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Louisville Vs Kentucky Discussion Thread

I don't really give a damn who does it--but if I were a betting man the odds-on-favorite would be Dwayne Sutton--but if the first loose ball tomorrow is won by a UK player I'd put everybody that watched and witnessed it on the bench.

Win that first one, set the tone.
 
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@CardsvsCats2019 , if you read the Rivals rules at the stickies at the top of the page.....you might understand why somethings had to change on this Free Board. This is no longer a free for all over run by KY fans.

They are not my rules as some ignorant folks have claimed on KY boards and Main Board.
 
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I am MMACard from the other site. Was Cardman1971 before they switched over & usernames were lost. Been posting on Cards forums for a decade, and have watched our fanbase slowly become more and more like those posting on Catspause, where anyone that challenges or questions a coach or player, is labeled a troll.

Who would I have preferred we hired? I’m not sure I have an honest answer to that question. All I know is, I wasn’t as hyped about the Mack hire as most because his Xavier teams tended to give up a lot of points in big games, folded early in the tournament, and I didn’t like how he handled that brawl situation against Cincy. Like I said, I want nothing more than for him to prove me wrong. Big time. Beating UK this year, with a better team, would be a start. A run to the FF would go a long way.
Didn’t answer the question. I think most Card fans can say who they would have liked to see interviewed for the head coach and their reasons, if they were truly following the program.
 
@CardsvsCats2019 , if you read the Rivals rules at the stickies at the top of the page.....you might understand why somethings had to change on this Free Board. This is no longer a free for all over run by KY fans.

They are not my rules as some ignorant folks have claimed on KY boards and Main Board.

Have I violated TOS?
 
Have I violated TOS?

No I didn't say you did. You were questioning Steelers and myself and I thought it might be a good idea for you to be aware of the stickies. We aren't a group of rah rah folks. We disagree often but it's not a trash talking social media free for all. It's taken hours of all mods to clear out troubles on this board. We did this to make it a comfortable place for all UofL fans, including UofL lurkers who didn't want to be a part of all the trash posting.

You have ruffled some feathers. Are you closely related to zipp? :DHe's our specialist at ruffling feathers. ;)
 
No I didn't say you did. You were questioning Steelers and myself and I thought it might be a good idea for you to be aware of the stickies. We aren't a group of rah rah folks. We disagree often but it's not a trash talking social media free for all. It's taken hours of all mods to clear out troubles on this board. We did this to make it a comfortable place for all UofL fans, including UofL lurkers who didn't want to be a part of all the trash posting.

You have ruffled some feathers. Are you closely related to zipp? :DHe's our specialist at ruffling feathers. ;)

Gotcha and can appreciate what you’re trying to accomplish here. Apologies for ruffling feathers, but Christ, if saying I wasn’t a huge fan of the Mack hire gets some here so triggered, I don’t think that’s a me problem. That’s a them problem.

Now Satt & Company. I’m all-in in those guys. They are the real deal.
 
Gotcha and can appreciate what you’re trying to accomplish here. Apologies for ruffling feathers, but Christ, if saying I wasn’t a huge fan of the Mack hire gets some here so triggered, I don’t think that’s a me problem. That’s a them problem.

Now Satt & Company. I’m all-in in those guys. They are the real deal.
No it’s not a them problem. You can’t just throw barbs at the coaches/players without some logical reasoning and you need to be able to defend what you say..
 
No it’s not a them problem. You can’t just throw barbs at the coaches/players without some logical reasoning and you need to be able to defend what you say..

I gave multiple reasons. Settle down long enough to read without getting so defensive. Deep breath. If you don't agree with the reasons that I gave, I'd be happy to respectfully debate that with you.
 
Gotcha and can appreciate what you’re trying to accomplish here. Apologies for ruffling feathers, but Christ, if saying I wasn’t a huge fan of the Mack hire gets some here so triggered, I don’t think that’s a me problem. That’s a them problem.

Now Satt & Company. I’m all-in in those guys. They are the real deal.

Gun shy Red & Black fans and you showed up on the board after Ky kicked our butts in FB. Cats in a user name is a warning and causes distrust esp when you call out one of our own. Like CCM or not, he is one of our own but folks will be grumbling if he loses this game tomorrow. Go Cards!
 
Here @nccardfan:

1) Gave up a lot of points in big games at Xavier
2) Got bounced early a lot a Xavier
3) Allowed his players to come out to the press conference after the Cincy brawl and act like fools.
4) Gave up a 20 pt lead with 10 min to play against Duke last year. Did nothing to adjust to their press.
5) The debacle against Minnesota

There. Tell me why I shouldn't have concerns.
 
I also question the timing of his presence, right before the Cards/kitties game and what kind of screen name is Cardsvscats2019 when it is almost 2020? Wasn’t well thought of that’s for sure!
 
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Gun shy Red & Black fans and you showed up on the board after Ky kicked our butts in FB. Cats in a user name is a warning and causes distrust esp when you call out one of our own. Like CCM or not, he is one of our own but folks will be grumbling if he loses this game tomorrow. Go Cards!

The second post that I made here explained the SN. I created the account fully expecting to bust their ass in football, and I was planning to rail them on their board. I got banned here after 2 posts, and then reinstated (thank you, BTW). I can't do anything about the SN now, unless you would like to change it to MMACard for me. Agree, CCM is who's here and he's one of our own. As a person, I think he's great. Awesome dad, good husband, down to earth. Like I said, I think the hire was a good one in terms of him being able to stabilize the program...plus, Christy being from here, etc. It made sense. I'm just not sold on him being someone that can win championships here, yet. I hope he proves me wrong.
 
I too had doubts but I don’t get to make the call and I was able to accept him by following him and listening to him. My hope is we will have our 3rd HOF coach. High expectations but this is Louisville MBB.
 
Honest question. Is this the way this site is ran? You, PHCARD (who liked your post) and the other Mods bait people, use Mod status to justify the abrasiveness, and then ban them when they push back? I'm honestly trying to figure out how to navigate this place.

This site has the most user friendly platform available (I built my MMA forum with it), and reaches a pretty large audience via radio & social media. One would think it would be the most populated board for Cards fans, but yet it doesn't have a lot of traffic. I've wondered why and have briefly discussed how to change that with Ennis offline, because I'd love to see it grow & Mark do well in the process. I'm beginning to wonder if it's because you all run people off with the abrasiveness, baiting, and expectations of everyone having the same opinions.

Now, to answer your question. UK is a mess right now. We have a better team for once. Mack needs to have the guys ready to go in there and win this game, period.
A pretty emotional reaction to a benign 2 letter question. Just out of pure curiosity IMO, the statement that “Mack better win this game” begged the follow up as to what the consequence be if the game is not won. Nothing more; nothing less.
 
Here @nccardfan:

1) Gave up a lot of points in big games at Xavier
2) Got bounced early a lot a Xavier
3) Allowed his players to come out to the press conference after the Cincy brawl and act like fools.
4) Gave up a 20 pt lead with 10 min to play against Duke last year. Did nothing to adjust to their press.
5) The debacle against Minnesota

There. Tell me why I shouldn't have concerns.
And each one of those points can be countered by Ricks when he was coaching multiple bridge years nit etc from a HOF coach who couldnt beat UK.
 
And each one of those points can be countered by Ricks when he was coaching multiple bridge years nit etc from a HOF coach who couldnt beat UK.

Couldn't care less about Rick. Loved the man, but he's gone & not coming back. My comments were about Mack. and they still stand.
 
Couldn't care less about Rick. Loved the man, but he's gone & not coming back. My comments were about Mack. and they still stand.

Comments I would add is that CCM is still a relatively a young, head coach. Went to 8 (in 9 years) NCAA tourneys at Xavier and resulting in 3 sweet 16's and an Elite 8. If you look across the landscape and compare the resume's of coaches in their first 7-10 years and I don't think there is that large of a gap. Love the hire, not sure who would have been better that was hireable, and think he absolutely can win championships here. Understanding how to build the momentum for a strong March finish isn't an easy thing to accomplish, especially playing in a league like the ACC, but I feel pretty darn confident he can and will accomplish that.
 
Comments I would add is that CCM is still a relatively a young, head coach. Went to 8 (in 9 years) NCAA tourneys at Xavier and resulting in 3 sweet 16's and an Elite 8. If you look across the landscape and compare the resume's of coaches in their first 7-10 years and I don't think there is that large of a gap. Love the hire, not sure who would have been better that was hireable, and think he absolutely can win championships here. Understanding how to build the momentum for a strong March finish isn't an easy thing to accomplish, especially playing in a league like the ACC, but I feel pretty darn confident he can and will accomplish that.
Sometimes you have to look at what’s there and do with what’s the best decision at the time.

Our last 2 coaches were HOF coaches that won multiple national titles. We weren’t a big time program when we got Denny, but he was under Wooden and the best hire we could make and it paid off.

Rick Pitino was the best coach in the nation who had ties to our state/city. We had a good tradition and a great fan base, with money to pay him big. It was truly a rare scenario that we were able to get a coach line Rick.

Chris Mack is not Rick Pitino, but then again nobody can be on that level. Who out there would’ve been a home run hire better than Mack? Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan weren’t coming to college. Bruce Pearl already had FBI investigation ties. Jay Wright and Tony Bennett weren’t leaving heir jobs. No one knew who Chris Beard was at the time.

Chris Mack was perfect. Had just come off a #1 seed and an elite 8 season in his final 2 years at Xavier. He was young and a good recruiter. Had ties to the area. He just had the right fit after all the bad things going on the last 3-4 years.

Now is Mack going to be a hall of Famer? Who knows?! But it’s an inexact science finding a great coach. UCLA and Indiana are still looking for their next great coach. sUcKs had Tubby and Gillispie. UNC had Doeherty. Kansas went 20 years in between titles. UConn thought they found their guy in Ollie.

Denny Crum was a risk we took on an assistant and it worked. Rick Pitino happened by a very lucky circumstance and hard work by TJ.

Mack I don’t think will be anywhere near Rick, but Rick won a title and got to 3 Final Fours in 16 years, 3 other Elite Eights. That was a successful run, so let’s keep it in perspective on what our definition of success will be when comparing the 2 coaches. Pitino’s don’t grow on trees, but we do expect success with the money we are paying Mack. I’m hoping for the best.
 
^ This. But would like to add one tidbit of info. Before joining Wooden as his assistant....Crum was a highly successful HC at I believe Pierce JC in, I believe L.A., without doing a google search.

So he had HC experience and learned from one of the all time great coaches in HOF 'the Wizard of Westbrook' John Wooden.

And believe me, I am far from a UCLA fan as you can get.:rolleyes:;)
 
So a run to the FF would “go a long way”. WOW, you are just full of yourself ain’t you bud. And who are you to determine what is intelligent and respectful debate? Let us remember it was you that “Mack better win this game”. Or what! Please “respectfully” let us know or what. Look I understand your passion and am truly appreciative of your passion but you are coming off a bit strong in this particular thread. Maybe it is you that should dial it down a tad. I think you’ll find me a pretty agreeable sort after you get to know me, Most on here have.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
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So a run to the FF would “go a long way”. WOW, you are just full of yourself ain’t you bud. And who are you to determine what is intelligent and respectful debate? Let us remember it was you that “Mack better win this game”. Or what! Please “respectfully” let us know or what. Look I understand your passion and am truly appreciative of your passion but you are coming off a bit strong in this particular thread. Maybe it is you that should dial it down a tad. I think you’ll find me a pretty agreeable sort after you get to know me, Most on here have.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

Yeah, you seem like the really level headed and agreeable sort. I wasn’t suggesting anyone agree with my opinion. Everyone has a God given right to their own opinions. All I asked was respectfully debate, instead of attacking me...which is what happened immediately in this thread, when people couldn’t fathom someone would have some concerns about CCM.
 
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I honestly haven't felt this good about the game in a long time. UK with the refs will keep the game close early but they just aren't a good team. Plus there's no longer the Pitino factor.

I honestly think we win by 10 - 15. It'll be close the first half but we pull away the second half.
 
Ice cold, looks like another L. 8pts ain't a lot normally but it's a damn mountain in Rupp.
 
Yeah, you seem like the really level headed and agreeable sort. I wasn’t suggesting anyone agree with my opinion. Everyone has a God given right to their own opinions. All I asked was respectfully debate, instead of attacking me...which is what happened immediately in this thread, when people couldn’t fathom someone would have some concerns about CCM.

looks like you were right about your concerns with CCM
 
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