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Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
Really? I'll show you the math (and you know I have it...)

Before I do... Do you have any evidence otherwise, or do you just not like the results?

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
Really? I'll show you the math (and you know I have it...)

Before I do... Do you have any evidence otherwise, or do you just not like the results?

"Elite program," my a$$...
I assure you I can find an article with a stat somewhere to support my argument just as you can. But I'm sure you will find one and use it as 100% factual
 
I assure you I can find an article with a stat somewhere to support my argument just as you can. But I'm sure you will find one and use it as 100% factual
Funny slappy. I crunch my own numbers; I don't need an "article".

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE pages. 493!!! Almost 20,000 posts on ONE topic...Louisville. C'mon man...there is nothing that comes remotely close to that level of "attention". And it's been a source of great pride for the posters in the thread to reach that level. There are probably a full 500 gleeful "bumps" to keep it on the first page. THAT is a level of obsession unmatched, by any fan base, anywhere. Now, you can either embrace it, condemn it, or ignore it, but you can not realistically compare it to anything or anyone else. It's there for all to see.

LoL - that's pretty funny. 494 pages is definitely a friggin record. Of course the traffic on RR is insane.... I quit trying to ever post or read Rafters back in '07 or '08 (Disclosure - UK fan)..... you can't carry on a conversation with anyone for how fast topics go to page 2.... it's like trying to scream a conversation at a 300 kegger frat party and hope someone hears you....,
 
Your numbers are way off. Wayyyy off
Just because your fanbase has no other clothes to wear doesn't mean that you're a such large presence in Louisville. Do you seriously think that you're impressing Louisville fans by wearing your ugly blue wife beaters around town or sporting your car flags in July? I see this crap at funerals, weddings, and similar events. You guys have such an inferiority complex that you have to PROVE to us what a presence you are here. This is just another example of what pathetic lives many of your ilk have. You guys are truly the little sister.
 
Funny slappy. I crunch my own numbers; I don't need an "article".

"Elite program," my a$$...

It's all a guess at a certain level because you aren't asking everyone and certain areas will be more dense towards a certain team but I really am interested in your numbers.
 
Here are 102 Kentucky zip codes from THIS MAP where the % of U of L fans was greater than or equal to the % of slapd!cks.

40006 40047 40077 40160 40205 40215 40225 40250 40266 40287 40298
40013 40050 40104 40161 40206 40216 40228 40251 40268 40289 40299
40014 40055 40108 40165 40207 40217 40229 40252 40269 40290
40019 40056 40117 40175 40208 40218 40231 40253 40270 40291
40022 40059 40118 40176 40209 40219 40232 40255 40272 40292
40023 40065 40121 40177 40210 40220 40233 40256 40280 40293
40026 40067 40142 40201 40211 40221 40241 40257 40281 40294
40031 40068 40146 40202 40212 40222 40242 40258 40282 40295
40041 40070 40150 40203 40213 40223 40243 40259 40283 40296
40045 40071 40157 40204 40214 40224 40245 40261 40285 40297

The national population by zip code is available at THIS SITE. If you sort on the Kentucky zip codes, you can determine the population for all of Kentucky (3,757,776) and for the zip codes above (936,643). The ratio of the two is 24.93%. That is the percentage of Kentucky’s population residing in zip codes where the percentage of U of L fans is at least as high as slappies.

In addition to Jefferson County, there are zip codes in the following counties where the U of L fan % is higher than LPT: Breckinridge, Bullitt, Hardin, Henry, Meade, Nelson, Oldham, Shelby, Spencer, and Trimble.

Accounting for 99% of the Jefferson County’s population of 694,695, the percentage of U of L fans in Jefferson County zip codes is 59.8% vs 21.8% for slappies, a ratio of 2.7.

(I didn't do an analysis for Indiana counties, but it's the same procedure. That would further dilute the regional advantage of LPT fans over U of L since LPT's fanbase is also being overrun in Hoosier-land...)

So where are my numbers “way off”, jackwagon?

“Elite program,” my a$$...
 
LPT simpleton. That's not the only basis for "fear" although it makes sense a slappy would couch it in basketball history.

I'd argue that the biggest slapd!ck fear is losing your home turf. It's hopelessly lost in Jefferson County where U of L fans outnumber slappies 3-to-1. And about 25% of the State's zipcodes by population have more U of L fans than slapd!cks.

Those numbers were far, far lower three decades ago. And the trend from an LPT standpoint ain't good.

"Elite program," my a$$...
3 to 1? Ok.
 
Like other posters have mentioned, 98% of Uk posters are only here to try to "set us UofL fans straight" on Uk, Cal, your team, your fans etc. and add absolutely nothing to the board. They only post in or about Uk topics and virtually never about what they say they want to talk about over here such as UofL team/players/topics or college basketball in general.

The vast majority of Uk posters- that aren't flaming trolls (and there are many of those)- are here only to spread their Uk bias and agenda and defend Calipari and all things Uk to the utmost of their ability. To top that off they then have the nerve to try and chastise UofL fans every single time any of us poke fun, jab, or insult anything about Uk.

Next time Uk posters want to cry about the mods not letting them say whatever they want or get upset that someone is talking bad about Uk, they should keep in mind this is OUR board. We get more leeway because of that just as you all overwhelming would on yours.This is a UofL fan board and you all get WAY more leeway and fair treatment here than UofL fans do on your board. I don't particularly care if respectful posters from other fanbases post over here but when virtually all the Uk posters repeatedly do what I stated in the first two paragraphs- yeah- it can get annoying to everyone. However they wouldn't know about that since it doesn't happen on their board.
 
Aren't those all "football" fan #s?...

Regardless, Facebook likes is not a rigorous, by any definition, statistical measure...

And what census year are you using? 2010 census indicated a total pop for KY of 4.34 million?...
Typical of a one-post slappy to point out that "we" have more basketball fans than football fans. I should have mentioned that Bama didn't show up for any of the Kentucky zip codes I clicked on.

If the database doesn't collect all Kentucky counties/zip codes, you're gonna have to show that the 80% or more represented in my analysis wasn't representative of current data. IOW, how did a slightly smaller data set skew the results? Or could it just as readily have skewed it in LPT's direction?

And let a doubting slappy offer a better set of data if this one falls short. As I told your LPT friend, you simply don't like the results.

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
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Here are 102 Kentucky zip codes from THIS MAP where the % of U of L fans was greater than or equal to the % of slapd!cks.

40006 40047 40077 40160 40205 40215 40225 40250 40266 40287 40298
40013 40050 40104 40161 40206 40216 40228 40251 40268 40289 40299
40014 40055 40108 40165 40207 40217 40229 40252 40269 40290
40019 40056 40117 40175 40208 40218 40231 40253 40270 40291
40022 40059 40118 40176 40209 40219 40232 40255 40272 40292
40023 40065 40121 40177 40210 40220 40233 40256 40280 40293
40026 40067 40142 40201 40211 40221 40241 40257 40281 40294
40031 40068 40146 40202 40212 40222 40242 40258 40282 40295
40041 40070 40150 40203 40213 40223 40243 40259 40283 40296
40045 40071 40157 40204 40214 40224 40245 40261 40285 40297

The national population by zip code is available at THIS SITE. If you sort on the Kentucky zip codes, you can determine the population for all of Kentucky (3,757,776) and for the zip codes above (936,643). The ratio of the two is 24.93%. That is the percentage of Kentucky’s population residing in zip codes where the percentage of U of L fans is at least as high as slappies.

In addition to Jefferson County, there are zip codes in the following counties where the U of L fan % is higher than LPT: Breckinridge, Bullitt, Hardin, Henry, Meade, Nelson, Oldham, Shelby, Spencer, and Trimble.

Accounting for 99% of the Jefferson County’s population of 694,695, the percentage of U of L fans in Jefferson County zip codes is 59.8% vs 21.8% for slappies, a ratio of 2.7.

(I didn't do an analysis for Indiana counties, but it's the same procedure. That would further dilute the regional advantage of LPT fans over U of L since LPT's fanbase is also being overrun in Hoosier-land...)

So where are my numbers “way off”, jackwagon?

“Elite program,” my a$$...
I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.
 
I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.

You, sir, are living in denial. Just look around dude. Count "license" plates and flags. Also find out the number of season ticket holders in Jefferson County for uahkay versus UofL and even the surrounding metro areas. You can deny until the cows come home but you'd be wrong.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
I didn't see did they call everyone and ask them? Did they ask you? Did they ask me? Are those the same kind of polls that told me hillary would be my president now? Serious questions because if they really did call everyone those numbers would be surprising to me.
As I told the other slappy here ... If you don't like my data, you present your own. YOU were guy issuing the challenge about being "way off", and I made my presentation. NO analysis ain't acceptable...Show me.

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
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As I told the other slappy here ... If you don't like my data, you present your own. YOU were guy issuing the challenge about being "way off", and I made my presentation. NO analysis ain't acceptable...Show me.

"Elite program," my a$$...
It didn't even say how many or who they asked.
 
It didn't even say how many or who they asked.
Facebook has almost 2 billion active users, more than 25% of the world's population. I think a statistician would tell you that's a pretty fair population or sample size.

My experience watching slapd!cks from afar is that they are well represented among internet obsessed fanbases. If anything, I'd judge slappies to be OVER-represented in these data.

Face it, you just don't like the results. And I can't help you with that. You begged to see my numbers, and I warned you...Like I said, offer up your own.

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
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I think he's right. I saw a story the other day where UK fans spammed an online poll so hard that the website/owner of the poll vowed not to do another poll all year. Big blue nation are widely known for being the most basketball obsessed fans in the nation. This rivalry just happens to be a big driving force behind it. But if you took Louisville out of the picture all together, Kentucky would still be obsessed with basketball

Keep telling yourself that sloppy. U.K. fan obsession with ALL things UofL is now irrefutably documented by the magnitude and length of the thread mentioned. Hell, that in itself makes the referee threat incident insignificant by comparison. If you could for a minute be honest with yourself, you would know by the shear amount of ignorant posts on RR that most U.K. fans know very little about basketball, but by damn they all have Wal-Mart t-shirts that say they are. LOL. You are without a doubt the most laughed at fan base in the nation.
 
FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY THREE pages. 493!!! Almost 20,000 posts on ONE topic...Louisville. C'mon man...there is nothing that comes remotely close to that level of "attention". And it's been a source of great pride for the posters in the thread to reach that level. There are probably a full 500 gleeful "bumps" to keep it on the first page. THAT is a level of obsession unmatched, by any fan base, anywhere. Now, you can either embrace it, condemn it, or ignore it, but you can not realistically compare it to anything or anyone else. It's there for all to see.

Rumor has it that tattoo parlors across central and eastern ky have lines forming to have the occasion remembered for infinity. LOL.
 
LPT simpleton. That's not the only basis for "fear" although it makes sense a slappy would couch it in basketball history.

I'd argue that the biggest slapd!ck fear is losing your home turf. It's hopelessly lost in Jefferson County where U of L fans outnumber slappies 3-to-1. And about 25% of the State's zipcodes by population have more U of L fans than slapd!cks.

Those numbers were far, far lower three decades ago. And the trend from an LPT standpoint ain't good.

"Elite program," my a$$...

Good points.

But I ask you Zipp, would that be the situation if the Cards and Cats never started playing FB and BB on a regular basis?

What is it you so fondly say.....don't play them if you can not handle losing the game to them.

Well, if the Cards had not started playing them.....would the climb in the state popularity have taken place and would the Cards have made it to the BE and ultimately to the ACC?

Chicken or the egg....which came first? Is there but one correct definitive answer? IDK, what say you?
 
Good points.

But I ask you Zipp, would that be the situation if the Cards and Cats never started playing FB and BB on a regular basis?

What is it you so fondly say.....don't play them if you can not handle losing the game to them.

Well, if the Cards had not started playing them.....would the climb in the state popularity have taken place and would the Cards have made it to the BE and ultimately to the ACC?

Chicken or the egg....which came first? Is there but one correct definitive answer? IDK, what say you?
That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:
  • U of L won a basketball NC and was selling out an 18,000-seat arena before the LPT series resumed in 1983.
  • We went to the Fiesta Bowl and attracted a national championship football coach before we ever started playing LPT in football.
  • U of L landed Tom Jurich in the late-90s, but I never recall him mentioning the importance of the "rivalry" in his decision to take the job.
And as important as the prior events were, that last item is quite possibly the single most important event in U of L athletics history. I don't think anyone believes that Tom Jurich's success has much to do with our playing LPT on a regular basis.

So Mayo, I think you know where I'm headed. Do you have any strong counterarguments?

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:
  • U of L won a basketball NC and was selling out an 18,000-seat arena before the LPT series resumed in 1983.
  • We went to the Fiesta Bowl and attracted a national championship football coach before we ever started playing LPT in football.
  • U of L landed Tom Jurich in the late-90s, but I never recall him mentioning the importance of the "rivalry" in his decision to take the job.
And as important as the prior events were, that last item is quite possibly the single most important event in U of L athletics history. I don't think anyone believes that Tom Jurich's success has much to do with our playing LPT on a regular basis.

So Mayo, I think you know where I'm headed. Do you have any strong counterarguments?

"Elite program," my a$$...
I'll take a shot. As smart a man that Jurich is, if he thought the rivalry was not to U of L's benefit either to the fanbase or financially (which I think go hand in hand), he would have discontinued the series long ago.
 
That's a right turn, but an issue always worth discussing! It's hard to conclusively make a determination like that; all you can is look at evidence and see what picture it paints. Consider that:
  • U of L won a basketball NC and was selling out an 18,000-seat arena before the LPT series resumed in 1983.
  • We went to the Fiesta Bowl and attracted a national championship football coach before we ever started playing LPT in football.
  • U of L landed Tom Jurich in the late-90s, but I never recall him mentioning the importance of the "rivalry" in his decision to take the job.
And as important as the prior events were, that last item is quite possibly the single most important event in U of L athletics history. I don't think anyone believes that Tom Jurich's success has much to do with our playing LPT on a regular basis.

So Mayo, I think you know where I'm headed. Do you have any strong counterarguments?

"Elite program," my a$$...
Here are some counter points, not sure they are strong or weak to you, but here goes:

Pt 1 - True, and won another in 1986 as well as 2012/2013 and do very well in selling out the YUM Center too, which has even greater capacity. Would the powers to be have bothered to build that arena if the Cards never played UK, and moving up from CUSA to BE to ACC? A domino affect. IDK how to measure that. I do know this.....that all happened after 1986, the second BB NC and big bowl victory over Bama..

Pt 2 - One could state that the Cards beating Bama in that Fiesta Bowl proved UofL could compete and beat a top tier program of the SEC, not an also ran bottom feeder named UK, and it likely shamed UK into playing the Cards to show the state that they were still top dog in the state....and the results in FB speak for themselves. UK is not top animal. It backfired on them.

How has the resumption of that FB series turned out for both programs? Much better for UofL than for UK...would you agree with that? Hence, it did help the Cards make fan strides in parts of the state that had really only cheered for the Cats in previous years/times. Your data validates that point very well.

Pt 3 - Is not very relevant to this discussion. I will, however, say that it gave him (TJ) an easy target to prove his expertise in building a total sports program over the states so called flagship program and be the school always striving to be better and proving themselves on the field, the court, the diamond, etc, etc.....and all at UK's expense.

Hard to deny that. Hell even WKU has made UK look like the slappies and the fools they are by topping them the last two times they played in FB.

NCcardfan made a very valid point in his post also. Not sure you will agree with anything that he or I stated....but counter point is presented for you to ponder, chew on and destroy as you see fit.

I too, feel that TJ would cancel the series with UK in a heart beat if he saw no value in playing the games.....win, lose or draw. As of today....the games are still on and scheduled.
 
It also doesn't make sense that if we get no value from playing UK, why do we schedule them in men's and women soccer, baseball and softball, volleyball in addition to football and men's and women's basketball? I think that says a lot about the athletic dept in general as to how much the rivalry means.
 
I don't know how strong the TJ-would-cancel-otherwise argument is in 2017. Talking football, there was a time just a few years ago that the LPT game was the premier game (not based on strength) on the schedule. Now it's no better than third regardless of your opinion of the game. And many like me argue it's below all of the ACC games which largely determine our postseason. A few years are bit too soon to expect people's attitudes to have caught up, even Jurich's.

This week's events are focusing more attention on where our money is made or going. The LPT game is a net loss financially; we'd make a million more annually in EACH revenue sport playing a no-return game. That would almost make up the money that was just extorted from us.

One thing I will concede is that the LPT football game got this stadium built right away, and we have never looked back--with two significant expansions in less than 20 years. But I also think that was more of a timing thing than WHETHER it got built. Playing LPT accelerated it.

NOW ALL OF THAT SAID... If or when slappies wanna look at U of L athletics as something they had a hand in building--as rationalization for their support of the programs--I'm OK with that. The older we get, the more we forget why we're here. What's important is where we end up.

:cool:

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
I don't know how strong the TJ-would-cancel-otherwise argument is in 2017. Talking football, there was a time just a few years ago that the LPT game was the premier game (not based on strength) on the schedule. Now it's no better than third regardless of your opinion of the game. And many like me argue it's below all of the ACC games which largely determine our postseason. A few years are bit too soon to expect people's attitudes to have caught up, even Jurich's.

^Fair point...I agree

This week's events are focusing more attention on where our money is made or going. The LPT game is a net loss financially; we'd make a million more annually in EACH revenue sport playing a no-return game. That would almost make up the money that was just extorted from us.

^Strongly agree...if it is all about the money and business. How much the desires and pleasures of the fans weigh in this are harder to factor in. IMO.


One thing I will concede is that the LPT football game got this stadium built right away, and we have never looked back--with two significant expansions in less than 20 years. But I also think that was more of a timing thing than WHETHER it got built. Playing LPT accelerated it.

^Good point, but leaves out many other factors.

NOW ALL OF THAT SAID... If or when slappies wanna look at U of L athletics as something they had a hand in building--as rationalization for their support of the programs--I'm OK with that. The older we get, the more we forget why we're here. What's important is where we end up.

^So very true......I wonder how many ex cat fans became Cards fans because of the history between the 2 schools.....especially since the Cards have dominated the modern day series in FB. Will we ever know?o_O;):D

I would much rather be us then them....of that I am sure of....as FB is king, especially in the South.

PS. Mayo's comments are in bold.
 
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I'm not sure exactly what UK did to help build up our program. Just playing them? But if you look back at the Schnellenberger schedules, we played a lot of top programs. Just from memory, we played Tennessee, Ohio State, Texas, Texas A&M, Penn State, Florida State, and West Virginia.

In basketball, we were established in the 1950's. You could argue our Elite 8 win over UK in the 1950s put UofL on the map. But that game wasn't something UK gave us, we earned it by winning to get to the game.

And we played everybody in the Crum era. UCLA, Duke, Indiana, Kansas. Not sure if we played UNC in the regular season back then off the top of my head. The point is that playing UK didn't hurt our program, but it was hardly the only national program on the schedule keeping our schedule afloat.

Also, the first 4 years of the renewed football series with UK were played in Lexington. So we didn't even get the benefit of sellouts against UK back then.

Some UK fans will probably tell you UK built UofL, that our program was nothing until they deigned to start playing us at their expense. The truth is probably somewhere in between, but I think it's closer to the other end from the UK narrative.
 
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I would love an on campus facility but not at the expense of every taxpayer in Jefferson County and the expectation that ticket prices would increase significantly not to mention likely tuition. Especially for a facility that's likely to be smaller with fewer available seats. I guess you could put volleyball there and charge $20 a seat or you could have a lot of John Mayer concerts to help pay for it. Where would be the allure for out of town fans and visitors?
 
Some sociological trends have emerged over the past years which are plainly and forever UK fan base traits....many of which are freaking hilarious. We were gifted with imaginary languages and interpretations of words most Americans have no trouble using, but which, under the expert hands of UK the supremely confident prose of posters became "fast paste", "at our beckon call", and a literal myriad of Norm Crosby-isms, completely reworking the English language into Holler Talk, ha ha. UK Talk - as a comedy website - could be the equivalent of the intended comedy of "Engrish" and those crazy Chinese excesses.

A part of the function of the entire UK fan base curling up in their own embarrassed and red faced solitary shell at RR after suffering abuse and censure at the hands of pretty much all other programs known to man, lol, leads to threads which blatantly reveal a level of fear and an inability to respect absolutely anyone else, such as we see in the OP and the face-saving attempts by these UK scribes, lol.. This hilariously followed a splurge a few years ago, perhaps with the hire of Cal, but I suspect far earlier, of UK internet "savants" sent out to spread the UK message and to show what "disciplined and hip" stands for in Versailles and Hazard.. Oops, ha ha!!! UK fans and Rupp's Rafters set the standards for deluded and a level of arrogant and willfuly ignorant behavior. They know this, ha ha. It is their dirty little secret they try and hide by presenting a decidedly "rational, middle class" persona on the boards now. "See? I'm Blue Thunder" and I am a normal guy. Watch me make tons of goober fans "normal" to your perceptions!! Sorry, BT - not today, lmao.

Funny enough, the UofL sporting franchises have left - or are leaving - all that behind while UK still toils in embarrassed solitude, debating whether Wah Wah Jones or Devin Booker matter today. These days, no one reads over there - Kentucky fans died an ignoble death a while back when no one was watching. Now they are either a source of specific interest - pregame and schedule speculation - or else they don't exist for more and more UofL fans as time goes by. all of whom feel remarkably healthier for it.

As posters in here have pointed out, UK fans seem impossibly bent on ignorance. They only talk about UK. That's the extent of their basketball - and, to be honest, their sports knowledge.
 
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Well, at least you showed up, lol. I don;t mind that. None of my distaste for UK comes from their players, for the record. I especially include the watching fascinating team failures of Cal play some dam good basketball. Players recently have seemed likable enough and incredibly good ballplayers. Same with football and, secretly, I would love the series to tighten up in competition. Post season is more important to us than ever, right now, and having a good brawl to end the season ought to be a way for both teams to improve.

Nah, it's just fan behavior and the internet warriors that turn me off so much. Easy to hate that way. Especially with that bad breath thing.
 
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Well, at least you showed up, lol. I don;t mind that. None of my distaste for UK comes from their players, for the record. I especially include the watching fascinating team failures of Cal play some dam good basketball. Players recently have seemed likable enough and incredibly good ballplayers. Same with football and, secretly, I would love the series to tighten up in competition. Post season is more important to us than ever, right now, and having a good brawl to end the season ought to be a way for both teams to improve.

Nah, it's just fan behavior and the internet warriors that turn me off so much. Easy to hate that way. Especially with that bad breath thing.
I agree Cal hasn't gotten the job done with some great teams. Our football team seems to get a good win or two a yr, but have some atrocious losses. I like Lamar Jackson. He seems nice.
 
I agree Cal hasn't gotten the job done with some great teams. Our football team seems to get a good win or two a yr, but have some atrocious losses. I like Lamar Jackson. He seems nice.
UK has an easier schedule than last season but it still includes potential playoff teams. It gets fgnarly against that quality of competition. You get behind and then the collapse - it hurts morale.
 
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UK fans simply don't realize what has hit them during the last 15 years. This thing is over. Another CWS for us while they have only one super regional appearence. The college MVP is both baseball and football. Three major bowl wins, two national runner ups for our women while they have nothing. Virtually every athletic facility we have is better. Some have been updated twice while UK is basically stuck in the dark ages with their facilities. Even our basketball earnings exceed their's by ten million dollars a year over the last decade. I still remember when an Alabama fan saying that playing in Commonwealth reminded them of high school games. Imagine having a football program that hasn't had even one conference winning season in 40 years while sitting in the weakest division in the SEC. UL's grad rate for major sports diminishes UK. Even while residing in the vaunted SEC,UL still has more players in the NFL and has for more than ten years. Cal recruited more AA's in basketball than Duke, Kansas and North Carolina combined over a six year period and yet have only one title while three other programs have at least two. This type of player is now realizing that Duke and others have better coaches than Cal. Putting together six AA's who have no actual interest or ability to do college work results in nothing but hype and empty C-USA level conference wins.

The fact that UK fans still think they are some kind of power who dominates us in some way is really funny when you look at the actual facts. Probably it's just sad when you think about it. The hits just keep coming for them but they measure success by concentrating on their recruting numbers. The fact is that UK just doesn't count when you look at the top athletic programs in the NCAA.
 
i imagine if there were a site as active as RR you would see more threads that back. I would guess the biggest threads in all of rivals data base are all on Cats illustrates and the Louisville thread is probably third or fourth on that list...
I already told you there were no other threads as big about any other school. Did you not believe me? You're free to look for yourself.
Then, the two fanbases aren't comparable. And slappies can stop saying they are. You can take comfort at being #1 at something.

"Elite program," my a$$...
 
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