He should come out strongly against the NBA to Louisville. Protecting UofL's interests is now more important than ever before. I don't believe it's a coincidence this pro NBA contingency is doing this now during a dark era for UofL basketball. The NBA to Louisville would be a mighty blow to the program.
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No coincidence and I’m sure they’ve got their paws in it. I wonder if Grissom is involved?
I agree. Dan Issel who's heading it up was talking today how tight he and Grissom are. Can't blame any conspiracy theorists on this one. Screw the NBA. If it's bad for UofL I'm against it. There is no way this would help our program. Tyra hasn't got the nuts to oppose it, Grissom would can him. Tyra's a "yes" man.
I was listening to R&R and Issel was on. Sounded like to me he's in this to relive old glory days with the Kentucky Colonels. This isn't the 1970's, Dan.
And surely Dan needs to know before he goes ‘all in’, that there might be Mexican Americans attending those games as well.
I’m betting he’s low on cash, but that’s just a hunch. I’ll be damned if I’m working @ 69 years of age unless I have to. I know he was into horses years ago, not a cheap hobby.
The KHSAA has moved high school championships in football and basketball out of Louisville because people out in the state do not want to come here( supposedly). If they fear and/or dislike the big city and choose to not support high school athletes they sure as hell are not going to come to Louisville in large enough numbers to even have an impact on supporting an NBA team.
How is an nba team bad for UL? Serious question. I haven’t been following this.
I am a UofL fan and want a pro team here. Would rather have an NFL or Hockey team but this will do. I think an NHL or NFL team will follow down the line if an NBA team is successful. I also think we need casinos.
These would all be good for the entire state.
These would all be good for the entire state.
Plenty of reasons, I’ll list a few.
*Corporate dollars will be reduced (buying suites, tickets, ads, etc)
*Regular ticket sales - some fans will opt to spend on NBA or buy some of both - further depleting revenue.
*Must share facility - limits scheduling flexibility, practice time on court where you play games, etc
Media coverage - will be reduced/split.
Many, many more reasons. I’ll argue my point further by asking a question. Name a prominent, big-time D-I program that splits time in an NBA arena and is highly successful year after year? There may be one program that could argue that - possibly Villanova.
But even Nova is not near the program Louisville has been throughout history. And Nova’s attendance (9,772 last season sharing with the 76’ers about 2/3 of the time, playing at Palestra on campus the other 1/3) and revenue pales in comparison to UofL.
This is just my brief take, I can get much deeper.
Any true UofL fan that supports the NBA does not understand the financial ramifications it would have on our program. To say you support both - means you are totally uneducated and blind on the subject.
Nope, means I think with logic and Louisville athletics is not my life. The city and state that I live in, is and does affect my life.
Creating jobs, wealth, and status within my state and city are more important to me than University of Louisville being an athletic powerhouse.
Sounds to me that you are the one not using the good brain God gave you.
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Thanks. Great stuff.
It may come down to city vs UL. I imagine this would provide relief as far as the arena money troubles is concerned. I was about to ask the same question about other schools who share arenas. I think there are a couple of colleges who share football stadiums, no?
Cat fan IMO. Deny all you want.
Don't go over board here. No one is saying "Louisville athletics is my life." What we're saying is, if you're a true fan, you know because we've been through this before in 2000 when the Hornets wanted to relocate here, from a business and financial perspective, an NBA team would cause harm to the program. People who go to UofL games would perhaps use those entertainment dollars to go to an NBA game. It's simple math. Money once allotted for UofL games would then go to an NBA game. Fans of UofL should not want that to happen. But, if you're telling us you're not a fan, ok, pray for an NBA team.
Yeah, there are football teams that share. But, off the top of my head they are middle of the road schools whose attendance stinks, USF, Temple, etc.
Cat fans want the NBA for one reason - to inflict harm on the program whose recent (pre-Jurich getting fired) success was the equivalent to a rocket ship. UofL had unparalleled growth in its total sports program like no other in the history of the NCAA.
Anything to slow or eliminate that growth is paramount to kitty fans support, not their NBA interests. You believe that they’re all over the NBA - I got swamp land for you in Oldham County.
Anything to slow or eliminate that growth is paramount to kitty fans support, not their NBA interests. You believe that they’re all over the NBA - I got swamp land for you in Oldham County.
Just curious, are you oppose to Louisville soccer and Bats baseball? They take away money from our pockets. People will always spend money on the things they want. NBA Basketball is not the same as college basketball. Another example is I just bought a flex package for Louisville baseball and while I don’t have Bat season tickets, I will definitely go to quite a few games.
I’ve also been reading some Seattle articles. Most out there don’t believe it will occur in Seattle until at least 2025 - and they’re first in line. So, while I’m not losing sleep over it I’ve grown tired of the rhetoric and BS of the subject.
Can’t argue not one of my points. Just throw a personal insult at me. Here’s my insult to you - you’ve been outed. Your a kitty. Crawl back to Rupp’s Rafters and coach cow now please.
Minor league stuff in sports that don’t compete with UofL’s cash cow is an apples & oranges comparison IMO.
While UofL’s b-ball blossomed with Crum and other factors check out UofL’s attendance figures when the Colonels were in town. The numbers were split. I don’t have the data but I’m pretty sure both were averaging approx 10-12,000 a game. Once the colonels left, attendance at UofL games shot up.
Gotta go. Love to argue this more later. Card fans ask yourself this. What did the architect of our program think of the NBA? He knew what was best, while definitely not perfect his gut knew it would be bad for our program. Enough said - In Tom I Trust.
On the general topic here there should be no argument of cause and effect and winners and losers in the scenarios in play.
ANY professional franchise in any major sport in Louisville will hurt the financial support of UofL. But any professional franchise that is successful may help, overall, the city and community. May.
This risk is real. If the NBA comes in, then can't make it work, and then pulls up stakes and bails the damage would be bad both financially and image-wise to the city and certainly to UofL.
You can try to have (support) both UofL and the idea of a pro (NBA) team. But UofL definitely gets hurt to some extent if that happens. Everyone loses if the NBA team were to fold or move after setting up here.
For anyone who has direct or fiduciary responsibility to UofL the stance should be clear - do not support a professional franchise. The former AD never was questioned on his loyalty and where his focus and responsibility was. It would just not be 'popular' for the current AD to take a stance against a pro franchise, it is his direct and absolute responsibility to do so, just as it was the previous ADs.
ANY professional franchise in any major sport in Louisville will hurt the financial support of UofL. But any professional franchise that is successful may help, overall, the city and community. May.
This risk is real. If the NBA comes in, then can't make it work, and then pulls up stakes and bails the damage would be bad both financially and image-wise to the city and certainly to UofL.
You can try to have (support) both UofL and the idea of a pro (NBA) team. But UofL definitely gets hurt to some extent if that happens. Everyone loses if the NBA team were to fold or move after setting up here.
For anyone who has direct or fiduciary responsibility to UofL the stance should be clear - do not support a professional franchise. The former AD never was questioned on his loyalty and where his focus and responsibility was. It would just not be 'popular' for the current AD to take a stance against a pro franchise, it is his direct and absolute responsibility to do so, just as it was the previous ADs.
Sorry but some of you think small town. You want Louisville to be a thriving city? Compete for sporting venue events? You have to increase the tax base by bringing in new businesses, hotels, restaurants and as Atlanta and Charlotte have done, professional sports. I probably wouldn’t buy NBA or NFL season tickets but I would go to a game or two. Can’t be small minded.
What just happened? Did you just reply to your own post as someone else? Did you forget to change accounts?
So according to Tim Sullivan, Issel has recruited Grissom to help bring the NBA to town. The politically appointed President of the UL Board of Trustees wants to deemphasize athletics at UL and bring in an NBA franchise which wll save our crumbling downtown YUM Center economy after UL basketball implodes.
Wow, that really is encouraging. What a great guy! I guess the Governor is on the NBA bus too?
Just got my alumni call wanting money. Told em Postel & Grissom had to go first! The girl calling said she’d heard that a lot!
Hey, dumb a#% that name came from the marine corps. Has nothing to do with UK athletics . I think everyone here besides you knows that by now. If I was gonna troll and pretend to be a UL fan, yea, id call myself Rex Chapman.
Not working with much between the ears eh ?
There are other reasons to oppose an NBA franchise here besides being a U of L fan. I don't like the culture it represents and the image it often has. I also don't like that it too often brings in a mercenary, profit-driven owner who holds the venue and city hostage with threats to move it otherwise. And in Louisville's case, the franchise won't be as successful as it would be in a larger city with more of a pro sports base.
U of L is a culture of college students, rooted in academics and the community, and it's not going anywhere if it doesn't get its way. It's committed to Louisville and will be indefinitely. If you're picking the NBA regardless of its effects on U of L, you're shortsighted...
U of L is a culture of college students, rooted in academics and the community, and it's not going anywhere if it doesn't get its way. It's committed to Louisville and will be indefinitely. If you're picking the NBA regardless of its effects on U of L, you're shortsighted...
I want U of L football, Basketball and baseball to be #1 every year but we have learned that it doesn’t always happen and when they don’t, we as sports fans have very limited options. I guess football we have Colts and Bengals, yuck, but I guess otherwise we are just suppose to watch GOT on dvd.
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