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BYU 3 to 4 Million Dollars?

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To understand this recruitment, you have to understand what's going on at BYU. Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith and executive Danny Ainge are all-in on rebuilding BYU basketball.“

They’ve given Kevin Young an open checkbook."

 
Kinda sounds like they have an unlimited $$$$.
BYU has been getting a lot of high rated recruits this cycle and now we know why. This does seem very sudden though. I wonder why didn't they do this when Pope was coaching there?
 
Everything is fluid. We'll see how it all shakes out. Can't really put a cap on their endorsement $. They aren't employees either. If you make 'em employees, you might have to share some TV revenue.
 
Well can a NBA team give money to college players, that does seem like that clear tampering unless that rule changed.
 
To understand this recruitment, you have to understand what's going on at BYU. Utah Jazz owner Ryan Smith and executive Danny Ainge are all-in on rebuilding BYU basketball.“

They’ve given Kevin Young an open checkbook."

I think it’d be awesome if he committed to BYU! The first season of Pope being gone and they snag the #1 player in the nation.
We all know how much the kitty cats love their recruiting!
 
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It makes no sense to me why these young men go to these type of schools.
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I think this is completely unrealistic and is total BS. To me it is pretty easy to see right through the BS… it is nothing more then the kids agent lying through his teeth trying to put more money in both of their pockets,
But it is funny…
 
i love it!!!! just a few years ago every top player was going to one of five schools who had deep roots under the table payment systems in place to essential bribe adn pay kids. now it's all open and those blue blood schools no longer control the top talent. and is why NIL is the greatest thing to ever happen to college sports fairness. UK, Duke UNC, Kanasa and the like used always get the top kids. rare was the kid who didn't go to these schools. Now BYU is out bidding everyone. You can go from zero to national champ back to zero again in 15 months and it's awesome. you may not win the title btu every school int he country with a rich booster is now in the game. that's over 330 D1 schools that can realistically buy a title. before it was ten tops.
 
i love it!!!! just a few years ago every top player was going to one of five schools who had deep roots under the table payment systems in place to essential bribe adn pay kids. now it's all open and those blue blood schools no longer control the top talent. and is why NIL is the greatest thing to ever happen to college sports fairness. UK, Duke UNC, Kanasa and the like used always get the top kids. rare was the kid who didn't go to these schools. Now BYU is out bidding everyone. You can go from zero to national champ back to zero again in 15 months and it's awesome. you may not win the title btu every school int he country with a rich booster is now in the game. that's over 330 D1 schools that can realistically buy a title. before it was ten tops.
I hate it.. It needs some refining at the very least. Need to have salary caps and contracts.. This whole thing was designed so kids could get royalties off T shirts and video games or make commercials for local businesses. It was not intended for pay for play sports.. It's ruining college sports in my opinion..
 
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I agree that all the good players in football and basketball were going to about 5 to 10 teams depending on the sport. Now you have all schools paying money up front and it has taken away all the good players from going to just a few schools. In football they have cut the roster size by 50 players and those guys who would have gone to Alabama, Notre Dame, Georgia, etc will be going to other schools. They are leveling the playing field. Unfortunately at the same time a lot of high school athletes won’t be getting scholarships.
 
I hate it.. It needs some refining at the very least. Need to have salary caps and contracts.. This whole thing was designed so kids could get royalties off T shirts and video games or make commercials for local businesses. It was not intended for pay for play sports.. It's ruining college sports in my opinion..
it's always been pay for play, you just never saw it but it's existed since time began. you think the $10k fedex package from uk asst 30 years ago wasn;t paying kids? or rex chapman driving an I-REX-Z on campus? or the enitre SMU backfield in the 80's? every single good college player going to any blue blood school has been paid and their families paid. ever hear of Reggie Bush? we paid our players with hookers for the '2013 title. go ask Trez and Russ. and now somehow you're upset? we won the 2013 because we bribed and paid trez to come from nc state. he didn't show up here for free. problem was before only the top schools got away with it while no one else could. playing field is level now. and it's the kids making the money for the schools, they ARE employees no matter what schools say and they deserve to be paid. they were slaves before, forced to serve four year contracts where coaches allowed to eave at any time btu kids forced to stay. i will never side will million/billion dollar schools and corporations and never understood why any person ever takes the side of employer over employee. hey. let's make a few people who barely work super rich while we work harder for less money and benefits. and yet people still think unions are bad. just plain dumb. workers who will never make it to management but vote to give management control and to give up worker rights. hwo stupid is anyone to think union and workers rights are bad? pay the kids, billions made off them and yet somehow they don't deserve to be paid? Crash the system!
 
it's always been pay for play, you just never saw it but it's existed since time began. you think the $10k fedex package from uk asst 30 years ago wasn;t paying kids? or rex chapman driving an I-REX-Z on campus? or the enitre SMU backfield in the 80's? every single good college player going to any blue blood school has been paid and their families paid. ever hear of Reggie Bush? we paid our players with hookers for the '2013 title. go ask Trez and Russ. and now somehow you're upset? we won the 2013 because we bribed and paid trez to come from nc state. he didn't show up here for free. problem was before only the top schools got away with it while no one else could. playing field is level now. and it's the kids making the money for the schools, they ARE employees no matter what schools say and they deserve to be paid. they were slaves before, forced to serve four year contracts where coaches allowed to eave at any time btu kids forced to stay. i will never side will million/billion dollar schools and corporations and never understood why any person ever takes the side of employer over employee. hey. let's make a few people who barely work super rich while we work harder for less money and benefits. and yet people still think unions are bad. just plain dumb. workers who will never make it to management but vote to give management control and to give up worker rights. hwo stupid is anyone to think union and workers rights are bad? pay the kids, billions made off them and yet somehow they don't deserve to be paid? Crash the system!
It's college amateur sports, it's not supposed to be a minor league pro league.. These kids are playing for Universities, you know, learning institutions. Less than 2% of these kids will play in the NBA or any pro league. If they want to be entrepreneurs and get out and hustle and make some commercials or sell some merchandise I'm good with that. I'm not good with a kid getting $10 million just handed to him for playing amateur sports..

A free education is worth $100 k or more these days. That's not chicken feed. The majority of these kids would never get a college education if not for sports and an education is much more valuable than just being handed some money they absolutely have no idea how to handle.

I honestly don't know why Universities didn't fight this harder and say they're an amateur organization and they're not going to let them just accept payments.
 
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It's college amateur sports, it's not supposed to be a minor league pro league.. These kids are playing for Universities, you know, learning institutions. Less than 2% of these kids will play in the NBA or any pro league. If they want to be entrepreneurs and get out and hustle and make some commercials or sell some merchandise I'm good with that. I'm not good with a kid getting $10 million just handed to him for playing amateur sports..

A free education is worth $100 k or more these days. That's not chicken feed. The majority of these kids would never get a college education if not for sports and an education is much more valuable than just being handed some money they absolutely have no idea how to handle.

I honestly don't know why Universities didn't fight this harder and say they're an amateur organization and they're not going to let them just accept payments.
so why do the coaches and universities get to make hundreds of millions of dollars and the kids making that money for them get nothing but an education that many don't want in the first place but it's forced upon them if they want to play? i only went to college because my parents wanted me too and i dropped out. they have to go to classes to play sports, how f&cked up is that? you don't get paid, the coaches and schools bring in hundreds of millions and kids forced to go to class? and giving the education to an athlete is basically free for the college, they just put another chair in the room and the kid gets free education, costs them a few hundred dollars to add the kid. sports dept pays for the room and board. btu i'd guess most would prefer just to play and not have to learn about things that have nothing to do with their career so saying they get $100k education means nothing and it only costs school a few hundred dollar. and an $100k history of french lit education doesn;t get you a job. degrees don't mean you'll get a job. most likely AI will do most thigns a human can so most jobs int he future will be serving people and making food.

so don't give me they need an education bulsh&4T, my friends who make the most money in life don't have college educations. they got connections and family members so having an education just gets you stuck in a middle class boring job. i never used my education and i've gone form being bankrupt to a multimillionaire in 25 years. so kids don't need an education, they need to be paid. where have you been the last 60 years, it's not amateur, it's forced slavery. it's coaches, presidents and AD's making millions in salaries and school making millions off kids they do not care about, don't care about concussions or future health, they've always paid these kids under the table tons of money, it's been big business forever and you're just so naive you think it's amateur sports. sorry, but open your eyes, it's been going on since ncaa started. big time athletes have been paid illegally, and there has never been a single day in college sports where athletes weren't paid an the fact that you think it was ever amateur sports just makes me sad that you are so clueless and it's the problem with our country. you cannot go back to something that never existed. just plain idiotic to ever think amateur sports for football and basketball ever existed. it's been pay for play for the top athletes and now everyone gets to share. this is not a MAGA situation, and just like MAGA the past was never what you thought it was, people are just too naive, too closeminded, or jsut too dumb to have any real thought to understand. the fact that i even have to explain it is so sad and why our country is where it is today. cluless, uneducated closeminded people telling us how things supposedly used to be and that's how it should be now when it never existed. sheep.
 
so why do the coaches and universities get to make hundreds of millions of dollars and the kids making that money for them get nothing but an education that many don't want in the first place but it's forced upon them if they want to play? i only went to college because my parents wanted me too and i dropped out. they have to go to classes to play sports, how f&cked up is that? you don't get paid, the coaches and schools bring in hundreds of millions and kids forced to go to class? and giving the education to an athlete is basically free for the college, they just put another chair in the room and the kid gets free education, costs them a few hundred dollars to add the kid. sports dept pays for the room and board. btu i'd guess most would prefer just to play and not have to learn about things that have nothing to do with their career so saying they get $100k education means nothing and it only costs school a few hundred dollar. and an $100k history of french lit education doesn;t get you a job. degrees don't mean you'll get a job. most likely AI will do most thigns a human can so most jobs int he future will be serving people and making food.

so don't give me they need an education bulsh&4T, my friends who make the most money in life don't have college educations. they got connections and family members so having an education just gets you stuck in a middle class boring job. i never used my education and i've gone form being bankrupt to a multimillionaire in 25 years. so kids don't need an education, they need to be paid. where have you been the last 60 years, it's not amateur, it's forced slavery. it's coaches, presidents and AD's making millions in salaries and school making millions off kids they do not care about, don't care about concussions or future health, they've always paid these kids under the table tons of money, it's been big business forever and you're just so naive you think it's amateur sports. sorry, but open your eyes, it's been going on since ncaa started. big time athletes have been paid illegally, and there has never been a single day in college sports where athletes weren't paid an the fact that you think it was ever amateur sports just makes me sad that you are so clueless and it's the problem with our country. you cannot go back to something that never existed. just plain idiotic to ever think amateur sports for football and basketball ever existed. it's been pay for play for the top athletes and now everyone gets to share. this is not a MAGA situation, and just like MAGA the past was never what you thought it was, people are just too naive, too closeminded, or jsut too dumb to have any real thought to understand. the fact that i even have to explain it is so sad and why our country is where it is today. cluless, uneducated closeminded people telling us how things supposedly used to be and that's how it should be now when it never existed. sheep.
Dude, I can't even respond to that because we are apparently from different planets.

Universities don't exist so people can go there to play sports.
 
Everything is fluid. We'll see how it all shakes out. Can't really put a cap on their endorsement $. They aren't employees either. If you make 'em employees, you might have to share some TV revenue.
Since the colleges are now able to pay directly, they essentially are employees. These guys need to go get endorsement deals on their own
 
The settlement will force teams to play 20-22M to players for all sports. The NIL framework at that point should shift to its original intent. Players being paid for marketing their NIL. Not sure how they reel that back in.

The brands are still dominating the sports. They just do it differently. Follow the money. Now they are more vulnerable because the fluid nature of the portal. Bad choices in your roster good luck.

We are still in an emerging market. For example, teams that have deep pockets who haven’t really dove into sports are starting to invest because of the football playoff. SMU has had a ton of money sitting on the sidelines since the 80’s. Watch the 30-30 on the Pony Express. They were outspending Texas. As soon as they saw the playoff and ACC they pounced. They have opened the floodgates. UNC has now decided to invest in football. As the market matures more and more teams will invest. That will lead to talent getting even more spread out.

For Louisville to sustain they have to be near the top of the conference in NIL spend. As long as they are in that world they will have rosters that will compete. They probably need to get to 15M in football.
 
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