Sorry, lost track of your argument... Just say it.
If it's that Pitino has underperformed in the Final Four?... He's been there seven times and has two championships (0.286). A random walk through the Final Four should get you a 0.25 batting average since there are four teams there.
Pitino Lite has gotten there six times with one championship, a ratio of 0.167. Simple math.
Doubt that numbers that small are statistically significant, but they trend in the direction of my argument. More observations will see if the trend continues.
"Elite program", my a$$...
I don't understand how you think that feigning ignorance makes your case any more compelling. You know exactly what I was asking.
How can a mediocre coach come out with a +3 point differential over two games versus one of the greatest X and O guys in the game when the mediocre coach has two kids with high major offers on his roster and the great coach has one of the greatest rosters of all time? If Cal was mediocre, he wouldn't have split the series on neutral sites vs Rick and the '96 cats with one NBA player vs nine.
It simply doesn't make sense, and you discussing one particular ratio that you're interested in comparing (F4s vs championships, as opposed to say.. career win %, tournament win %, head to head numbers, or any win related stat since both guys have been at big boy schools, all of which favor Cal) does nothing to deal with the issue.
I actually have no problem with Louisville fans claiming that Rick is a better X and O guy than Cal.
I'm simply interested in the cognitive dissonance that goes into claiming that Cal is a mediocre coach based on relative results... like he should be undefeated because he has 6 five stars per roster (only matched by K) over the past 6 years, unlike that other batch of guys who languish in poverty with only 4-5 five stars per roster, whose results he completely blows out the water. It's a ludicrous argument.
We see what brilliant coaches with lesser talent look like - and except Rick, none of them are in the same universe as Cal results-wise now that Cal is at a big school. We also see what mediocre coaches with great talent look like - Barnes, Pastner, Jones, Drew, Rice, Romar, etc. We see esteemed coaches with All Americans to spare year after year who are not performing on Cal's level like Williams, Self, Miller, Matta, Donovan, etc.
If you look at recruiting and level of results since Cal has been at a big time school, there is only one coach in the game who is comparable to Cal in both respects. He and K are 1a and 1b in terms of sheer talent per roster and also results on the court. It doesn't make sense to put him in any of the above categories. His talent is not relatively modest like Rick or Izzo or Bo. But his performance is also not comparable to crappy coaches with elite talent like Pastner, nor to even "good" coaches with elite talent like Self.
