and quickness. She uses her left handed shot to her advantage and her court awareness to find a open shot. She plays as hard as anyone and is active most of the time and that makes her a good rebounder.

A similar example on the men's side is Luke Hancock who himself will admit he's strong suit is not his athleticism. Yet, he was the final 4 MVP 10 years ago.

Teams are starting to take away HVL's drive to her strong side, forcing her to take tougher shots and her 3 point shot has been erratic. She will make the adjustments because she works hard and loves the game.
 
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What do you consider to be consistent? Her 64% shooting from the field, which is 12% higher than Cochran, 7% higher than Dixon and 15% higher than Williams? Or the fact her first start produced 18pts, 6 reb with 3 Blks. Nice to see you conveniently left out “poorly led team from an efficiency point of view” regarding HVL.

Leadership yesterday came from Kassa, she put that team on her back and willed them to victory. She made the team better by getting the bigs the ball for easy baskets.
Harris is consistent... with the minutes she plays. She averages 4.8 ppg and 3.2 rebs. I think she's 8th in minutes played and 8th in scoring average. She also only shoots 51% at the foul line which makes her a liability in close games at the end. She only has 9 assists, which is lower than the other bigs and also has 24 turnovers which is about the same as Kasa and Dixon. She just hasn't separated herself... yet. I agree Kasa had a good game, actually a career game in assists. As I said, this team will be better when the other players step up. Oh by the way consistency is scoring nearly 20 pts per game and you failed to mentioned that although HVL is only shooting 24% from 3pt, thats the 3rd highest on the team behind players that play valuable minutes. Carr is best and Konno is 2nd but Konno plays less minutes than Harris.
 
I guess it gets back to definition of athletic, or even degree of athleticism. I am not sure what more HVL needs to do on the court to qualify as athletic, as she hands out assists, she rebounds, she shoots off the dribble, she finishes on her drives to the basket, and she gets her share of steals.

I know Jeff has her working on reducing her number of turnovers, but as far as her shooting percentage, I think she is just struggling with defenses focusing on her with double and even some triple teaming when she is driving into the paint.
 
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No I didn’t mention the almost 20 ppg, but I also intentionally didn’t mention she’s missed more shots than the next scorer has taken, or the 4.1 To’s or 24% shooting from 3pt land. Coach Walz has to take some responsibility for not demanding the same level of responsibility of protecting the ball to her that he chews every other player out for making the same mistakes.
Harris is consistent... with the minutes she plays. She averages 4.8 ppg and 3.2 rebs. I think she's 8th in minutes played and 8th in scoring average. She also only shoots 51% at the foul line which makes her a liability in close games at the end. She only has 9 assists, which is lower than the other bigs and also has 24 turnovers which is about the same as Kasa and Dixon. She just hasn't separated herself... yet. I agree Kasa had a good game, actually a career game in assists. As I said, this team will be better when the other players step up. Oh by the way consistency is scoring nearly 20 pts per game and you failed to mentioned that although HVL is only shooting 24% from 3pt, thats the 3rd highest on the team behind players that play valuable minutes. Carr is best and Konno is 2nd but Konno plays less minutes than Harris
 
I guess it gets back to definition of athletic, or even degree of athleticism. I am not sure what more HVL needs to do on the court to qualify as athletic, as she hands out assists, she rebounds, she shoots off the dribble, she finishes on her drives to the basket, and she gets her share of steals.

I know Jeff has her working on reducing her number of turnovers, but as far as her shooting percentage, I think she is just struggling with defenses focusing on her with double and even some triple teaming when she is driving into the paint.

I think HVL benefited tremendously playing in the 3pt league this past Summer. She is deadly from two point range and driving, with the tear drop pull up. She didn’t have that shot last year. Very crafty in getting her shot off. I’ve no clue on why she can’t hit a three this season.
 
She’s hit plenty of 3’s this year she is in a 2 game slump right now. CC was 1 for 5 from the 3 point line against Syracuse so by your assessment CC should have been on the bench but it didn’t happen.
 
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She’s hit plenty of 3’s this year she is in a 2 game slump right now. CC was 1 for 5 from the 3 point line against Syracuse so by your assessment CC should have been on the bench but it didn’t happen.
CC is shooting 48% from 3pt range. And HVL is in a 3 game slump. Unfortunately, probably the worst three gsme stretch of her career. I would imagine she comes out on fire the next game. She hasn’t went this long in a slump since freshman year.
 
HVL is so good that when she doesn’t score 20 points she is in a slump. CC was shooting 48% before the Syracuse game because she was struggling with her shot against Syracuse. I have to ask this question since you are so negative towards HVL but is this a racial issue for you?
 
HVL is so good that when she doesn’t score 20 points she is in a slump. CC was shooting 48% before the Syracuse game because she was struggling with her shot against Syracuse. I have to ask this question since you are so negative towards HVL but is this a racial issue for you?
Why would it be racial? Is it racial with you that you can’t offer constructive criticism when she’s not playing well?

I’ve only spoke of facts mentioning HVL.

She was pre season 2nd team All American. She’s the leader of the team, one that was preseason Top 5 and currently on the bubble. As the leader she has accountability. This is NOT a talent deficient team.

You are quick to criticize every player on the team other than HVL, what’s your reasoning?
 
You only post negative facts and you ignore the positive facts always. The players you prop up don’t have the same positive stats so you ignore that part of it. I am trying to figure out why you always look for the negative with almost every post you make about HVL. Dana went through a 6 game slump last year right before the tournament but you never posted anything negative about it.

We will have other players that have a good game every 4th game and you talk about how good they are and they should be playing more. HVL is the best player on this team and that is pretty obvious just look at the stats for the whole year and that is a fact.
 
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I am quick to criticize every player on the team that is funny. I do post things like we can’t make layups, how come our bigs don’t rebound better, there is no movement everyone is standing around. Which was confirmed in the game against Syracuse when Kasa had to yell at CC to move.
My criticism is based on an individual’s performance during the game HVL goes out and scores 24 points, 6 rebounds, 5 assists and 3 steals and you find something to criticize her for. So I am just trying to figure out why.
 
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I like HVL as a player and competitor. But she leads this particular team. She’s as accountable as Dana was her last season here.

And just an FYI, Dana played two seasons ago and yes she was criticized as well, she led the team.
 
I don’t remember Dana being criticized everybody kept hoping she would pull out of her slump. In the future when you use your so called facts use the whole picture not just the part you want to emphasize. When you use just part of the facts it is to easy to call you on it.
 
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Ok, got to weigh the in. Athleticism - her stats don’t equate to her athleticism. Is she athletic - absolutely. Are Liz and Olivia athletic - somewhat. I think the comment relates to someone like Jazz. She was uber-athletic. That really enhanced what she did. However, her basketball skills pale in comparison to HVL (IMO). Earlier on in this drawn out thread the issue of HVL sitting for a while when she is/was struggling came up. May I remind some folks this is the topic that initiated some stress in this board because several people suggested she needed to rest and others got really upset. No player is above taking a seat to rest; whether they are struggling or not. Personally I want her on the floor as much as possible 36 minutes a game seems very reasonable. I think everyone here is very reasonable and it is great these conversations are even being had about our WBB team. Do ya think anyone is discussing WBB like this in Lexington? Also, these comments are tame compared to some of the stuff in the Facebook groups - some of that stuff is crazy. One person pretty much blames all the on HVL and stated they hope she transfers! THAT ladies and gentlemen is nuts!
 
I, for one, hope HVL breaks out of her slump. In the meantime, she does need to ease up a bit and not force things. Do everything else she is good at doing - she’ll be fine. Players such as HVL want to perform so badly and that can be a negative at times if you aren’t playing as sell as you are capable. It is hard to turn off that drive as you want to lead your team and make plays. She is still a Jr and is still learning everyday. And yet, she is still considered one of the better players on the country.
 
I don’t remember Dana being criticized everybody kept hoping she would pull out of her slump. In the future when you use your so called facts use the whole picture not just the part you want to emphasize. When you use just part of the facts it is to easy to call you on it.
Hahaha. I think I’ll post they way I post. I don’t need your approval on how I post. If you can’t handle facts then ignore the post.
 
I, for one, hope HVL breaks out of her slump. In the meantime, she does need to ease up a bit and not force things. Do everything else she is good at doing - she’ll be fine. Players such as HVL want to perform so badly and that can be a negative at times if you aren’t playing as sell as you are capable. It is hard to turn off that drive as you want to lead your team and make plays. She is still a Jr and is still learning everyday. And yet, she is still considered one of the better players on the country.
I agree, HVL is a Uber competitor. I wish we used her more as a playmaker than a straight up shooting guard. The first game of the year, that’s how she came out, and let the game come to her. But as the season has played out, we have only one other outside shooter so I think her struggle has compounded considering we have no other outside shooters. We had six shooters from deep last year, her early season struggle wasn’t in the spotlight as much as this season.
 
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I’m not ignoring the facts you are the one ignoring the facts. Like I posted earlier you only post the negative facts not the whole facts. You have posted earlier in the season that HVL was only 5’7” and she won’t make the WNBA which is a laughable comment. Then you posted that CC was the team leader and and how good she was but she is only 5’5”. I just wonder why 95% of your comments about HVL are negative?
Bardman, I agree with you I think it is good that there is so much passion for the women’s basketball team here in Louisville. If no one is talking about the team good or bad it means nobody is watching them. I like this team top to bottom and if they can listen to CJW we could make a good run in the tournament. It might play to our advantage to be the hunter instead of the hunted.

Mykasa had a great game against Syracuse in the 4th quarter she was the difference. I hope she can do it consistently. I liked how she was pushing the ball up court quick that played to our advantage. When we walk the ball up court it slows the tempo down and that is not to our advantage. By the way has anybody heard anything about Morgan?
 
I’m not ignoring the facts you are the one ignoring the facts. Like I posted earlier you only post the negative facts not the whole facts. You have posted earlier in the season that HVL was only 5’7” and she won’t make the WNBA which is a laughable comment. Then you posted that CC was the team leader and and how good she was but she is only 5’5”. I just wonder why 95% of your comments about HVL are negative?
Bardman, I agree with you I think it is good that there is so much passion for the women’s basketball team here in Louisville. If no one is talking about the team good or bad it means nobody is watching them. I like this team top to bottom and if they can listen to CJW we could make a good run in the tournament. It might play to our advantage to be the hunter instead of the hunted.

Mykasa had a great game against Syracuse in the 4th quarter she was the difference. I hope she can do it consistently. I liked how she was pushing the ball up court quick that played to our advantage. When we walk the ball up court it slows the tempo down and that is not to our advantage. By the way has anybody heard anything about Morgan?
And I stand by what I said. HVL will not make the WNBA as a 5’6 shooting guard. Coach is doing her a disservice by playing her at shooting guard. Your the one that looks at everything she’s done with rose tinted glasses. You’ve blamed every other player on the roster.

The only thing negative mentioned are her stats.

Do you think HVL is having a good season?
 
I don’t think you can comprehend what I am posting because I posted when you post about her you only post negative things. To answer your question yes I think she is having great year outside of the last 2 games. She is the leading scorer on the team, one of the top rebounders on the team if you don’t think she is having a good year then nobody on our team is having a good year. When I post a negative about a player it is usually during the game thread like everyone else. I am curios who do you think is the best player on the team?
 
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I do have another question for you if HVL s as bad as you say how come she just got names to the Wooden Award list?
 
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Slump? I know Kozmas understands but how can you overlook the fact that teams consistently double and triple team HVL? I don't care who you are that is frustrating for a player. Other teams have done it a lot this season but the Cards managed through a lot of it. For instance the game against GT, Morgan Jones had a hell of a game and we pull that out. Next game? She doesn't score 8 points. The slump has happened because other players have not stepped up on a consistent basis, which explained why Jeff benched CC and Jones. Now if Mykasa can continue to be an offensive threat and Harris an inside presence, then maybe some of the pressure is taken off HVL? Also my explanation of why we played better when HVL was sitting. Its because Syracuse like our few past opponents game plan to stop HVL. What happens when she wasn't on the court? Syracuse had to change their strategy and then didn't know who to key on. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. HVL will be back to her usual self when the other players find more confidence in their own game.
 
Who said she was bad? She started the season 2nd team pre season All American. She will NOT finish as a 2nd Team All American.

Her leadership and body language have been off this year. She’s playing like she’s not having fun.

I hope she lights up the last month of the season. Hopefully sitting out (last qtr of Syracuse) and seeing what her teammates can do changes her approach to the team.

And hopefully Coach can finally realize he doesn’t have to play her 40 min. She can come out when she’s playing bad and reset her game and refocus from the bench. This should have been done 20 games ago. This will take pressure off of her for thinking she has to carry the team. She needs to lead the team. This doesn’t mean taking bad shots and shooting bricks when the games tight, she’s good enough to get into the lane and dish to players who have better shots. This far along in her career she should be a playmaker that makes those around her better and making them pay when they lay off her.

She is a much better player than what’s been displayed this season to this point. Yes, she can score and can continue to score, she just needs to make better decisions. Coach needs to hold her accountable like he’s held every other player this season. She may be a practice beast but it’s all not carried over to games.
 
I am speechless by your post it is comical to say the least. I think you’re right in one regard HVL will not be a 2nd team All-American she will be a 1st team All-American. Mykasa ran the point to perfection she didn’t walk the ball up court like CC she ran the ball up court and that is a better tempo for us.


Like nccardfan posted HVL is being double teamed and sometimes triple teamed. Since we don’t have other prolific scorers on the team HVL is going to be the focus of opposing defenses. I watched the post game show with CJW after the game and HVL and some other players were in the background. HVL and the other players were laughing and having a good time it didn’t look like there was any problem with team chemistry. You can google CJW post game Louisville vs Syracuse and watch it yourself.
 
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