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Wonder if the FBI is looking for bigger fish?

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With the exception of Louisville and Arizona no significant collegiate basketball programs have been mentioned so far. Makes you wonder how large the catch would be if the Feds did a thorough investigation of the Nike reps and their AAU affiliates. I bet some big, big time programs are going to have a tough time sleeping tonight.
 
I don't know about not being able to sleep but if any university has been in the wrong the hammer will come. Having the FBI involved is basically a death sentence. Along with the raid that happened this afternoon I'm sure those computer files have more on them that will get people talking.

I think it's still the tip of the iceberg for many programs. You are absolutely right.
 
I doubt if very many college basketball coaches slept well last night.

This scandal will cross over into football also, I believe.

In both basketball and football, their are many decisions by recruits to sign with certain schools that "raises eyebrows". There are too many "street agents" and "runners" in recruiting circles.

I laughed when I read this morning that NCAA will conduct an investigation into all this stuff.They have known for years, it's been going on, but they looked other the way, and just counted their money.
 
Agents have more access to players through AAU and basketball then football. All you have to do for football is play high school and go to a couple of camps and you are in. While in basketball, players are very vulnerable with high school basketball, AAU,and special camps, international tournaments. The list goes on when sleazeball agents can twist innocent kids into thinking life can be great with money.
 
There's a lot of 7 on 7 camps now, that are controlled by rogue individuals, and funded by sporting goods companies. Plus places like IGM Academy that brings in players from all over the nation. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
 
I think this is all a setup by a school jealous of UL's success. Can't beat UL in recruiting or in the field. They found a way off the competitive fields. I'm thinking there are a lot of high profile backers of UK. Wouldn't surprise me if they had someone on the inside in government. High, high up.
 
I think this is all a setup by a school jealous of UL's success. Can't beat UL in recruiting or in the field. They found a way off the competitive fields. I'm thinking there are a lot of high profile backers of UK. Wouldn't surprise me if they had someone on the inside in government. High, high up.
Dude, careful now. Your pointy foil tin hat is starting to shine. :D
 
Dude, careful now. Your pointy foil tin hat is starting to shine. :D
You don't think it's possible? Somebody somewhere knows something. I think FBI will get to the bottom of it and UL won't look so bad when all the evidence is shown.
 
You don't think it's possible? Somebody somewhere knows something. I think FBI will get to the bottom of it and UL won't look so bad when all the evidence is shown.
Not really. You said 'can't beat UofL (actually you said UL) in recruiting, and that in itself is false. UofK has beat the snot out of most everyone in recruiting. If anything, the fact UofK beats the snot out of everyone in recruiting should shine a light on them, not UofL.
 
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Not really. You said 'can't beat UofL (actually you said UL) in recruiting, and that in itself is false. UofK has beat the snot out of most everyone in recruiting. If anything, the fact UofK beats the snot out of everyone in recruiting should shine a light on them, not UofL.
I guess you have a point. It does seem they are always out to get UL. The NCAA on down. Tired of this bs. Just let these kids play ball!
 
With the exception of Louisville and Arizona no significant collegiate basketball programs have been mentioned so far. Makes you wonder how large the catch would be if the Feds did a thorough investigation of the Nike reps and their AAU affiliates. I bet some big, big time programs are going to have a tough time sleeping tonight.

Not a Cards fan (but a sympathetic area resident)...this is just the tip of the iceberg. Anyone that's been around basketball, AAU, the shoe company tournaments etc can tell you it is sleazy as hell. This is going to get ugly.
 
With the exception of Louisville and Arizona no significant collegiate basketball programs have been mentioned so far. Makes you wonder how large the catch would be if the Feds did a thorough investigation of the Nike reps and their AAU affiliates. I bet some big, big time programs are going to have a tough time sleeping tonight.


Usually in criminal investigations, you do start out with guppies to get to the big fish.

Hopefully the FBI can finally expose the crap going on at the two bleu schools along with bama in football.

This crap has been going on for 30 years, ( Paying players with 100 dollar handshakes , goes back to the 1940s) by the AAU coaches and shoe companies, largely nike and adidas. Players, family members , hanger ons and handlers.

Its been a dirty business. UofL is not even a major player. We know who the big 3 are..........
 
The problem is, the FBI doesn't have video and wiretaps of any other schools.........
 
Well you arrest those you know you have the goods on so they don't flee. Kind of dangerous to not arrest everyone you are taling...
 
Well you arrest those you know you have the goods on so they don't flee. Kind of dangerous to not arrest everyone you are taling...
C'mon Coolioo. We're not talking about people wanted for murder here. All I know is that if there are any college coaches or administrators that have been dealing under the table lately, I'd be nervous.

You might be right. Who knows?
 
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Marquis teague and that 2012 kentucky team is the best bet as the fbi siezed his agents computer. His brother got that nike deal right after he went to a nike school.

Generally Federal criminal RICO actions are interpreted to have a 5 year statute of limitations, unless a state has passed a "baby RICO" with a differing SOL. I don't think Kentucky ever passed a "Baby RICO."

So speculate on this involving Kentucky (or anyone else). But whilst speculating, focus on 2013 as your starting point.
 
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I think this is all a setup by a school jealous of UL's success. Can't beat UL in recruiting or in the field. They found a way off the competitive fields. I'm thinking there are a lot of high profile backers of UK. Wouldn't surprise me if they had someone on the inside in government. High, high up.
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I think this is all a setup by a school jealous of UL's success.

It ain't paranoia if they really are out to get you.

This crap has been going on for 30 years, ( Paying players with 100 dollar handshakes , goes back to the 1940s)

Centre won a "National Championship" with three All Americans from Texas, quite openly paid to play ball in Danville, Kentucky . . . .

This crap predates the 40's.
 
With the exception of Louisville and Arizona no significant collegiate basketball programs have been mentioned so far. Makes you wonder how large the catch would be if the Feds did a thorough investigation of the Nike reps and their AAU affiliates. I bet some big, big time programs are going to have a tough time sleeping tonight.

The FBI is ALWAYS looking for bigger fish. And the FBI, well, they fish with dynamite.
 
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The FBI couldn't care less about the NCAA.

Pitino and Louisville were collateral damage in a federal wire fraud and money laundering investigation. Nobody from U of L will get arrested because they didn't break any laws.

College coaches are not "big fish" to the FBI. They're nothing. They're after the real players - the shoe reps and AAU sponsors that move money around illegally.
 
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