Jamari Johnson WTF…
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It’s today’s game.
No contracts. No reigns. Unlimited transfers.
Fans are screwed and, asked to pay for inconsistency
I don’t think anything surprises with the portal. You just don’t know the offers these kids are getting. He gets an offer better than what he currently has coming of an injury. That makes no sense to me.
I am not surprised we hardly used our tight ends why stay somewhere where you aren’t included in the system?
Besides Penn St-Iowa who really throws a ton to their tight ends? At most 7-8 targets a game. He was starting to get more and more involved up till his injury,
Warren at Penn St and the kid a BG are the best TE’s in the country. They both get around 5 catches a games.
It sucks because he was coming around into his own. His value was in the run blocking he was becoming a good blocker. The offense is going to be good without him.
Love to see what happens with him. I bet it is no different than here.
Warren at Penn St and the kid a BG are the best TE’s in the country. They both get around 5 catches a games.
It sucks because he was coming around into his own. His value was in the run blocking he was becoming a good blocker. The offense is going to be good without him.
Love to see what happens with him. I bet it is no different than here.
Geez 🙄 I wonder who paid for his knee surgery and rehab? GTFO 🤬
We should get reimbursed. Let his new school pay for his injuries. Ingrate…..
The entire NIL system has zero leadership. These conference commissioners have done zero to protect their institutions. The institutions complain but as long as their TV check comes in all good. They have allowed the players to control the narrative.
The school can’t do anything because optically it would look horrible.
A school can’t go rogue changing the NIL to only compensate for games played. Everyone in the market place would have to follow suit which isn’t going to happen. With zero guideline and decisions at the school level you have chaos.
Jamari was probably my biggest personnel pet and I think he is destined to be a great player; it should be pointed out that our competition to sign him wasn't the Southern California schools, it was Oregon. I believe his family relocated from Pittsburgh to Inglewood in high school and his mom is an educator.
Being hurt in the seventh game he has a handful of very impressive highlights so in a weird way someone can offer him an NIL bump but almost at a bargain. I really hope he reconsiders.
Being hurt in the seventh game he has a handful of very impressive highlights so in a weird way someone can offer him an NIL bump but almost at a bargain. I really hope he reconsiders.
Entering the Portal does not necessarily mean he leaves; it could be a way to do what virtually every single HS Senior and College player is doing ……testing the market.
I hate everything about this “de-amateur process”, but I am addicted to UL Sports, so I guess I am guilty of being a willing participant..
I hate everything about this “de-amateur process”, but I am addicted to UL Sports, so I guess I am guilty of being a willing participant..
I agree he is entering the market at a disadvantage. With that said I question the evaluation process of these teams with big budgets. It maybe a Godfather scenario make him an offer he can’t refuse. I don’t get it. He has 13 catches for 158 yds and he is coming off an injury.
Fascinated to see where he goes. Has to be a brand school.
Jamari's situation is not dissimilar to the concerns over Lacey's leaving; you didn't have alot of Caullin film at Louisville in four games, but the film you had showed some big time plays--the TD return against Miami, the huge catches against Notre Dame, the two third down catch-and-run to the sticks conversions at Virginia. In Jamari's case, the 29 yard seam route that showed great athleticism for a TE against Notre Dame and the middle screen against what I think was Georgia Tech or SMU that sprung for a big gainer but was called back due to ineligible men downfield. Those two plays in particular showed he wasn't some garden variety plodder out of the tight end position.
IT's not a WTF, he shares an agent with those other trouble makers. It was simple.
And this is the thing, he committed here under Satt and it was solely for NIL. He didn't come here for Brohm or love of the program. He's also injured and we don't know the time table on his recovery. He wants a big bag of cash. Jeff wants a healthy tight end and doesn't think it's worth it to put their money on a guy like him.
And putting money on a tight end when we need
1. A starting QB, which is expensive
2. like 5-6 guys in the secondary. We have to get a whole new room
3. REplacing what like 7-10 guys in the front 7
4. 1-2 Offensive linemen
Plus a lot of depth pieces. Paying him the money he wants to not produce when we have other needs just isn't the plan.
And this is the thing, he committed here under Satt and it was solely for NIL. He didn't come here for Brohm or love of the program. He's also injured and we don't know the time table on his recovery. He wants a big bag of cash. Jeff wants a healthy tight end and doesn't think it's worth it to put their money on a guy like him.
And putting money on a tight end when we need
1. A starting QB, which is expensive
2. like 5-6 guys in the secondary. We have to get a whole new room
3. REplacing what like 7-10 guys in the front 7
4. 1-2 Offensive linemen
Plus a lot of depth pieces. Paying him the money he wants to not produce when we have other needs just isn't the plan.
Every team in the country is going through this Arkansas has over 25 players in the portal. All of the teams in the SEC and B1G have players in the portal. If your coach is able to work the portal ( which I think ours is ) we should be able to get some good players.
We are hopefully getting a committment from the #8 transfer in the country, Purdue TE Max Klare. That may be why Johnson decided to transfer.
There is also the USC TE Duce Robinson who may be linked to the QB. Hes a 5-star recruit and a lot of scouts consider him more of a WR than a TE. He was one of Moss's favorite targets.
There is also the USC TE Duce Robinson who may be linked to the QB. Hes a 5-star recruit and a lot of scouts consider him more of a WR than a TE. He was one of Moss's favorite targets.
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I would be surprised if either come here. Klare is going to visit Texas. Good luck matching their offer if they really want him. Not sold on Louisville being able to pay both Moss and Robinson.
We will see. The SEC has FU money Louisville just has money. Louisville is the small market team that has to moneyball the shit of this. It is threading a needle.
An example the QB from freaking North Texas who is garbage, rumor is he asking 1M. North Texas had a really good offense his numbers are good but he isn’t P4 level. Moss is easily in the 3-4M range.
Johnson to Oregon would be my guess. They lose Ferguson.
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Not saying you're wrong, but Klare has some history with Brohm. It makes sense he's leaving Purdue, they didn't win a lot of games and consequently no exposure. Yes, Texas and the SEC has more money but each player still has to consider playing time so the question becomes do I get more NIL money to go sit behind someone like Helm, who is a senior and semifinalist for John Mackey award or do I go play for someone he knows will get him a chance to play right away and at least have an opportunity for more money and playing professionally?
The other thing you have to consider at someplace like Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio st, etc is that these schools are always looking and are usally able to go out and get who they want because of their name. I just don't think at a place like Louisville that Jeff is going to over recruit you unless you're not performing to his expectations. Thats where it is a two way street.
The system forces kids into seeing their value. On top of that their athletic window is small. 95 percent won’t go pro. Really the smartest thing to do is hit the portal every year. Now the trick is you have to produced but if you are productive hit the portal. No different than jobs it doesn’t pay to be loyal. You never maximize your value.
Kevin Coleman has played it about as good as you could. Jackson St-Louisville-Miss St-new place. He has increased his value each time. Hailey Van Lith played it pretty well too.
To your point going to Texas may not be the right move because his production may decrease. Which hurts him in the next cycle. Louisville actually could add value because he would be more productive therefore more leverage in the next cycle. It still is $$$ game.
Kevin Coleman has played it about as good as you could. Jackson St-Louisville-Miss St-new place. He has increased his value each time. Hailey Van Lith played it pretty well too.
To your point going to Texas may not be the right move because his production may decrease. Which hurts him in the next cycle. Louisville actually could add value because he would be more productive therefore more leverage in the next cycle. It still is $$$ game.
How do we know what these guys are getting paid? I suspect it is less than we think. Also, there’s more to a job than just money. What if these guys have an inkling they may not make the league and actually like the place they’re at for, dare I say it, academic reasons? Let’s say they like their professors, like their majors, like the continuity, like their coaches, the community, etc? Is it always that kids are total mercenaries? How much more can they actually pull? There has to be more to these decisions than “a few dollars more”.
I have an alternate take...what if you are reasonably sure you're not going to play Pro Football or play at a professional level regardless of sport. That's exactly what Van Lith did, maximizing her earning potential in college because when it's all said and done she is a 5"7 not exactly athletic shooting guard. If there is some sort of 3v3 league maybe she can earn off that, but moving forward she's not somebody that will have a career in the WNBA and her LSU stint made that abundantly clear.
The amount doesn’t matter what we do know they are making $$$. The owner of Barstool basically said they spent millions to get the freshman QB. Johnny football said they told Texas A&M his price was 2M-3M to keep him. The fact is it is a money decision.
When 90 percent of the SEC transfers that matter end up at another SEC school money is the deciding factor at least for the kids entering the portal.
Look at SEC basketball all of sudden they are dominating. Wonder why?
I don’t think they are all mercenaries but I think a high percentage are and I don’t blame them. Van Lith isn’t play pro but she has been very smart on maximizing this small window. Same with Johnson let’s say the difference was only 50K he still in a good spot for his skill while making more money.
Let’s say it’s 1 million vs 1.2 million. Let’s also say you are very likely to start next season and you really like where you are. I guess some would jump for that, but if that’s the basis of a decision I’m not sure I want that guy for a teammate.
200k for a kid and their family is like 5 year salary. Bottom line it is a lot of money for a lot of these kids.
I do agree if he made the jump to UK or a school that has zero offensive identity that would not be smart. Mainly because he would be hurting his future evaluations either in the portal or NFL. Oregon is a really good fit for him that hypothetical 200K makes the decision an easy one. Have to keep in mind Louisville may have been given the opportunity to match and decided not to.
I don’t think many of these deals are an indicator of the kids character. It is a business decision. The staff was apparently aware this was going to happen. I think what Boone and Barrow did last summer was an indicator of their or their agents character.
I do agree if he made the jump to UK or a school that has zero offensive identity that would not be smart. Mainly because he would be hurting his future evaluations either in the portal or NFL. Oregon is a really good fit for him that hypothetical 200K makes the decision an easy one. Have to keep in mind Louisville may have been given the opportunity to match and decided not to.
I don’t think many of these deals are an indicator of the kids character. It is a business decision. The staff was apparently aware this was going to happen. I think what Boone and Barrow did last summer was an indicator of their or their agents character.
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