I'm just curious to see the % of this poll.
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You probably should add the options...........
D) Understand financially you probably can't fire him for a few years, come to grips with that fact AND the fact this season is a bust, and hope to see a different product next season. If it's more of the same next season something has to happen.
E) Hope he reaches an agreement to settle to retirement at this season's end, or next season
F) Hope another program hires him.
G) Hope he breaks a character clause in his contract or something like that which allows termination without paying the buyout.
D) Understand financially you probably can't fire him for a few years, come to grips with that fact AND the fact this season is a bust, and hope to see a different product next season. If it's more of the same next season something has to happen.
E) Hope he reaches an agreement to settle to retirement at this season's end, or next season
F) Hope another program hires him.
G) Hope he breaks a character clause in his contract or something like that which allows termination without paying the buyout.
Too many trolls on a free board to get any true reading, if you're a premium member I'd post it there.
Obviously there are a number of caveats that I could add. I'm just looking for an idea of how many people are fed up, how many will stick with Petrino no matter how bad this season gets and how many will be fed up if the current trend continues this season.
Also...I don't know how much he's changed, but I can't see Bobby accepting a buyout no matter how much the current administration wants to fire him and there's a better chance of Nick Saban being the next coach at Louisville than there is someone hiring Petrino from a PR perspective, pay perspective, and fan revolt perspective.
Stay the course with him no matter what is a bad multiple choice option and should be completely removed. No UofL fan is going to choose that.
2 options is a true/false yes/no analysis.
As Rock mentioned too many Trolls around to get legit answers anyway.
Crap poll + crap audience = Crap results.
2 options is a true/false yes/no analysis.
As Rock mentioned too many Trolls around to get legit answers anyway.
Crap poll + crap audience = Crap results.
Stay the course no matter what is self explanatory I thought. Obviously its not to infer anything past this season. Basically if UL finished 2-10 you would still be all in on bringing Petrino back. Maybe that wasn't made clear enough though.
Finacially, the ULAD has little choice right now. When the fans stop showing up (and they will if losses pile up), then finacially the ULAD will have to reverse course and take the financial hit and fire him.
One thing I am 100% confident of. Bobby Petrino is not going to quit on his own. Why would he? He is under contract, and it's a very nice cushy contract with lots of incentives. No way he's just walking away from that.
One thing I am 100% confident of. Bobby Petrino is not going to quit on his own. Why would he? He is under contract, and it's a very nice cushy contract with lots of incentives. No way he's just walking away from that.
Well, you know it would become a discussion 
If Bobby sees the writing on the wall, and KNOWS he can’t turn it, he will offer to resign with a nice (not crazy) package.
He doesn’t want a “fired” on his resume, and he doesn’t want his family catching hell. (But then again, maybe he doesn’t care? She has had him by the short hairs)
If Bobby sees the writing on the wall, and KNOWS he can’t turn it, he will offer to resign with a nice (not crazy) package.
He doesn’t want a “fired” on his resume, and he doesn’t want his family catching hell. (But then again, maybe he doesn’t care? She has had him by the short hairs)
Not convinced he cares. He seems to have cashed it in (figuratively speaking for sure), and now he's just padding his golden parachute for retirement. He's been humbled as a person, but that also means his ego has been deflated. A deflated ego for a head football coach is a bad thing IMO.Well, you know it would become a discussion
If Bobby sees the writing on the wall, and KNOWS he can’t turn it, he will offer to resign with a nice (not crazy) package.
He doesn’t want a “fired” on his resume, and he doesn’t want his family catching hell. (But then again, maybe he doesn’t care? She has had him by the short hairs)
Well OP we don't need a poll to see how people feel when the program is down, and the guy just screwed up and cost the team a win.
A more interesting poll would be to examine the realistic actions to take at season's end with the assumption the season remains and ends in a bust. Which you sort of tried.
Bringing in salient talking points, like explaining the program isn't playing with monopoly money when it comes to these decisions needs to be part of the discussion.
But no biggie I'm sure the guy has tons of fans around here right now results should be intetesting!
A more interesting poll would be to examine the realistic actions to take at season's end with the assumption the season remains and ends in a bust. Which you sort of tried.
Bringing in salient talking points, like explaining the program isn't playing with monopoly money when it comes to these decisions needs to be part of the discussion.
But no biggie I'm sure the guy has tons of fans around here right now results should be intetesting!
LOL, no shit! As simple as this post is, it might be one of the best and most accurate/useful posts in the history of message boards.
If there weren't other circumstances involved. If this were simply a case of a good coach having an off year, he'd absolutely get another season to turn things around. But, we have Grissom, who is rumored to want to move on from Petrino as soon as opportunity knocks. We've got Tyra, a new AD who wants to put his stamp on the program, i.e, hire his own guy. We've got a fan base that his seen moments the last few seasons of "something's not right." Those "something's not rights" have come to fruition this year. All these things add up, but, of course, there's the money issue. But, I think that can be eventually resolved.
I don't blame Petrino for Saturday. Pass left 21 points on the field by not being able to hit wide open receivers down the middle of the field. 2 to Smith on different series and 2 to Dez on the same series. Petrino called the right plays and had the right people in place. Can't fault the coach that Pass missed every time.
Right now Pass has a QBR of 27.4 or something like that. He misses wide open receivers and looks like a deer in the headlights.
Right now Pass has a QBR of 27.4 or something like that. He misses wide open receivers and looks like a deer in the headlights.
Well, if he’s cashed it in per say, then there’s no incentive for him to try harder if he’s knows he going to leave, retire, get fired or resign at the end of his contract. Ironically our sermons these last few weeks has been about “coasting” in your religion but it also applies to other areas of life. is Bobby coasting? Give him the remaining year to show vast improvement, if not cut your losses and as I think Ghost said, money will work it’s way out.
The only other interesting circumstance is that you have an up and coming coach, who is revitalizing a power conference team who happens to have unbelievable family ties to the program that you can probably get now. ...but maybe not in a year or two.
Not one of the questions but as I said elsewhere - if Brohm is willing - you make the move. If not, you lay out the expectations / timetable to Petrino, and then do your best to help him achieve those goals.
Didn't vote, because my option is not there. It's kind of halfway between "stick with him no matter what" and "replace him at the end of the season if he finishes 3-9 or 4-8".
Basically, he gets to have one losing season, but if he has two in a row, we should buy him out and move on.
And oh by the way, if you think I'm being way too lenient, had we used that metric with Howard Schellenberger after he had rebuilt the program and won the Fiesta Bowl, he would have been replaced after the 1992 season, because he went 2-9 and followed that up with 5-6....
Basically, he gets to have one losing season, but if he has two in a row, we should buy him out and move on.
And oh by the way, if you think I'm being way too lenient, had we used that metric with Howard Schellenberger after he had rebuilt the program and won the Fiesta Bowl, he would have been replaced after the 1992 season, because he went 2-9 and followed that up with 5-6....
2-10, 3-9 or 4-8 is going to happen. Time to move on!
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I agree with this. I don't think you fire Petrino and just go out onto the market and hope you find a replacement. I think you back channel whatever coaches you're interested in and see what they say. If Brohm or Norvell or Venebles or whomever you want to get is willing to make the move right now then thats what you do. I think you have to know for certain who you're replacing Petrino with before you even think about replacing him.
Crazy to think about. I remember talking with my buddies that live in Louisville about the team in August and we all agreed that 7-5 would be the absolute worst case scenario for this team with 9-3 being an optimistic possibility and 8-4 being the likely outcome.
Also, I would be fully stunned if this team won more than 4 games. If I had to place a large chunk of money I would say they finish 3-9 but I also think there's a really good chance they lose to Ga Tech on Friday too just because of the physicality and weird offense they run so if they lose Friday then there's a chance they finish 2-10 with 0 wins against P5 competition....really, almost 0 wins against D1 programs in 2018.
Our football program was nowhere near the level that some of our fans think we are..
We’ve won a Sugar Bowl and a Orange Bowl and has a Heisman Trophy winner. We’re in a Power 5 conference. We want to continue up not down.
I'm just wondering when this program got to the level were we can demand a coach with BP record cannot have 1 losing season? Guess i missed read our FB history !
I think the move is about one guy and one guy only - Brohm. If he’s not interested, you’ve gotta try and make chicken salad for the next two years before you FAAAR that Petrino.
Lots of other factors at play here - you know that.
In which we have grown from almost not having a program period and giving away tickets at gas stations. FB is not like BB were one or two excellent recruiting classes can change a program. FB takes years to build a winning culture . I remember Clemson being horrible they have taken a steady climb to were they are. Alot of programs such as Miami,UCLA etc are still trying to get back to the top and they have fertile recruiting ground to do this. This program will never be a Alabama type period not enough recruiting talent to sustain at that level whatsoever . 7-5,8-4 9-3 is okay by me and their are going to be years like this also!
If louisville had even a Lefors caliber QB this team would be 4-1 and right where everyone thought they'd be. I don't think bobby has lost it or cashed it in. I just think he relies heavily on good qb play and this is easily the worst crop of QBs he's ever had on a roster. Mostly due to lack of experience, but not in Puma's case.. he's been in the program long enough to not be this bad.
I’m not in the fire Petrino camp, I’d love to see him turn this thing around. With that said he absolutely cost us the game on Saturday by not running the ball. If he calls the run at the end and we still find a way to lose then I’m singing a different tune. Obviously Pass through the interception, but with the way he played in the 2nd half why would Bobby put the game in his hands? Dumbest decision I’ve ever seen him make offensively.
Ok by you is not ok with others. It’s ok to want more. Complacency, just because you’re used it, not my thing. I mean, seriously. Being P5 changes everything. Mindsets need to change, too.
Results have turned out a little off from what I thought but overall decently close.
I assumed the 3rd option wouldn't gather the most votes but I was little surprised that the support Bobby option had as many votes as it does for various reasons. I would have predicted a 50/30/20 split with fire him if we only win 3-4 games being top, fire him and move on being 30 and keep him regardless being 20.
So, in conclusion....Bobby seems to have slightly more unwavering support than I thought. I'll keep the poll open and see if people change their vote either way after Friday's game.
I assumed the 3rd option wouldn't gather the most votes but I was little surprised that the support Bobby option had as many votes as it does for various reasons. I would have predicted a 50/30/20 split with fire him if we only win 3-4 games being top, fire him and move on being 30 and keep him regardless being 20.
So, in conclusion....Bobby seems to have slightly more unwavering support than I thought. I'll keep the poll open and see if people change their vote either way after Friday's game.
totally disagree. however, certain past high profile mistakes within our school and coaching have limited probably 20-30% on recruiting trail. in college a single coach can make a program. a one coach changes your cap as you say.
in all honesty, Lane Kiffin would be fun. he's finally matured enough and he's completely in tune with his kids. he wasn't ready for UT and USC and they taught him some things.]
finally what if brohm goes 3-7 this year?
I’m not on the same bandwagon that is has to be Brohm or nobody else. There are two issues. One is the unexplained decline of Bobby Petrino. All coaches fade away. Are these the signs that it’s happening. Do we do what we did with krapthorpe and let most of his contract play out? I saw enough in season 1 to know it wasn’t going to work out with him. I agree we give Bobby more rope but the results will be the same, you’re going to have to build back up however the program gets set back. CCS did it and I think there are great football minds out there that we just don’t how to seriously evaluate. Looks like we made a HR with Mack when quite a few thought we had to have a Wright, Donovan, Bennett.
I think there's some fundamental aspects of this discussion that the "keep Bobby" crowd who quote wins and losses and the "Its time to replace Bobby crowd" is saying that aren't coming across.
Its everything that goes along with Petrino that might be holding the program back. Not the wins and losses and its all of that "stuff" that surrounds Petrino that is putting the program behind the 8 ball when it comes to raising the stature of the program.
Louisville is in a great conference, gets to play FSU and Clemson every year, has great facilities and a great fan base and is located in a big enough city to attract recruits. Why not bring in a coach who is young, energetic and can build excitement around the program and make young kids want to come play for you? We need a coach that other coaches want to work with and for, one that inspires loyalty, one that can put together a great staff and keep that staff together.
For me, Petrino's recruiting goes a long way. He's never been a good recruiter and a huge part of football recruiting is the staff and Petrino's staff continues to be a patchwork of replacements and fired coordinators that are constantly changing. Our staff has no ability to build relationships and establish connections to good recruiting areas and I doubt there are many kids that come here and are "wow'ed" by Petrino's infectious and bubbly personality.
I don't know. Bottom line...its not all about wins and losses when we discuss replacing Petrino and I feel like both sides know that and yet we still fight about it.
Its everything that goes along with Petrino that might be holding the program back. Not the wins and losses and its all of that "stuff" that surrounds Petrino that is putting the program behind the 8 ball when it comes to raising the stature of the program.
Louisville is in a great conference, gets to play FSU and Clemson every year, has great facilities and a great fan base and is located in a big enough city to attract recruits. Why not bring in a coach who is young, energetic and can build excitement around the program and make young kids want to come play for you? We need a coach that other coaches want to work with and for, one that inspires loyalty, one that can put together a great staff and keep that staff together.
For me, Petrino's recruiting goes a long way. He's never been a good recruiter and a huge part of football recruiting is the staff and Petrino's staff continues to be a patchwork of replacements and fired coordinators that are constantly changing. Our staff has no ability to build relationships and establish connections to good recruiting areas and I doubt there are many kids that come here and are "wow'ed" by Petrino's infectious and bubbly personality.
I don't know. Bottom line...its not all about wins and losses when we discuss replacing Petrino and I feel like both sides know that and yet we still fight about it.
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