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I don’t think the voters pay much attention to who you’ve played and beat once you get out of the top 10. They’re looking at the wins vs losses at that point.

TopCatCal said:

The way you guys have looked over the last month, you look like a Top-25 team. College basketball is better when Louisville is good.

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Exactly! I just don't get Cards fans arguing against Louisville being ranked. It makes no sense, except only to be a contrarian to certain posters.

Louisville is second behind Duke in the ACC and gave the Blue Devils the best game of any other ACC team.

Louisville has won three conference road games, and beat both Clemson and UNC by double digits.

Louisville has zero bad losses with Oklahoma being the worst loss and that was the game Pryor was injured.

Louisville has played better since losing Pryor and Johnson which is unheard of.

Pat Kelsey is being talked about as coach of the year.

But despite all of this, the team doesn't deserve to be ranked in the top 25? And in the coaches poll they have only three votes.

If the Cards win both games this week, that would be 8 wins in a roll and a 16 and 5 record. They will still probably not be ranked in either poll as it looks now.

It's laughable anyone denying the obvious bias.

My concern is the depth and fatigue. Can these guys stay healthy? Can their legs hold out? Chucky plays a lot of minutes - can his body and mind weather the storm. It is a lot to ask.

The coaches poll is even more biased against Louisville. The Cards received just 3 votes. Yet both Clemson and West Virginia are teams that Louisville has beaten. WVU is ranked 25. Clemson has more votes.

UCLA has 6 losses and has 12 votes. Maryland has 4 losses and has 8 votes. Texas Tech has 4 losses and has 6 votes.

New Mexico and St. Mary's have more votes than Louisville.

What exactly is the reasoning for Louisville to have just three votes after what they have accomplished? It's simple bias and it's blatant.

shadow force said:

LOUISVILLE, Ky. - For the first time in over three years, the Louisville men's basketball program is at least getting mentioned in the Associated Press Top 25 Poll.

The Cardinals (12-5, 5-1 ACC) garnered 17 points in week 11 of the AP Top 25 to jump into the "others receiving votes" section, earning a de facto ranking of No. 30. It's Louisville's first time receiving votes in the AP Poll since getting two points in the 2021-22 Week Four poll.

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The way you guys have looked over the last month, you look like a Top-25 team. College basketball is better when Louisville is good.

nccardfan said:

Simple. There are only 4 teams in the top 25 that have 4 losses, UCONN (defending champions), Gonzaga (geez, look at their schedule), Illinois (ranked earlier in top 10) and Baylor. We have 5 losses.

They have noticed but its a long way from being ranked in the 300's to get back into the top 25... Think about that.

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No, no no. Each week the voters pick their top 25. There's no criteria that states a team has to work its way up to get ranked over time. They're supposed to evaluate the teams and their performance. What a teams former position on earlier polls should have NO bearing on the current week's poll.

An example would be what if the Cards beat Duke on the road instead of Pitt. Now I know that Duke would be a more impressive win, but Louisville would still have 5 losses, so to your theory, Louisville still shouldn't be ranked.

That makes no sense and some pretty big media pundits agree like Jay Bilas. A voter is supposed to consider only the current team's performance, not the year before, especially a team like Louisville that had ZERO players or coaches back from a year ago.

Take a look at the teams ranked 20 to 25 and ask yourself why those teams are ranked ahead of Louisville? The only sense it makes is the ongoing bias by voters against Louisville.

Wisconsin lost three in a roll to quad 1 and 2 teams and after winning 5 in a roll against lesser teams, are ranked.

Michigan has lost to Wake Forest and Arkansas, yet they're ranked.

Utah State? Yeah right.

Baylor is 1 and 4 against ranked teams and the rest of their wins have been mostly against non tournament teams. They're ranked #25. Why?

KozmasAgain said:

I also wish they would go more to the transition game instead of a half court game.

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Hard to do that when our bigs are slow getting up and down the court. Watch and you'll notice that if the play goes up and down a few times, Cochran and Harris are last up the court. Their inside game is supposed to be a strength but I think that is the weakness of this team. Jeff is trying to create the best situation for his young team.

Simple. There are only 4 teams in the top 25 that have 4 losses, UCONN (defending champions), Gonzaga (geez, look at their schedule), Illinois (ranked earlier in top 10) and Baylor. We have 5 losses.

They have noticed but its a long way from being ranked in the 300's to get back into the top 25... Think about that.

Time to end another losing streak to an ACC opponent. Syracuse has won the last 4 games in the series. CPK for Coach of the Year!

InstanKarma said:

It was an actually a female that kept him here. Didn’t want to leave his girlfriend and have a long distance relationship.

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Ugh! Not the answer I was expecting. You pick a college first for the academics they offer. Why? Because you're only an injury away from your athletic career ending but you will always have an education. 2nd, if you're an athlete, you pick the school because the HC believes in you and has your back. This is also a risk because as we all know, coaches can come and go. Last on the list is because of a girlfriend or boyfriend because relationships are so fragile especially at that age. If two people are committed to each other, they make the relationship work, no matter the location.

Again, well said Pervis!

Just a side note …… anyone familiar with what is going on between UL and UNC in terms of their joint research programs will tell you that UNC has become a huge advocate for UL. I am not going to stick my neck out by predicting how that will evolve in the future when it comes to conference affiliation, but I know firsthand the level of mutual respect between the two schools is unprecedented.

TheRealVille said:

What was effective for ND was Georgia having to start the "greenest" of QB's and it was pretty effective for the Penn State cornerback falling down and leaving open the receiver he was defending all alone for the tying touchdown.

OSU smoked both IU and Penn State this season and didn't need good luck and favorable flags to do it. ND should lose this game by double digits. But, as we all know, the better team doesn't always win.

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If you hate a team like ND, there will be plenty of reasons to minimize their accomplishments. Virtually every college football analysts looks at the OSU roster and will concede they have the very best talent, on paper they are clearly superior to ND. However, they were favored over Michigan inside the “shoe”, but lost in a game that was as meaningful as any game OSU a will ever play.

ND is playing for the coveted NC, and along with OSU they have navigated the most difficult route that any two (2) college football teams have ever taken to get there.

Again, I am no fan of ND, and I will be pulling for the Buckeyes ….. but I am not going to be the least bit surprised if ND plays OSU tough to the end. Anyone who denies ND deserving of being in this situation is simply not being objective.

I would be a liar if I said it does not matter to me. This response from outside media, and some opposing coaches reminds me of what UNLV experienced so many decades ago after “Tark the Shark” encountered the wrath of the NCAA. There remains a lot of disrespect over the inaccurate innuendo included in the FBI Report that made UL appear to be a chronic violator of NCAA rules.

I think Stanford could be a monster but they won’t invest in sports. It just isn’t part of their culture.

I agree with other ACC schools upset over adding Louisville. That is part of the reason the ACC is in trouble. They haven’t fully shifted their focus to investing in their main sports. I also think their academic policies have had a negative impact on their alumni that support athletics.

Wake, UVA, UNC, Stanford, Cal and Duke have significant access to alumni money they just don’t invest in athletics except basketball. Even then they don’t invest at level needed in this new era.

The ACC being this bad in basketball is all related to NIL spend. Does Bennett retire if UVA fully committed to NIL? These are academic institutions that play college sports. Louisville is an academic institution that invests in college sports. Completely different agendas. For Louisville, sports is a marketing tool to increase enrollment. The ACC doesn’t need any help with enrollment they turn people away.

There are no signs of that changing and maybe it shouldn’t but at the core that is why the ACC is in trouble.

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Yes it's nice, but we need to move on from comparing the past two seasons to what this team is. For me it was in the Battle for Atlantis that I knew this was a whole new deal for Louisville basketball.

But at the same time, Louisville is still a elite level program and it should be treated like one by the so called basketball experts. As I've said over and over, what exactly is it keeping the Cards out of these voters top 25? The five losses?

This six game winning streak is current and it shows multiple Quad 1 and 2 wins, most by double digits. How long does it take for the voters to notice? Apparently they only now do but they're not convinced so they omit Louisville from the top 25.

That's BS no matter how you slice it.

It's ridiculous. People like Jay Bilas says it's absurd Louisville isn't ranked. What do they have to do? Why are there reservations?

I agree the AP and coaches polls mean little but they are like grades each week during a long season. Having that number next to your name means you're a good team. The higher the number the better team you are.

As for the NET or any other computer ranking, why is Louisville in the 30's? Why aren't they in the 20's with the strength of schedule and no bad losses? They also have at least 4 quad 1 & 2 wins.

What do these voters want? Do they not look ahead and see Louisville's remaining schedule and notice it's nowhere near as difficult as it was through the first six ACC games?

Shouldn't they expect Louisville to win more games? It's not like some team getting ranked after starting 10 and 1 with 7 cupcake wins, only to have a rugged remaining schedule against multiple ranked teams.

There shouldn't be any doubt that Louisville is a top 25 team and why they're hesitant to vote for the Cards leads to accusations of bias.

Not surprising to me that Siva has him firmly under his wing and Chucky taking those best parts of his game.
I hope Chucky takes it up another notch over the next two months and replicates Peyton's last run.

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