The simple reality is...

[glassmanJ]

the team is playing hard, fighting hard, and learning but just not getting the full four quarter game in but i see that overall, the program is in better hands since the last doucher was let go. no matter our record, satt gets one more year so he has seniors he recruited. we could be 8-3 this year, 3-8 or anywhere in between. imagine if we had a qb who didn't constantly injure himself and we could count on. but the defense has been outstanding they are just gassed as the offense is not putting the games away at the right times. and can i say how many times can fagot get ejected for targeting? but overall, despite the kick in the nuts saturday, i think we're still on the right path

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Cowherd says it best in this tweet about another program. Although Satt trying to leave makes it a bit different, point remains. This program isn't where it was in 2012-2013. It isn't the team Lamar carried it to in 2016, because we don't have Lamar.

Not saying Satt is great or should be here forever. But, the issue Bobby left us with was depth, recruiting balance, and culture. Satt has the base with all the first and second year guys. Lets just see it move forward a bit. And if in 1-2 years he still isn't the guy? Well it'll be a more attractive job with a better roster and we'll have shown we'll give a coach 4-5 years to build. Firing him after year 3 would make people hesitate. Not to mention we don't have the money to buyout another coach to fire and then go get a Jeff Brohm type if we're being honest.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Lots of FR/So on the roster.

 

[Knucklehank1]

The only way you’d get rid of him this year is if Jeff Brohm has agreement in place with UofL. Otherwise, you let Satt continue to solidify our foundation. I do t think he’s a long term coach here but it’ll be turned over to next guy in better shape than when he got here.

 

[CardX]

Cowherd says it best in this tweet about another program. Although Satt trying to leave makes it a bit different, point remains. This program isn't where it was in 2012-2013. It isn't the team Lamar carried it to in 2016, because we don't have Lamar.

Not saying Satt is great or should be here forever. But, the issue Bobby left us with was depth, recruiting balance, and culture. Satt has the base with all the first and second year guys. Lets just see it move forward a bit. And if in 1-2 years he still isn't the guy? Well it'll be a more attractive job with a better roster and we'll have shown we'll give a coach 4-5 years to build. Firing him after year 3 would make people hesitate. Not to mention we don't have the money to buyout another coach to fire and then go get a Jeff Brohm type if we're being honest.

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Word of advice: never, ever use Cowherd as a source or reference. He’s a clown of the worst kind, a detriment to sports on all levels. He’s a cancer.

 

[TheRealVille]

I agree unless the wheels completely fall off these last three games. If Brohm was interested in leaving Purdue next season for Louisville, it would happen. Other than that, Satterfield is here for at least another season.

But if the Cards lose all three and finish 4 and 8 with another loss to Kentucky, the outrage would be rather fierce.

 

[Cardiac Red]

I just don't get the people fawning over Brohm. He basically pissed on us when he had the chance to come here.

At PeeU he has gone
7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
6-3 this year so far.

Our fans would've had him fired after those 3 straight losing seasons.

Why do you all want him ? I'm interested to hear why.

 

[Knucklehank1]

I just don't get the people fawning over Brohm. He basically pissed on us when he had the chance to come here.

At PeeU he has gone
7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
6-3 this year so far.

Our fans would've had him fired after those 3 straight losing seasons.

Why do you all want him ? I'm interested to hear why.

In the four years prior to Brohm, Purdue was 9-39. They were certainly one of the worst P5 programs. He quickly upgraded the roster by recruiting playmakers. He runs a fun offense and coaches aggressively. This has helped galvanize and injected energy into the Purdue fan base.
Obviously the ties to UofL run deep (although that hasn’t always worked out ie: Scott Frost). He clearly understands the UofL fan base. I think if you look at what appeals to our fan base, he fits the bill - coaches with a chip on his shoulder, plays an exciting brand of offense, recruits the city very well, displays strong passion for the game.

 

[TheRealVille]

I just don't get the people fawning over Brohm. He basically pissed on us when he had the chance to come here.

At PeeU he has gone
7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
6-3 this year so far.

Our fans would've had him fired after those 3 straight losing seasons.

Why do you all want him ? I'm interested to hear why.

Now how silly can you be? Brohm has beaten two top 5 teams this season alone and he's beaten a couple more in the past few years including Ohio State.

And he's done it without any big time star QB in a top conference like the Big 10. His offense is creative and the only thing keeping him from being one of the top coaches is being at Purdue. A program that has had less results the past 20 years than Louisville.

Whether he ever becomes the coach at Louisville he will be at a much bigger program than Purdue very soon. I don't understand how any knowledgeable college football fan doesn't see his potential greatness. He certainly is head and shoulders above Scott Satterfield.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Yeah what Hank said and I include the probability that the guy would be a long termer as opposed to the status quo 3-5 year HC.

That said, Cards couldn't pull him when he was struggling @ PU so it's highly unlikely they could pull him when he just got multi T5-T10 wins for the Boilers.

I believe UofL football will need to ride Satt out for at least one more year and then see what the situation looks like. He has a ton of young players so my guess is he either puts the team on the T25 map next year and then leaves on his own or it's another tough year and then he probably exits. So it feels like the program is probably 1-2 years from a change at HC in my guess opinion.

 

[TheRealVille]

But he wasn't struggling at Purdue when Petrino was fired. He had turned the program around from 2 win seasons. The main reason he didn't take the Louisville job because he didn't feel right leaving Purdue after bringing them back to life in just two seasons. They gave him his first power conference job and were willing to pay him like a top 5 coach to keep him.

A asswipe like Petrino would have had no problem doing that but not Brohm. As much as I was disappointed I respect him for that integrity. However, reality dictates a much bigger program than UofL or Purdue will come calling and he will surely move on.

Unless of course he eventually wants to come home but I'm not convinced that's something he's focused on. It just appears to me Louisville had a case of bad timing or they would have hired him. We had Petrino who brought in a Heisman winner and no one foresaw the disaster that was coming the season after Lamar left. It's a shame because I believe had Brohm took the job here, we fans would be on cloud 9.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

But he wasn't struggling at Purdue when Petrino was fired. He had turned the program around from 2 win seasons. The main reason he didn't take the Louisville job because he didn't feel right leaving Purdue after bringing them back to life in just two seasons. They gave him his first power conference job and were willing to pay him like a top 5 coach to keep him.

Thx Ville my memory was not right about that. For some reason I thought he was struggling when Louisville reached out. I do recall PU giving him a substantial raise to keep him.

Overall it did feel like timing wasn't right. I'm kind of starting to think it never will be right, at least not any time in the near future.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

But he wasn't struggling at Purdue when Petrino was fired. He had turned the program around from 2 win seasons. The main reason he didn't take the Louisville job because he didn't feel right leaving Purdue after bringing them back to life in just two seasons. They gave him his first power conference job and were willing to pay him like a top 5 coach to keep him.

A asswipe like Petrino would have had no problem doing that but not Brohm. As much as I was disappointed I respect him for that integrity. However, reality dictates a much bigger program than UofL or Purdue will come calling and he will surely move on.

Unless of course he eventually wants to come home but I'm not convinced that's something he's focused on. It just appears to me Louisville had a case of bad timing or they would have hired him. We had Petrino who brought in a Heisman winner and no one foresaw the disaster that was coming the season after Lamar left. It's a shame because I believe had Brohm took the job here, we fans would be on cloud 9.

And lets see

We're paying a Petrino buyout
We payed Jurich and Pitino

Then we'd have to buyout Satt and then pay for Brohm's buyout too, not to mention significantly increase Jeff's pay and benefits to where he'd be able to leave and bring in good assistants, which could put us in another situation where we have a coach on a favorable deal we won't be able to fire without putting up big bucks.

 

[TheRealVille]

Of course finances may make it impossible but these things somehow can work out. Let's say Satterfield leaves on his own. No buy out for him. Now paying Brohm may not be feasible either. I don't know.

All I know is UofL got the worse of these two coaches and for them to ever have a head coach who won't bolt when successful, Brohm is the only coach I can think of. The only reason Brohm is even talked about is because he's a former Cards player. Some fans think we should try to get Fickell from Cincinnati but he has bigger suiters than Louisville to choose from.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Of course finances may make it impossible but these things somehow can work out. Let's say Satterfield leaves on his own. No buy out for him. Now paying Brohm may not be feasible either. I don't know.

All I know is UofL got the worse of these two coaches and for them to ever have a head coach who won't bolt when successful, Brohm is the only coach I can think of. The only reason Brohm is even talked about is because he's a former Cards player. Some fans think we should try to get Fickell from Cincinnati but he has bigger suiters than Louisville to choose from.

Satt isn't going to get a better job at this moment. He had some positive steam last year. Now I think it's true he wants out, and honestly I think he knew this year was going to be tough. The SC interview was a fit and proof he wants out. But, he's not going to leave this job for some step down right now. No team is going to pay his buyout. He's going to collect every cent from us unless a SEC or bigger program comes calling.

We possibly had a chance with Fickell in 2018(was my choice FYI), would've been a hard get, but in 2021 0% chance he'd come here. He's currently in the playoff discussion. And they're going to the Big 12 at Cincy, which the Big 12 without OU and Texas is better than the ACC right now.

 

[Thecycle27]

The only way you’d get rid of him this year is if Jeff Brohm has agreement in place with UofL. Otherwise, you let Satt continue to solidify our foundation. I do t think he’s a long term coach here but it’ll be turned over to next guy in better shape than when he got here.

I agree with this 100%. Timing is everything. It didn’t work last time and it may not work out this time either. Brohm buyout is pretty low I believe around $1M in Dec. Does he get an extension this year? This may be the best time to get him.

While I like what Satterfield is doing he has lost a lot of the fanbase. If they go 1-2 the last 3 games and get smoked by UK Tyra may not have a choice to only if Brohm is ready to make the move.

On the flip side he goes 3-0 no way anything happens this year. They do the same thing next then Brohm is probably off the table if he signs an extension. Then you are in the market for a coach that may not be liked anymore than Satterfield.

The ideal situation is Satterfield starts winning. People will come back.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Some Louisville fans sound like some WVU fans, "I heard down at TARRRLAND that Nick Saban wants to retarr at Bammer so he can come home to West Virginia and coach them 'EERs"

Seriously

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

Yeah it just does not seem like the timing is right. Again.

Satt is gonna stick around next year and hopefully get the team to fringe T25 status with the young guys being one year older.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Note: The above anecdote is a true story that I actually heard while in the waiting room at Tireland, aka TARRRLAND. I made up none of it. This guy knew Nick Saban's cousins in Fairmont (saw them over Thanksgiving) and everything, we're gonna FARR that Dana sonofabeyitch and Nick's gonna come home and coach them EERs!!! The shit that people want to believe. People here sounded just like this in regards to Jeff Brohm a few years ago, "I saw the Brohm family down at Mike Linnigs and that Oscar was mowing through a fried fish sandwich, told me that Jeff will take a paycut to COME HOME and coach them Cards! Those little ones sure had fun playing on the swings!"

 

[2330859]

There is truth to these reports circulating around Louisville about Jeff‘s sincere desire to return home.

I like Satt, but whether anyone will admit it or not ……. Scott has one foot out of here and I see him leaving as soon as he sees an opportunity.

 

[TheRealVille]

Think about the Cardinal past. Think about the very things that no one could or would ever believe would happen.

Louisville joing the ACC?
Rick Pitino taking over for Denny Crum?
Louisville player winning the Heisman?
Louisville baseball becoming a powerhouse program?

There's more but you get the point. If Jeff Brohm really wants to come home and lead the Cards, it will happen regardless of the obstacles. The irony is Brohm becoming the coach one day most everyone anticipated until he turned us down.

We'll see.

 

[Morgantown Card]

I like Satt, but whether anyone will admit it or not ……. Scott has one foot out of here and I see him leaving as soon as he sees an opportunity.

My friend, they all will have a foot out the door when it comes to being the Louisville football coach. This is not a destination job, these guys are all mercenaries building a career and the sooner we all accept that the happier and more at peace we'll be about this stuff. If Satterfield takes Louisville to a NY6 Bowl or the CFP - and then leaves - I'm good with that because that means we get to watch them in a NY6 Bowl or a CFP game!

We need to stop being so precious about the coaches. Whether or not they "love it here!" or whatever is irrelevant. I'm sure a man of Nick Saban's wealth could find a better place to live than Tuscaloosa, AL. "Man I sure love these pig roasts in the parking lot of TARRRLAND, I ain't ever getting another job!"

Keep in mind, both Mack and Satterfield left HC jobs at their respective alma maters, to coach at Louisville. Mercenaries. Use these guys like the super-hot crazy chick you dated in college, enjoy it for what it is for how long it lasts and then on to the next when when they find someone else for whatever reason.

 

[TheRealVille]

This is why we need someone like Brohm, a former player as head coach. If UofL can't hang on to a star alumnus after bringing success it will never happen.

Most Cards fans felt the football program would never reach the status as the hoops program because of this. Moving to a power conference hasn't done it and having a Heisman winner so far hasn't either.

 

[nccardfan]

My friend, they all will have a foot out the door when it comes to being the Louisville football coach. This is not a destination job, these guys are all mercenaries building a career and the sooner we all accept that the happier and more at peace we'll be about this stuff. If Satterfield takes Louisville to a NY6 Bowl or the CFP - and then leaves - I'm good with that because that means we get to watch them in a NY6 Bowl or a CFP game!

We need to stop being so precious about the coaches. Whether or not they "love it here!" or whatever is irrelevant. I'm sure a man of Nick Saban's wealth could find a better place to live than Tuscaloosa, AL. "Man I sure love these pig roasts in the parking lot of TARRRLAND, I ain't ever getting another job!"

Keep in mind, both Mack and Satterfield left HC jobs at their respective alma maters, to coach at Louisville. Mercenaries. Use these guys like the super-hot crazy chick you dated in college, enjoy it for what it is for how long it lasts and then on to the next when when they find someone else for whatever reason.

Part of this is the nature of the sport itself. Kirk Ferentz at Iowa is the longest tenured football coach at 21 years. Saban is in the top 10 list. Obviously what you’re looking for is a coach like Crum, Coach K, Geno, Pat Summitt, etc who stay the majority of their careers at one school because they are ALLOWED to because of their successes.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

There is truth to these reports circulating around Louisville about Jeff‘s sincere desire to return home.

I like Satt, but whether anyone will admit it or not ……. Scott has one foot out of here and I see him leaving as soon as he sees an opportunity.

Jeff Brohm coming here will cost. Lets look at logic about him coming here. I'll copy and paste this on many threads. Where is the money coming from? Would it be a smart move?

We paid Petrino $14 million to leave.
We paid Jurich $7 million in a settlement.
We just lost A LOT of money in 2020-2021 with COVID causing no NCAA tournament, no fans, etc.

Satterfield makes $3.25 Million per year.
Satterfield's buyout is $3.5 Million until Dec 31st. 2022.

Brohm contract at Purdue is about $5 Million per year.
Brohm's buyout now would be around $3-$3.5 Million
Source "JC ONLINE:
"The buyout doesn’t change. If Brohm leaves Purdue after the 2019 season for another coaching position, he would owe the school $3.75 million ($3.3 million in liquidated damages, $450,000 in an expense reimbursement to terminate his contract at Western Kentucky. The expense reimbursement declines $150,000 each year through 2021)."

#1 So we'd have to drop $6-$7 million alone to fire Scott and then hire Jeff Brohm.

#2 Then, we'd have to probably get in a bidding war for Jeff Brohm, meaning we up the salary to $6 million? Can we even come close to affording that? Then factor in the money we'll need for a staff beyond that.

#3 Then we'd have to add incentives to make it worthwhile for him to want to stay, like say a huge buyout that's favorable for him and then a low buyout if he decides to leave. Would that be smart because remember the contract we gave Bobby?

#4 So we're going to pay Jeff Brohm, who is 25-28 at Purdue, a $6 million contract that could be another Bobby type deal where we'd have to give out all this money to get rid of him? His best season at Purdue is 7-6. YOu can say "Oh it's Purdue" but really what makes the potential of this job so much easier? Because we're in a similar area and both P5 schools that have really no shot at a title realistically.


Now I think Jeff is a good coach, but he didn't come in 2018. We cry about Scott talking to SC, but Jeff had the perfect chance to come home and really just said no. Money matters and as rich as we think we are, we aren't Bama, LSU, ND, Ohio State where we can just keep paying all these big buyouts and still be able to pay a coach $6 million. It's just not logical.

And no, Scott isn't going to take another job this offseason for less money and leave a $3.5 million buyout on the table. And no, Jeff Brohm is not going to leave Purdue and take less money for what would be a lateral move. So logic has to play in, we're not going to fire Satt to get Jeff Brohm.

Unless the wheels fall off, Scott is staying. This was a big rebuild job. This isn't a very talented team. I just wanted to see fight in 2021 and I've seen it. It's a young group that's improving and not declining. He only has 2 recruiting classes on this roster, you fire him and then it's another rebuild waiting to happen.

 

[CardX]

My friend, they all will have a foot out the door when it comes to being the Louisville football coach. This is not a destination job, these guys are all mercenaries building a career and the sooner we all accept that the happier and more at peace we'll be about this stuff. If Satterfield takes Louisville to a NY6 Bowl or the CFP - and then leaves - I'm good with that because that means we get to watch them in a NY6 Bowl or a CFP game!

We need to stop being so precious about the coaches. Whether or not they "love it here!" or whatever is irrelevant. I'm sure a man of Nick Saban's wealth could find a better place to live than Tuscaloosa, AL. "Man I sure love these pig roasts in the parking lot of TARRRLAND, I ain't ever getting another job!"

Keep in mind, both Mack and Satterfield left HC jobs at their respective alma maters, to coach at Louisville. Mercenaries. Use these guys like the super-hot crazy chick you dated in college, enjoy it for what it is for how long it lasts and then on to the next when when they find someone else for whatever reason.

I think Howard would have stayed had we not joined CUSA. BP 2.0 would have been here as long as Jurich would have been here. Looking back, JLS and Charlie both probably wished they would have stayed. It would take a home town guy/former player for someone to coach here long term. The only real thing Louisville doesn't offer is its status as a blue blood or a traditional football school. Those things matter, don't get me wrong, but all the other boxes are checked. Plus, there are many coaches with long tenures at non blue blood schools currently. We'll get the right guy eventually.

 

[Morgantown Card]

Jeff Brohm coming here will cost. Lets look at logic about him coming here. I'll copy and paste this on many threads. Where is the money coming from? Would it be a smart move?

We paid Petrino $14 million to leave.
We paid Jurich $7 million in a settlement.
We just lost A LOT of money in 2020-2021 with COVID causing no NCAA tournament, no fans, etc.

Satterfield makes $3.25 Million per year.
Satterfield's buyout is $3.5 Million until Dec 31st. 2022.

Brohm contract at Purdue is about $5 Million per year.
Brohm's buyout now would be around $3-$3.5 Million
Source "JC ONLINE:
"The buyout doesn’t change. If Brohm leaves Purdue after the 2019 season for another coaching position, he would owe the school $3.75 million ($3.3 million in liquidated damages, $450,000 in an expense reimbursement to terminate his contract at Western Kentucky. The expense reimbursement declines $150,000 each year through 2021)."

#1 So we'd have to drop $6-$7 million alone to fire Scott and then hire Jeff Brohm.

#2 Then, we'd have to probably get in a bidding war for Jeff Brohm, meaning we up the salary to $6 million? Can we even come close to affording that? Then factor in the money we'll need for a staff beyond that.

#3 Then we'd have to add incentives to make it worthwhile for him to want to stay, like say a huge buyout that's favorable for him and then a low buyout if he decides to leave. Would that be smart because remember the contract we gave Bobby?

#4 So we're going to pay Jeff Brohm, who is 25-28 at Purdue, a $6 million contract that could be another Bobby type deal where we'd have to give out all this money to get rid of him? His best season at Purdue is 7-6. YOu can say "Oh it's Purdue" but really what makes the potential of this job so much easier? Because we're in a similar area and both P5 schools that have really no shot at a title realistically.


Now I think Jeff is a good coach, but he didn't come in 2018. We cry about Scott talking to SC, but Jeff had the perfect chance to come home and really just said no. Money matters and as rich as we think we are, we aren't Bama, LSU, ND, Ohio State where we can just keep paying all these big buyouts and still be able to pay a coach $6 million. It's just not logical.

And no, Scott isn't going to take another job this offseason for less money and leave a $3.5 million buyout on the table. And no, Jeff Brohm is not going to leave Purdue and take less money for what would be a lateral move. So logic has to play in, we're not going to fire Satt to get Jeff Brohm.

Unless the wheels fall off, Scott is staying. This was a big rebuild job. This isn't a very talented team. I just wanted to see fight in 2021 and I've seen it. It's a young group that's improving and not declining. He only has 2 recruiting classes on this roster, you fire him and then it's another rebuild waiting to happen.

Perfectly reasoned and well said. Logic, not bullshit overheard from some dude at TARRLAND who said he talked to Oscar Brohm down at KingFish "Jeff's a comin' HOME!"

 

[TheRealVille]

Jeff Brohm coming here will cost. Lets look at logic about him coming here. I'll copy and paste this on many threads. Where is the money coming from? Would it be a smart move?

We paid Petrino $14 million to leave.
We paid Jurich $7 million in a settlement.
We just lost A LOT of money in 2020-2021 with COVID causing no NCAA tournament, no fans, etc.

Satterfield makes $3.25 Million per year.
Satterfield's buyout is $3.5 Million until Dec 31st. 2022.

Brohm contract at Purdue is about $5 Million per year.
Brohm's buyout now would be around $3-$3.5 Million
Source "JC ONLINE:
"The buyout doesn’t change. If Brohm leaves Purdue after the 2019 season for another coaching position, he would owe the school $3.75 million ($3.3 million in liquidated damages, $450,000 in an expense reimbursement to terminate his contract at Western Kentucky. The expense reimbursement declines $150,000 each year through 2021)."

#1 So we'd have to drop $6-$7 million alone to fire Scott and then hire Jeff Brohm.

#2 Then, we'd have to probably get in a bidding war for Jeff Brohm, meaning we up the salary to $6 million? Can we even come close to affording that? Then factor in the money we'll need for a staff beyond that.

#3 Then we'd have to add incentives to make it worthwhile for him to want to stay, like say a huge buyout that's favorable for him and then a low buyout if he decides to leave. Would that be smart because remember the contract we gave Bobby?

#4 So we're going to pay Jeff Brohm, who is 25-28 at Purdue, a $6 million contract that could be another Bobby type deal where we'd have to give out all this money to get rid of him? His best season at Purdue is 7-6. YOu can say "Oh it's Purdue" but really what makes the potential of this job so much easier? Because we're in a similar area and both P5 schools that have really no shot at a title realistically.


Now I think Jeff is a good coach, but he didn't come in 2018. We cry about Scott talking to SC, but Jeff had the perfect chance to come home and really just said no. Money matters and as rich as we think we are, we aren't Bama, LSU, ND, Ohio State where we can just keep paying all these big buyouts and still be able to pay a coach $6 million. It's just not logical.

And no, Scott isn't going to take another job this offseason for less money and leave a $3.5 million buyout on the table. And no, Jeff Brohm is not going to leave Purdue and take less money for what would be a lateral move. So logic has to play in, we're not going to fire Satt to get Jeff Brohm.

Unless the wheels fall off, Scott is staying. This was a big rebuild job. This isn't a very talented team. I just wanted to see fight in 2021 and I've seen it. It's a young group that's improving and not declining. He only has 2 recruiting classes on this roster, you fire him and then it's another rebuild waiting to happen.

All of this has been duely noted. The timing may not be right because of money but at the same time, there could be things going on that we're all not privy to.

Satterfield may have already told Louisville he wants to move on from Louisville Kentucky for non football related reasons. This would be something held close to the vest by UofL as they prepare for a replacement.

Maybe UofL has heard from Brohm that he's willing to take a paycut to come home and that if the logistics can be worked out for all parties, he's willing and ready.

Now all of this could be fantasy talk and everything that was talked about does make it impossible to get Brohm next season. But at the same time it's not that complex or difficult if both sides want it to happen. I agree it probably won't happen but I remember back in the year 2000 saying there was no way Rick Pitino would be hired as Louisville's coach. I lost a few bets on it actually.

Nothing is impossible when it comes to hiring and firing coaches.

 

[nccardfan]

Perfectly reasoned and well said. Logic, not bullshit overheard from some dude at TARRLAND who said he talked to Oscar Brohm down at KingFish "Jeff's a comin' HOME!"

Hey, it’s Mike Lining’s not Kingfish. Everyone knows that. 🤣

 

[LeFors4Ever]

All of this has been duely noted. The timing may not be right because of money but at the same time, there could be things going on that we're all not privy to.

Satterfield may have already told Louisville he wants to move on from Louisville Kentucky for non football related reasons. This would be something held close to the vest by UofL as they prepare for a replacement.

Maybe UofL has heard from Brohm that he's willing to take a paycut to come home and that if the logistics can be worked out for all parties, he's willing and ready.

Now all of this could be fantasy talk and everything that was talked about does make it impossible to get Brohm next season. But at the same time it's not that complex or difficult if both sides want it to happen. I agree it probably won't happen but I remember back in the year 2000 saying there was no way Rick Pitino would be hired as Louisville's coach. I lost a few bets on it actually.

Nothing is impossible when it comes to hiring and firing coaches.

So 2 football coaches are going to sacrifice millions of dollars to take a lateral mover (Brohm's case) and a step down in Satterfield's case? I get that anything is possible, like Nick Saban might like this city of Louisville and want less stress? I mean it's possible, but not likely.

Satt isn't going to say "Awww shucks guys, I don't really like it all here in the big ole city. I don't want that $3.5 million and yall can keep it. Also Im gonnna just head out somewhere and make like a 1/3rd of a salary."

Satt hasn't had a long career where he's made big money. He may want to leave, but he's not leaving $3.5 million on the table if he's going to take such a paycut. Brohm isn't going to risk losing a $5 million job to take a paycut and then take on ANOTHER rebuild. We'd be a lateral move and it's just not likely.

Seriously, the probability of 2 football coaches wanting to both leave millions on the table and make a step down or lateral move, which would both conveniently benefit us, just not gonna happen like that. In this world, money talks.

Jeff Brohm has NFL dreams I bet and I bet he'll get some interest. He'll also get some blueblood love with 1-2 more big seasons. It would be such a risky move for his career. I think the fantasy of him saying "Im happy and want to be here forever" is what we want, but remember he turned it down in 2018. Combine that with money and logistics, we need to just not get unrealistic.

 

[TheRealVille]

I didn't say they were going to do anything. I just surmised what was possible although unlikely.

You keep saying lateral move when that is just your opinion. It's not self evident Louisville is such a move from Purdue. Unless you personally know both coaches, you don't know what they may do or even consider.

You keep reacting like I'm predicting this or saying it's likely and I have not. I just learned awhile back that nothing is always as it seems to be and possibilities do exist when it comes to sports.

So you don't need to keep trying to convince me you are the forseer of post season maneuvers because you're so wise on these matters. I got it! Thank you.

 

[Mobes]

I just don't get the people fawning over Brohm. He basically pissed on us when he had the chance to come here.

At PeeU he has gone
7-6
6-7
4-8
2-4
6-3 this year so far.

Our fans would've had him fired after those 3 straight losing seasons.

Why do you all want him ? I'm interested to hear why.

You don't know what he's had to do to be this competitive. Darrell Hazell's program before Brohm came went 9-39, the worst in Purdue football history.

 

[Thecycle27]

I think Satterfield is the right guy for Louisville. He really does know how to build a program. He and his staff are learning which was to be expected. There are too many things pointing in the right direction inside the program. Roster is being built the right way. Players are developing. Recruiting has good momentum. You see it very quickly once the players stop believing in the coaching or think the coaches aren’t all in. The speed of programs falling is sped up in today’s world. How his team played after the Clemson loss was impressive. That tells me the players trust the coaches. Duke is a different challenge easy trap game they need to dominate this game.

The one thing he has rebuild the trust with the fanbase. He needs to stay out of the coaching searches this year.

 

[2330859]

Back to your point Morgantown Card; it is true that most all D1 college HCs “have one foot in and one foot out”. My taking issue with CSS and his pursuit of the USC Jr opening was different than what we witnessed when Corso, Schnellenberger, JLS, Petrino or even Strong’s left UL.

I need to be careful here, as I have no firsthand knowledge of the events, as my information comes from one of the former UL Coaches who believes that Satterfield knew it was a risky decision to reach out to South Carolina, rather than vice-versa; he and his family were not comfortable living here and for that I do not blame him personally, but I believed that it placed our football program in a precarious position with recruiting.

Now the flip side; some time has passed by since that event, and it is possible that his adjustment in a urban community has improved; and I will add this ……despite not having success recruiting 4 & 5 Star kids; Scott and his staff have brought in 2 and 3 Star kids who have performed much higher than their rating would suggest. I believe Satterfield has demonstrated that he “can coach em up“.

 

[LeFors4Ever]

Back to your point Morgantown Card; it is true that most all D1 college HCs “have one foot in and one foot out”. My taking issue with CSS and his pursuit of the USC Jr opening was different than what we witnessed when Corso, Schnellenberger, JLS, Petrino or even Strong’s left UL.

I need to be careful here, as I have no firsthand knowledge of the events, as my information comes from one of the former UL Coaches who believes that Satterfield knew it was a risky decision to reach out to South Carolina, rather than vice-versa; he and his family were not comfortable living here and for that I do not blame him personally, but I believed that it placed our football program in a precarious position with recruiting.

Now the flip side; some time has passed by since that event, and it is possible that his adjustment in a urban community has improved; and I will add this ……despite not having success recruiting 4 & 5 Star kids; Scott and his staff have brought in 2 and 3 Star kids who have performed much higher than their rating would suggest. I believe Satterfield has demonstrated that he “can coach em up“.

If you reach out for a job, you better get the job.

I can understand the SC interest for CSS. A job with much better resources and recruiting that's in an area he's more familiar with, but you don't interview for that job if you think you'll have to go back to Louisville. We can forgive you if it was a job like Auburn or something like that or even Tennessee, but SC just isn't a traditional power that we can accept.

 

[Thecycle27]

The whole flirtation and the uproar by fans really makes no sense. Is the program better than when he arrived? Yes. Are they competitive a majority of games? Yes. They have even played a difficult schedule SOS is 14th. Again why are people worked up?

People act like he walked into a good situation. It was bad enough a hometown hero wouldn’t touch it.

Really the program is in a good position. If he stays he is putting together a good program. If he goes the next guy has something to work with.

 

[TheRealVille]

I again will say if Satterfield wasn't calling the plays, most fans would be calling for the head of the offensive coordinator.

 

[CardX]

The whole flirtation and the uproar by fans really makes no sense. Is the program better than when he arrived? Yes. Are they competitive a majority of games? Yes. They have even played a difficult schedule SOS is 14th. Again why are people worked up?

People act like he walked into a good situation. It was bad enough a hometown hero wouldn’t touch it.

Really the program is in a good position. If he stays he is putting together a good program. If he goes the next guy has something to work with.

Flirting after year two and a losing season, yeah, that was bull shit. He knew it was bull shit, otherwise he wouldn’t have written that bull shit apology letter. Short memories around these parts. And Brohm didn’t take the job because of the condition of the program. That’s more bull shit. Go look at that 2019 roster. There are coaches who would kill to lead that kind of talent. Brohm passed because of the emotion and pressure to coach at his alma mater. Revisionist history is also around these parts.

 

[glassmanJ]

on a tangent concerning coaches as them leaving, in reality, this should be expected of every employee, no matter the job. let me give you two simple examples, my wife works in the hospital as a tech during an interview, the hospital president speficically told her that even though he makes a ton, he never stops interviewing and is always looking to move up and his mindset is that if each employee is not doing that, and striving to be better, they are not moving the company as a whole forward. second example, i have a good friend in town, a general manager who jsut moved back to get his dream job, and he loves it but is already interviewing for the next step up as that's his mindset, always climb the ladder and he jsut got his dream job in town. so w/80% (i use the 80/20 rule in most things or the bell curve, google if you're curious) off all humans, and thus coaches, want to improve and climb that ladder and it makes no sense not to listen. saban left lsu. jimbo left fsu. carroll left usc. RP left camelot (uk), the top programs in the country, the ultimate jobs, and their coaches still left for something better, or the thought of something better.. everyone should be trying to interview constantly. don;t blame any coach ever for lsitening to anotehr job. jsut hope they relaize their current fans lose trust and they eventually have to leave based on that the moment their record goes down the tubes. i think we all simply hope to find the bobby bowden who wins and realzies that winning can breed winning. but in general coaches are built to move on. strong made the worst decision of all, but it lead to BP recruiting Lamar, and honestly his highlights are worth all the losses, his number being retired was all worth it, so grand scheme glad they all left, i ffffin love Lamar Jackson!!!! so thanks to BP for giving up CS who gave up Krags who brought back BP who helped Lamar be Lamarvelous, so grateful for all their failures for wanting to climb the ladder.

 

[2330859]

while I appreciated your point glassman; the coaching profession is unlike most any other job, particularly
when it comes to stability. HCs and Assistants are always subject to termination, as well as outside offers. Conversely, in business, most high level jobs include employment agreements that prohibit taking a job with a competitor. Those you identified trying to improve themselves is typical in today’s culture, but ask yourself how many people in the community were affected by their decision to leave their particular job, as compared to how many UL Administrators, UL assistant coaches, football players, recruits and UL season ticket holders and fans alike are adversely affected whenever the HC (like Satterfield still under an existing contract) decides to pursue another opportunity without consideration to the affect it can have on so many others.

As Lefors noted: it would be different if South Carolina had reached out to Scott with an offer to become their HC. It still results in pain for the aforementioned, but it is a lot more understandable given the circumstances. In this instance, that was not the case …….. Satterfield pursued the job without the courtesy of even notifying his boss in advance. He handled it in a manner that brought disfavor upon himself, and raises questions as to whether he wants to be here.