Really? I'll show you the math (and you know I have it...)Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
Before I do... Do you have any evidence otherwise, or do you just not like the results?
"Elite program," my a$$...
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Really? I'll show you the math (and you know I have it...)Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
I assure you I can find an article with a stat somewhere to support my argument just as you can. But I'm sure you will find one and use it as 100% factualReally? I'll show you the math (and you know I have it...)
Before I do... Do you have any evidence otherwise, or do you just not like the results?
"Elite program," my a$$...
Funny slappy. I crunch my own numbers; I don't need an "article".I assure you I can find an article with a stat somewhere to support my argument just as you can. But I'm sure you will find one and use it as 100% factual
FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE pages. 493!!! Almost 20,000 posts on ONE topic...Louisville. C'mon man...there is nothing that comes remotely close to that level of "attention". And it's been a source of great pride for the posters in the thread to reach that level. There are probably a full 500 gleeful "bumps" to keep it on the first page. THAT is a level of obsession unmatched, by any fan base, anywhere. Now, you can either embrace it, condemn it, or ignore it, but you can not realistically compare it to anything or anyone else. It's there for all to see.
Just because your fanbase has no other clothes to wear doesn't mean that you're a such large presence in Louisville. Do you seriously think that you're impressing Louisville fans by wearing your ugly blue wife beaters around town or sporting your car flags in July? I see this crap at funerals, weddings, and similar events. You guys have such an inferiority complex that you have to PROVE to us what a presence you are here. This is just another example of what pathetic lives many of your ilk have. You guys are truly the little sister.Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
Funny slappy. I crunch my own numbers; I don't need an "article".
"Elite program," my a$$...
Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
3 to 1? Ok.LPT simpleton. That's not the only basis for "fear" although it makes sense a slappy would couch it in basketball history.
I'd argue that the biggest slapd!ck fear is losing your home turf. It's hopelessly lost in Jefferson County where U of L fans outnumber slappies 3-to-1. And about 25% of the State's zipcodes by population have more U of L fans than slapd!cks.
Those numbers were far, far lower three decades ago. And the trend from an LPT standpoint ain't good.
"Elite program," my a$$...
Sorry, I was "way off." It's 2.7 to 1.3 to 1? Ok.
Typical of a one-post slappy to point out that "we" have more basketball fans than football fans. I should have mentioned that Bama didn't show up for any of the Kentucky zip codes I clicked on.Aren't those all "football" fan #s?...
Regardless, Facebook likes is not a rigorous, by any definition, statistical measure...
And what census year are you using? 2010 census indicated a total pop for KY of 4.34 million?...
I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.Here are 102 Kentucky zip codes from THIS MAP where the % of U of L fans was greater than or equal to the % of slapd!cks.
40006 40047 40077 40160 40205 40215 40225 40250 40266 40287 40298
40013 40050 40104 40161 40206 40216 40228 40251 40268 40289 40299
40014 40055 40108 40165 40207 40217 40229 40252 40269 40290
40019 40056 40117 40175 40208 40218 40231 40253 40270 40291
40022 40059 40118 40176 40209 40219 40232 40255 40272 40292
40023 40065 40121 40177 40210 40220 40233 40256 40280 40293
40026 40067 40142 40201 40211 40221 40241 40257 40281 40294
40031 40068 40146 40202 40212 40222 40242 40258 40282 40295
40041 40070 40150 40203 40213 40223 40243 40259 40283 40296
40045 40071 40157 40204 40214 40224 40245 40261 40285 40297
The national population by zip code is available at THIS SITE. If you sort on the Kentucky zip codes, you can determine the population for all of Kentucky (3,757,776) and for the zip codes above (936,643). The ratio of the two is 24.93%. That is the percentage of Kentucky’s population residing in zip codes where the percentage of U of L fans is at least as high as slappies.
In addition to Jefferson County, there are zip codes in the following counties where the U of L fan % is higher than LPT: Breckinridge, Bullitt, Hardin, Henry, Meade, Nelson, Oldham, Shelby, Spencer, and Trimble.
Accounting for 99% of the Jefferson County’s population of 694,695, the percentage of U of L fans in Jefferson County zip codes is 59.8% vs 21.8% for slappies, a ratio of 2.7.
(I didn't do an analysis for Indiana counties, but it's the same procedure. That would further dilute the regional advantage of LPT fans over U of L since LPT's fanbase is also being overrun in Hoosier-land...)
So where are my numbers “way off”, jackwagon?
“Elite program,” my a$$...
I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.
As I told the other slappy here ... If you don't like my data, you present your own. YOU were guy issuing the challenge about being "way off", and I made my presentation. NO analysis ain't acceptable...Show me.I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.
It didn't even say how many or who they asked.As I told the other slappy here ... If you don't like my data, you present your own. YOU were guy issuing the challenge about being "way off", and I made my presentation. NO analysis ain't acceptable...Show me.
"Elite program," my a$$...
Facebook has almost 2 billion active users, more than 25% of the world's population. I think a statistician would tell you that's a pretty fair population or sample size.It didn't even say how many or who they asked.
I think he's right. I saw a story the other day where UK fans spammed an online poll so hard that the website/owner of the poll vowed not to do another poll all year. Big blue nation are widely known for being the most basketball obsessed fans in the nation. This rivalry just happens to be a big driving force behind it. But if you took Louisville out of the picture all together, Kentucky would still be obsessed with basketball
FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE pages. 493!!! Almost 20,000 posts on ONE topic...Louisville. C'mon man...there is nothing that comes remotely close to that level of "attention". And it's been a source of great pride for the posters in the thread to reach that level. There are probably a full 500 gleeful "bumps" to keep it on the first page. THAT is a level of obsession unmatched, by any fan base, anywhere. Now, you can either embrace it, condemn it, or ignore it, but you can not realistically compare it to anything or anyone else. It's there for all to see.
LPT simpleton. That's not the only basis for "fear" although it makes sense a slappy would couch it in basketball history.
I'd argue that the biggest slapd!ck fear is losing your home turf. It's hopelessly lost in Jefferson County where U of L fans outnumber slappies 3-to-1. And about 25% of the State's zipcodes by population have more U of L fans than slapd!cks.
Those numbers were far, far lower three decades ago. And the trend from an LPT standpoint ain't good.
"Elite program," my a$$...
That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:Good points.
But I ask you Zipp, would that be the situation if the Cards and Cats never started playing FB and BB on a regular basis?
What is it you so fondly say.....don't play them if you can not handle losing the game to them.
Well, if the Cards had not started playing them.....would the climb in the state popularity have taken place and would the Cards have made it to the BE and ultimately to the ACC?
Chicken or the egg....which came first? Is there but one correct definitive answer? IDK, what say you?
I'll take a shot. As smart a man that Jurich is, if he thought the rivalry was not to U of L's benefit either to the fanbase or financially (which I think go hand in hand), he would have discontinued the series long ago.That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:
And as important as the prior events were, that last item is quite possibly the single most important event in U of L athletics history. I don't think anyone believes that Tom Jurich's success has much to do with our playing LPT on a regular basis.
- U of L won a basketball NC and was selling out an 18,000-seat arena before the LPT series resumed in 1983.
- We went to the Fiesta Bowl and attracted a national championship football coach before we ever started playing LPT in football.
- U of L landed Tom Jurich in the late-90s, but I never recall him mentioning the importance of the "rivalry" in his decision to take the job.
So Mayo, I think you know where I'm headed. Do you have any strong counterarguments?
"Elite program," my a$$...
Here are some counter points, not sure they are strong or weak to you, but here goes:That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:
And as important as the prior events were, that last item is quite possibly the single most important event in U of L athletics history. I don't think anyone believes that Tom Jurich's success has much to do with our playing LPT on a regular basis.
- U of L won a basketball NC and was selling out an 18,000-seat arena before the LPT series resumed in 1983.
- We went to the Fiesta Bowl and attracted a national championship football coach before we ever started playing LPT in football.
- U of L landed Tom Jurich in the late-90s, but I never recall him mentioning the importance of the "rivalry" in his decision to take the job.
So Mayo, I think you know where I'm headed. Do you have any strong counterarguments?
"Elite program," my a$$...
I don't know how strong the TJ-would-cancel-otherwise argument is in 2017. Talking football, there was a time just a few years ago that the LPT game was the premier game (not based on strength) on the schedule. Now it's no better than third regardless of your opinion of the game. And many like me argue it's below all of the ACC games which largely determine our postseason. A few years are bit too soon to expect people's attitudes to have caught up, even Jurich's.
^Fair point...I agree
This week's events are focusing more attention on where our money is made or going. The LPT game is a net loss financially; we'd make a million more annually in EACH revenue sport playing a no-return game. That would almost make up the money that was just extorted from us.
^Strongly agree...if it is all about the money and business. How much the desires and pleasures of the fans weigh in this are harder to factor in. IMO.
One thing I will concede is that the LPT football game got this stadium built right away, and we have never looked back--with two significant expansions in less than 20 years. But I also think that was more of a timing thing than WHETHER it got built. Playing LPT accelerated it.
^Good point, but leaves out many other factors.
NOW ALL OF THAT SAID... If or when slappies wanna look at U of L athletics as something they had a hand in building--as rationalization for their support of the programs--I'm OK with that. The older we get, the more we forget why we're here. What's important is where we end up.
^So very true......I wonder how many ex cat fans became Cards fans because of the history between the 2 schools.....especially since the Cards have dominated the modern day series in FB. Will we ever know?
I would much rather be us then them....of that I am sure of....as FB is king, especially in the South.
PS. Mayo's comments are in bold.
8. You have? I guess that's pending.
Indeed.
I agree Cal hasn't gotten the job done with some great teams. Our football team seems to get a good win or two a yr, but have some atrocious losses. I like Lamar Jackson. He seems nice.Well, at least you showed up, lol. I don;t mind that. None of my distaste for UK comes from their players, for the record. I especially include the watching fascinating team failures of Cal play some dam good basketball. Players recently have seemed likable enough and incredibly good ballplayers. Same with football and, secretly, I would love the series to tighten up in competition. Post season is more important to us than ever, right now, and having a good brawl to end the season ought to be a way for both teams to improve.
Nah, it's just fan behavior and the internet warriors that turn me off so much. Easy to hate that way. Especially with that bad breath thing.
UK has an easier schedule than last season but it still includes potential playoff teams. It gets fgnarly against that quality of competition. You get behind and then the collapse - it hurts morale.I agree Cal hasn't gotten the job done with some great teams. Our football team seems to get a good win or two a yr, but have some atrocious losses. I like Lamar Jackson. He seems nice.
i imagine if there were a site as active as RR you would see more threads that back. I would guess the biggest threads in all of rivals data base are all on Cats illustrates and the Louisville thread is probably third or fourth on that list...
Then, the two fanbases aren't comparable. And slappies can stop saying they are. You can take comfort at being #1 at something.I already told you there were no other threads as big about any other school. Did you not believe me? You're free to look for yourself.
Then post more accurate numbers. I keep waiting.Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
Typical of a one-post slappy to point out that "we" have more basketball fans than football fans.