Football is being ruined imo. Trying to watch the NFL and you can’t even hardly tackle anybody anymore without a flag being thrown. I never thought the woke movement that is in politics would make it to football. They need to make the padded helmets mandatory and go back to alpha rules of the old days.
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I totally agree with you but I am going to focus all my ire on College Football. I am sick and tired of the same old song and dance when it comes how they rank these teams. How is a one loss team above the Cardinals? Did Notre Dame not get beat by a team from the MAC? Every year they purposely rank certain teams so high in the preseason polls that they literally have to lose two or three games before it knocks them out of the top 20. Every year we watch teams like Notre Dame and Alabama start the season in the top five and when they drop one or two games and then go on a hot streak they magically leap frog someone like Alabama did FSU last year. I am sick and tired of the disrespect that we the Cardinals receive year end and year out. Spare me the talk of us falling off, I remember when we were hanging video game numbers on people with Petrino and driving ESPN’s numbers on off days during the week. Yet again Colorado and its carney Head Coach gets the prime time slot once again against a nobody opponent. When we play Notre Dame it will probably be on NBC and Peacock but it will be an afternoon game. The ACC needs to pull its head out of its arse and wake up. Louisville and Miami are sitting in the drivers seat and they should be getting all the media and prime time TV slots on its network. “Primetime and the Buffaloes have shown us and the world who they are, they are not worthy of being in the prime time slot every Saturday night.
I’m fine with winning and flying below the radar. UofL tends not to do so well when hyped up. I’ve long ago stopped caring about what talking heads say about us, or our broadcast slots. The goal is win the ACC. Step one is Saturday. Let’s play football.
Both are true but only one is controllable. Control what you can control and don’t worry about things that can’t be controlled. The brands will always get the benefit. It is a TV production. Brands matter in that world. Notre Dame or valued brands will always fall in the rankings much slower the non valued brands. That is out of Louisville’s hand.
Louisville only can control how they play week to week. They can’t lay an egg on any game. If they do they will fall like a rock. They have to win. If they win their brand improves and so will their rankings. The goal is to win the ACC or finish 2nd then get to playoff. All that is controllable for the admin and coaching staff.
Louisville only can control how they play week to week. They can’t lay an egg on any game. If they do they will fall like a rock. They have to win. If they win their brand improves and so will their rankings. The goal is to win the ACC or finish 2nd then get to playoff. All that is controllable for the admin and coaching staff.
I like your way of thinking. Hope you continue to post and more often,
Well, it would seem to me the goal here at UofL is the Cards being hyped and still playing well. What fan wants to continue flying under the radar because in the past that's the only way the Cards won?
The goal is to win the conference for sure but it's also reaching elite status like the hoops team did all those years ago. It would be preferable to this fan to be the hunted consistently each and every season, and with Jeff Brohm that is within reach.
If it takes the program flying under the radar so it can win a big game every once in awhile, that's not what Brohm was hired for. If the football media's perception doesn't concern you as a Louisville fan, I don't see why you would bother to care.
I want to see Louisville do what Clemson did after hiring Dabo. I'm not satisfied being a contender once in awhile who flys under the radar most seasons.
It is still too early to tell how good teams are but there were teams so highly regarded and there are several teams flying under the radar. Clemson, UNCST and definitely FSU look weaker than expected. Boston College and Pitt look gritty and are going to fight until the end of the game. We have a lot of possible stumbling blocks on our schedule. Take care of business in the ACC and move into the playoffs don’t get trapped.
Definitely overkill on the calls, but don't blame them for some of the rule changes! Dudes 50 years old committing suicide due to hits to head warrant some changes. Now the BS flops, QB hits, etc, totally agree!
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Thats why they get paid the big bucks...hazardous duty pay. Nobody is putting a gun totheir head...and making them play. its a risky occupation....one they get paid very very well for...generational wealth compared to our real heroes in dangerous occcupations. Can't stand the heat...get out of the kitchen and do something else and put that paid for degree to work like the common folk.
Now fireman, policeman, and military men (Our real heroes) all get paid a fraction of what the pro FB players get and their occupations are far more dangerous. It is what it is.
Those warranted changes are taking the gladiator aspect out of the fan expereience and they will only tolerate sensible changes and not pussification of the sport....or BL the fans (customers) will stop watching. Then what? Flag FB? meh God help us. Go woke go broke.
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I guess I'm missing the connection of increasing safety rules with "woke". Making sports safer has been going on long before "woke" was a thing.
A C-USA team moved the ball way too well against us for a half of football for me to get too upset about a #19 ranking.
We'll start proving who we are as a team the next couple of weekends...
We'll start proving who we are as a team the next couple of weekends...
When normal FB hits get flagged by bad judgement and/or antacipatory calls for unnecessary roughness or targeting, (especially at key times of the game) one has to wonder if that is for the safety of the player or to manipulate the game.
This whole targeting BS is becoming way too subjective (Out of control with human error) and in some obvious instances it is pussification of the game. Hence, why I observe it as another bad example of "Wokeness" and it is affecting the outcomes of the game in way too many instances.
Downright annoying to FB purist. Sorry your awareness is focused on safety. This is and always has been a violent sport. Trying to change that factor with sissifying rule changes will ruin the sport as we know it.
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I can’t understand when a player with the ball is running full speed and the defensive player launches himself in the air to make the tackle and the ball carrier steps one foot out of bounds and gets hit. How is the defensive player supposed to stop in midair?
If we were offered $10-$20 MILLION to play two-four years of professional FB, not one person on this board would worry about their “safety”.
On second thought, a couple would.
In fact, as a rule, nobody worries about anybody’s safety until AFTER something happens.
If people were truly concerned about the “safety” of the masses automobiles would have a mandatory 50mph max.
When these guys sign the contract are they worried about their safety?
Even the unsigned FAs on do it in the hopes of eventually getting a big deal.
On second thought, a couple would.
In fact, as a rule, nobody worries about anybody’s safety until AFTER something happens.
If people were truly concerned about the “safety” of the masses automobiles would have a mandatory 50mph max.
When these guys sign the contract are they worried about their safety?
Even the unsigned FAs on do it in the hopes of eventually getting a big deal.
Worthy of a slot means ratings. You can talk about the polls and such, but TV networks pay the bills. They are a business. They aren't just putting teams in certain slots for a favor, they want money.
Worthy means ratings. I hate Colorado, but they are a draw. People watch. We played Notre Dame and guess what? ABC put us on in primetime. When we were a draw with Lamar, we got on ABC a lot more and hosted Gameday twice. The polls are flawed yes, but the networks are doing what makes them money. TV time slots are merit based.
They played NDSU and got almost 5 million viewers on a Thursday. Their game against Nebraska was the #2 game in week 2 with over 5 million viewers. Last week even against Colorado State, they got over 3 million viewers. They're a draw. If people watch, advertisers pay more money, the network makes more money. So yes, they are worthy of a primetime slot.
Are many in your circle attending on Saturday? Most of my college friend group that attends games are going and we're going to tailgate, but Im interested in what others are seeing. That's the best research on interest is your friend group. I think a lot of my friends that are die hard UofL are pumped, but the casuals that we've really lost since 2017 haven't fully re-invested but are close.
My regular group will be at the GT game except for a couple on vacation. I'm sure their tickets will get used. Should be a great afternoon for football and tailgating.
If anyone needs a tailgate to crash, let me know. Old folks, not much excitement.
No faking here. I wouldn't survive the first series of downs. Bring on those millions...
I agree with you but I will argue that a team that made the ACC championship game the year before and brought in the top transfer portal class should have at least been ranked in the top 25 preseason polls.
That is what I was trying to convey in my long winded post. I am tired of “flying under the radar.” We were not supposed to dog walk Notre Dame the way we did last year but we did. The media barley gave us a second though but week after week they continued to fall all over Colorado for beating a washed TCU team and a has been Nebraska team. We as Louisville Football fans didn’t pray and clamor for Coach Brohm to come home for us to just fly under the radar and except whatever crumbs the ACC and sports media decides to throw our way.
I have to disagree with you on being worthy of that time slot. These last couple of weeks have had a very weak slate of games. Last week the only marquee game was Alabama vs Wisconsin with the BC and Missouri game being the only other match up between top 25 teams. I also think that more than 60 percent of their viewership is from people who want to watch them lose. Colorado is not that big of a fan base nor a TV market outside of their state. It is true about the advertising because their carney Coach Prime Time is in every other commercial.
The simple answer is if he is "launching himself in the air" it needs to be at his lower body not head or chest. Don't launch just wrap up around the hips.
You can’t stop that either going full speed. Did you play football? It’s not like you can pause in the middle of a tackle. What’s going on in football is pussy and these gifted athletes make millions even at the college level. Like I said, if you want to put them in those UFO helmets fine, then everything goes.
It's true most of these penalties are unfortunate and not purposely malicious. Defenders preparing to make the tackle at the same time the runner lowers or moves his head happens all the time.
In college this can be helped by not tackling a runner who appears to be losing his feet. Once he's down the play is over, but in the NFL, if not touched he can get up and go.
Targeting is BS. It's just a term they chose to name a penalty. All defenders on a football field target the ball runner. The rule is just an attempt to avoid hits to the head and even when it's not intentional, they throw the flag. It's a trade off in hopes of avoiding hits to the head.
In the NFL there's no targeting. It's mostly a QB protection plan as NFL QB's are usually the highest paid player. I've seen many ridiculous roughing the QB flags in the NFL. It's comical at this point.
In college this can be helped by not tackling a runner who appears to be losing his feet. Once he's down the play is over, but in the NFL, if not touched he can get up and go.
Targeting is BS. It's just a term they chose to name a penalty. All defenders on a football field target the ball runner. The rule is just an attempt to avoid hits to the head and even when it's not intentional, they throw the flag. It's a trade off in hopes of avoiding hits to the head.
In the NFL there's no targeting. It's mostly a QB protection plan as NFL QB's are usually the highest paid player. I've seen many ridiculous roughing the QB flags in the NFL. It's comical at this point.
If targeting is about safety why did they do away with the halo rule if they are so concerned about safety. The punt receiver is very vulnerable.
Well since you asked, yes I have played football. We used to do this drill called the "gauntlet" . You form two lines of would be tacklers, a runner is handed the ball with his back facing the two lines. Coach picks one guy from the two lines as the tackler. Coach blows whistle, runner turns around and runs between the two lines, not knowing who the would be tackler will be. I got run over a few times but when I got my arms around his hips, I usually was able to bring the runner down. The one advantage the runner always had was that he was moving and the tackler was not. You either brought the runner down or you got ran over like a train wreck. Guess what? The runner always lowered his helmet.... The reason we didn't launch in those scenarios is that somebody would be going to the hospital.
Launch? That drill sounds like something simulating the rb running through a hole and you tackle at an angle from a standing still position.
First it’s impossible to spear or lead with the crown of your helmet on a ball carrier running STRAIGHT at you unless you want to break your neck. I played safety in high school when all hits were legal and you can only spear at an angle but it doesn’t take much of one. One issue is you have to be smart enough to know how you can hit someone. The injury that’s turned all the white collars into pussy’s is Tua’s stupid mistake of trying to lead with his head. Football is a thinking game and when you make silly decisions you pay.
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The increased size and strength of the players over the last 40 years explains why there has been an increase in the head and neck injuries.
Certainly but the equipment is so much better and safer now. Again you have to know when you can take your shots without hurting yourself. As for getting slammed on the harder surfaces by a defender, that can’t be controlled.
maybe the players got tired of not being able to walk when they are older, stupid post. the game is safer, less concussions and what if it was your child out there getting there bell rung constantly then when they are older they can't walk, talk, or function in society, but yes let's go back to alpha dog, where might is right, where stupidity rules and common sense no longer exists. just plain moronic post and opinion. obviously your a trump follower and common sense ,makes no sense to you.
It doesn’t matter what anyone says about us. It’s what we DO on the field that matters. It may make us feel good to hear nice things said about our team. But historically UofL does not do well when hyped.
My problem is that the number of injuries we are seeing seems to be increasing, especially early in the season. I suspect it’s lack of live tackling in practice - the technique is not the best and bodies just aren’t used to the contact. The current rules around practice are intended to reduce injuries, but may be having the opposite effect. We need to do a better job of 1) Teaching tackling, 2) Teaching players how to protect themselves from contact 3) training in such a way as to reduce the sprains, pulls,and other muscle/tendon issues the seem to have multiplied with the heavy weight lifting programs.
Maybe but a whole lot of “hitting” went away when they allowed use of hands by the OL.
Yeah there are some hits and injuries, but there is a TON of nothing but pushing and shoving. Every pull play someone was getting a hat put on them. Now they just push em aside.
Again, IF safety were the concern, there would be weight limits (for more than one reason), just as there is/was in little league, and require two-way play. In itself forcing weight loss.
It is not, and never was about “safety”. It’s about “appearing” to care.
It’s about money. More now than ever.
Yeah there are some hits and injuries, but there is a TON of nothing but pushing and shoving. Every pull play someone was getting a hat put on them. Now they just push em aside.
Again, IF safety were the concern, there would be weight limits (for more than one reason), just as there is/was in little league, and require two-way play. In itself forcing weight loss.
It is not, and never was about “safety”. It’s about “appearing” to care.
It’s about money. More now than ever.
What does talking about safety equipment in football have anything to do with Trump? I agree with making the game safer by changing some of the rules. I don’t think taking it to an extreme was their intentions the problem is how the refs are calling it on the field. Intentionally spearing someone should be penalized but calling a penalty on helmet to helmet contact a penalty when both players are at fault for making contact. If their intentions are to make the game safer why did they do away with the halo rule?
