First betting spreads have been released. UofL is an underdog in 5 games (Ole Miss, Clemson, UCF, FSU, UK).
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I like our chances vs uahkay and free shoes university and I have questions about UCF and Ole Miss. But zero questions about Clemson as they should kick our azz. I believe I’d wait for a couple game results before casting my “fortune”😂 on any game.🙄😎
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Lol!!!! you and me both.
One rag is getting UK going 6-0 before losing to Georgia.
That means the Cats beat the three OOC cakes along with Missouri, Florida and LSU....and leans out to a 10 win regular season. Possible Sugar Bowl.
If that happens, I'll drive up to Louisville and invite you guys out for a beer.
I think my money is safe.
One rag is getting UK going 6-0 before losing to Georgia.
That means the Cats beat the three OOC cakes along with Missouri, Florida and LSU....and leans out to a 10 win regular season. Possible Sugar Bowl.
If that happens, I'll drive up to Louisville and invite you guys out for a beer.
I think my money is safe.
I have no confidence in winning any of the non conference games except for EKU. UCF with good coaching and a good QB in Wimbush. The talent is close to even maybe with UCF having the slight edge but they have a legitimate coach. Kentucky has won by 100 the last 2 games and Ole Miss has a powerful offensive attack with great talent.
You are making two mistakes. One, you’re giving uahkay far too much credit for those two losses and two, Ole Myth just isn’t a SEC powerhouse.
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There isn’t credit to be given. We still have the same issues with a matchup against Kentucky that we did 2-3 years ago. The talent along the trenches just doesn’t matchup. Ole miss isn’t an SEC powerhouse but that doesn’t matter. They’re an average SEC program which means that have the talent of a top 2-3 program in the ACC. That’s what some on here don’t understand. There’s a talent gap between the 2 conferences. You can’t say “oh they’re a middling SEC team so they aren’t good.”
Middling in the SEC isnt the same as middling in the ACC. Whoever made this schedule screwed up. It’s doing no favors for anyone.
Well I choose to be positive rather than negative. We’ll see in a couple of years. If you want to be a big SEC fan then so be it. I’ll just remind you that middling and below SEC teams are not powerhouses and that includes both Old Myth and uahkay.
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Ole Miss has about fifteen 4-stars/5-stars...similar to Va Tech. Less talent on paper than Clemson, FSU, Miami and North Carolina. Actually pretty close to State. so talent wise you're looking at the equivalent of a middling ACC team. Like the other poster said, Ole Miss isn't an SEC powerhouse. They wouldn't be top 2 or 3 program in the ACC either.
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That’s not middling that’s the upper tier of the ACC. They finished 8th in the SEC. just to put things in perspective.
I won’t even get into Kentucky. You’d be surprised at how many 4 and 5 stars they have on their roster.
They don’t have to be powerhouses to beat undersized young teams full of guys that aren’t that talented. That’s the entire problem right now. The linebackers and DBs are way too small. The defensive line is starting to come together but it’s still not good.
Wow I’d love to be as “knowledgeable” about college football as you are but I’ve only been around for about 60 of my years as a football fan. Most of which I’ve followed UofL and uahkay and neither of them have ever truly been considered a football powerhouse. Good years yes, but a football powerhouse, never. Please tell me and the rest of the UofL fans how many SEC football titles uahkay has won? They are simply a pretender in the SEC.
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When Louisville is rolling they can play with anybody regardless of league affiliation/comparisons. This has been proven the last couple of decades.
The problem is right now Louisville is not rolling.
The problem is right now Louisville is not rolling.
I thought we closed out last season on a positive note and a good number of those kids will be back. I’m positive about this upcoming team.
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You said Ole Miss has the talent of a top 2-3 team in the ACC - they don't. They have considerably less talent than Clemson, FSU, Miami and North Carolina and roughly the same number of 4-star and 5-star players as Va Tech, NC State and Ga Tech. I feel like most people would consider that not top tier because they're clearly in that mix of teams 5-7. Where they finish is a separate argument. Talent wise - they'd be closer to middle of the road ACC. UK has slightly more, but not by a lot.
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^You're right about there being a talent gap. BUT, it's at the top...the SEC has more playoff contenders. The middling teams are pretty close.
I think you're right. Last year feels like so long ago. The Cards played tough @ ND and did put some good wins together. I got to admit I'm not up to speed on the roster.
I’m not talking about powerhouses I’m talking about the matchup. A pretender in the SEC is a contender in the ACC. I don’t see what is so hard to understand about that. The ACC is not and has not been good for the better part of 5-6 years.
You can choose to be negative under the guise of being realistic. I choose to be positive but that’s just me being me.
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Balderdash.
Its been Bama and the CU Tigers and everybody else with one exception being LSU.
The ACC was good enough competition to prepare CU for NC's and FF games just as the SEC prepared Bama/LSU.
All the others are also rans with the SEC also rans getting the most hype year in and year out. Ole Piss is just that just another SEC wannabe also ran. UK too.
The media keeps giving the hype and the self fulfilling prophecy lives on and in the SEC fans mind.
Not all CFB fans buy that dribble of the pretender in the SEC is a contender in the ACC or other P5 leagues.
It is a myth and impossible to validate since those teams will likely never move from the SEC to the ACC or vice a versa to prove it.
BL: Live in your fantasy world and others who dissent will live in theirs. To each their own poison. GO peddle your SEC dribble on the Cats Pause site. Not accepted here.
I think most everybody can concede the SEC is the #1 league, but I think many do get carried away with just how good it is sometimes, and also get carried away with how bad the ACC is, and/or how bad other leagues are/were. I've seen very average Louisville teams beat A&M and Miss St not so long ago. Are we to believe those SEC "pretenders" would be "contenders" in the ACC when they couldn't even beat a middling Louisville?I've also seen a very avg Auburn whip UofL, and UGA do the same. There are going to be scores to support opinions.
I think a lot of scores are random more matchup of systems based, and outcomes might depend on how teams are doing when they play at that time, and not enough sample of H2H between leagues to really know how they stack up for sure.
Big 10 has had it's share of crap when getting out of their comfort zone, but media doesn't get after them so much, I guess that's politics and/or bias.
I think the reality is the truth is somewhere in-between on the differing of opinions.
I think a lot of scores are random more matchup of systems based, and outcomes might depend on how teams are doing when they play at that time, and not enough sample of H2H between leagues to really know how they stack up for sure.
Big 10 has had it's share of crap when getting out of their comfort zone, but media doesn't get after them so much, I guess that's politics and/or bias.
I think the reality is the truth is somewhere in-between on the differing of opinions.
You know things are going good when you start hearing things from opponents fans like "We/they were disinterested", I really hope we can start hearing that stuff again soon 
Anybody else remember when some UK fans bashed the Big East on the reg, then they played a very mediocre team from the Big East PITT in a bowl, and got stomped? Maybe 10 years ago, not like, ancient history.
It's just lazy to say "this league good, this league bad" etc...
That said, UofL has a tough schedule this year, that they do.
It's just lazy to say "this league good, this league bad" etc...
That said, UofL has a tough schedule this year, that they do.
Last year the SEC was one fantastic team, two good ones and everybody else. Had a good bowl record but that was just matchups rather than dominance.
PLUS: the Covid year is an anomaly
This season will be interesting.
PLUS: the Covid year is an anomaly
This season will be interesting.
Ole Miss best win last couple years is Indiana in a bowl game without their starting QB. They recruit at about the same level as NC State. None of the polls or ratings suggest they'd be favored to win either the Coastal or the Atlantic. But, hey man, if you wanna keep calling them contenders - I say go nuts!! Lol
My concern playing Ole Miss is they have a good returning QB and a system that can fire up some points. I think they lost their top WR to the draft not sure what's next in line for them there. Cards secondary last few years has not been too good, do fans see real improvement in this area for this year's team? If yes who/how so?
Don't get me wrong - I think they're well coached. It's just that losing to Alabama, UGA, UF etc every year is nothing to hang your hat on.
This is about right. SEC is the best college football conference. They recruit the best. They pour a ton of money into their football programs. They send players to the league. They have a lot of history and a winning tradition to back them up. Their fans show up to games. I wish the ACC was from top-to-bottom what the SEC is in football, but we're not. We probably won't be anytime soon....maybe never. We're just different. They are the best. I have no problem admitting that as a fan of an ACC school. I don't follow the whole conference fandom deal. And frankly it's the truth.
HOWEVER, taking an objective, non-bias look at the two conferences...You got UGA, Bama, UF and LSU most years. Those four teams, if you line them up against the top four from any other conference - SEC will win. It might be close sometimes - like the last time Miami played UF. But the SEC wins on average against ANY OTHER CONFERENCE. And that makes the conference much stronger as a whole.
The middling and lower tier teams, though, are pretty close. There's not a lot of separation in the recruiting rankings year-after-year with those teams. And there's not a huge difference between classes ranked in that borderline top 25, 30, 40 range. Not like there is between top 25 and top 15. Which is why it's usually a fairly close game when those teams face each other - UK, State, Va Tech, South Carolina, UVA...
I know they're your rivals, but it's much easier to make an argument for UK fairing better in the ACC. They're one of those middling SEC teams trending up. They do play in the east which is down a bit imo, but they have won some games. Stoops is a good coach and they're recruiting at a higher level now than previously. But to put things in perspective - State was 4-3 against the Coastal last year...beat Pitt by one point, lost to North Carolina (badly), Va Tech (badly), and Miami. They did have some injuries towards the end of the season...probably had no business being ranked. And either way, it's difficult to take a lot away from bowl games - just a recent comparison.
College football is a cyclical thing....being in my early 60s I remember when the Southwest with Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska and Arkansas was the home of football. The Big10 when it was ten with Ohio State and Michigan. The west with USC and UCLA.
And of course, independants... Notre Dame, Florida State, Miami
Right now football is a south/southeastern sport.
Next couple years, who knows?
And of course, independants... Notre Dame, Florida State, Miami
Right now football is a south/southeastern sport.
Next couple years, who knows?
I remember when they mocked C-USA and we stomped them.
I think it will stay like that for a while. People move a lot more now than they did in the past. Hardly anyone stays at the same job for more than 2-3 years. Raleigh, Nashville, Atlanta etc have grown a lot.
It’s not really the same and clearly the ACC didn’t get Clemson ready for anything the last 2 years. Regardless I’m not getter by into “oh you’re a Kentucky fan argument.” Just because someone doesn’t think this team is going to win 8-9 games and shock the world doesn’t mean they’re a Uk fan.
Its the bowl record and nfl draft picks every year. That’s not just a one year thing. They’re dominating the other conferences.
The sheer amount of draft picks states otherwise. In 2018 they were winning 70% of the bowl games since 2008. They’ve won 68% of their bowl games since 2018. You do the math man.
I think 7-8 wins needs to be the mark every year.
I think we have one guaranteed loss (Clemson), one guaranteed win (EKU) and 10 games that could go either way.
I like us to win at least half of them. So ultimately, I think we win 6 and have a shot to make it 7 with a bowl win.
I think we have one guaranteed loss (Clemson), one guaranteed win (EKU) and 10 games that could go either way.
I like us to win at least half of them. So ultimately, I think we win 6 and have a shot to make it 7 with a bowl win.
I don't think anyone would argue the SEC isn't the best football conference. It's that Bama, LSU, UGA and UF having record numbers of NFL draft picks, and winning bowl games, or national championships doesn't mean that Ole Miss, UK, or whichever other team finishing 6th, 7th or 8th would go to the ACCCG.
So, if there is a proclamation that the $EC is the best FB conference ever known to man.....should someone pass you a towel?
