The Master has a good day...
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I'm sorry I could have at least given you 15 minutes.
I'm just happy that RP did the right thing. He has finally released the anger. I have had a hate-love-hate-love with RP for 30 years. Peace glass.
i think you'll see attendance grow as the wins come and excitement grows. louisville is a 50% front runner town. half the crowd is always there, the other half comes when they know there's a good chance for a win or at least a great game.
I agree. None of it makes sense. Like you said, it's been 2 years and this lawsuit which was just dropped was filed not long after he got fired. Why now? Why walk away from potentially 40 million dollars now due to a breach of contract? Could it be as simple as him wanting to coach again? Maybe but it sure feels like it goes deeper than that. Like he knows he breached his own contract due to a lack of ethics and morals. College basketball is a slimy business and like you love to point out, Rick Pitino is the master.
Remember he is 67 years old. He wants to coach while he’s still relevant and probably more importantly, still has the energy. At the rate it was going, it could have taken 2 more years to settle making him almost 70...
Not knowing something doesn't give you an excuse to take your brain offline. In the absence of direct knowledge, most of use reasoning.
Why was it inappropriate to just say "life is short and I've decided to move on"? What's illogical about that if that's all that happened, and how does that recognition lose him face?
If anything, making up a story about his attorneys advising him otherwise would make him appear unduly emotional when he decided to sue, spendthrift, and a little crazy to have waited this long for no other "reason".
(There's that word again...)
At least that's plausible since the guy has been openly looking for a job unsuccessfully, and everyone recognizes that the cloud of this lawsuit wasn't helping.
Of course, that logic doesn't fit an agenda...
There's a lotta speculation in there. One thing we know more or less factually and recently is that he can't get a job he wants....
I think he was unduly emotional and irrational when he initially decided to sue. Rational people knew his lawsuit was a loser and that he wanted to “win” because he thought it’d help him preserve his legacy.
I don't know of any rational people who thought Pitino's suit had no merit. I know a number of people in this space who think that...
Interesting. I don’t know any rational people that decide to abandon a 40M suit that has merit, in order to take zero. People tend to fight those type of lawsuits out to the bitter end...
Or so I’ve heard.
It had no merit and Pitino knew it. Why would he walk away from $40M f he thought he had a case? He won't make that much over the next 10 years when he is 77. Fact is Zippy the University is doing just fine without your BFF's.
Pitino did make history though. First to go 40(M) and ($)0.
narcissism, maybe? i agree, doesn't make sense but sometimes people who know their are guilty fight it until the end and won't admit truth even in the face of facts. i do think possibly that TJ admitting he made the call on probation that maybe that triggered some kind of realization with rp that they know he knew. does seem odd in every way, zipp, but pitino could be viewed that way and thus just normal behavior. my guess he writes a book and gives us a completely different yet unheard of spin.
Pitino's interested in more than money. He wants something intangible like a legacy and a positive finish to his career. Makes no sense to me, but I'm not making decisions for him.
If U of L is doing fine, why is it several months late reporting its last set of summary financials?...
Maybe RP looked at the existing situation and saw that he could realistically reach a settlement of $5-10 million, and remain a pariah in Louisville and college basketball in general. Or, he could drop his suit and regain some level of viability to pursue a coaching job and to rehab his reputation. It is certain that the money isn't an issue to him. He can earn that in a 4 or 5 year contract. It appears to me to be a move by RP to salvage a long and storied career with the opportunity to finish on the bench where he can do that.
LOL, Ghost, that post of yours might be THE best post of the decade.
We'll have to wait a few more months but as far as I'm concerned it's easily the best of this entire decade! Very clever and well played!
Interesting theory. However it’s predicated on the notion that by Pitino walking away with nothing - he reframes the situation, resulting in him not remaining a pariah - either in Louisville or CBB. The problem with that, is his 25 year history of self aggrandizing spin and self promotion to the point of shamelessness, that will have everyone questioning his motives - just like they are here. He can’t escape that - there’s simply not enough time left.
There’s no denying that he is an incredible basketball coach but at this point, that’s not near enough to make up for the past 15 years. Ego helped propel him to the top, and it was his ultimate undoing.
I don't think his legacy changes much with another successful coaching stop. He will always be viewed as a top shelf HC in college basketball who had off court issues. The talking points could shift a bit when his name comes up, and push off court issues a little more distant, assuming he hires clean assistants next stop, but the overall picture doesn't change.
He just wants to coach. It's who he is, and he wants his career to end on his terms. I ain't hating on that. I assume he gets that chance soon.
He just wants to coach. It's who he is, and he wants his career to end on his terms. I ain't hating on that. I assume he gets that chance soon.
Dunno about financials but RP's 'legacy' is trash now no matter what he does. There's always going to be that asterix over 2012/2013.
Maybe Auburn would take him. After all they took Pearl even during his show cause. They don't seem to care and the NCAA doesn't either so that's a spot for the 'master'.
His legacy is tarnished and walking away from $40M is not going to repair it at 67 years old. He had no case and probably didn't want all of his past to come back up again. Maybe UL wanted to get the Pitino stuff behind them first to see what financial obligation there could be.
Well - if you “don’t know” then maybe he does give a damn. He sure talks about it a bunch for someone who doesn’t care.
As for programs and fanbases? Let’s review Pitino’s short list.
1. Kentucky - overwhelmingly hated.
2. Boston - mostly hated.
3. Louisville - majority either hate him or, are glad he’s gone.
I guess there might be some Knick fans that are still alive from when he coached them that probably still like him.
So there’s that.
You didn’t read my post very carefully. I said that a majority of UofL fans either hate Pitino or are glad he is gone. Could definitely be more of the latter but if you don’t think that’s the way the vast majority think - particularly given the efforts of Mack and his staff - you are willfully out of touch.
LOL..Pitino's ego is too big he cares about everywhere he's been. He failed at Celtics and embarrassed himself with all of his indiscretions at UL. He thinks stopping his case VS. UL to say he resigned will repair the damage.
Well - if you “don’t know” then maybe he does give a damn. He sure talks about it a bunch for someone who doesn’t care.
As for programs and fanbases? Let’s review Pitino’s short list.
1. Kentucky - overwhelmingly hated.
2. Boston - mostly hated.
3. Louisville - majority either hate him or, are glad he’s gone.
I guess there might be some Knick fans that are still alive from when he coached them that probably still like him.
So there’s that.
The hate from KY fans didn't come until he became UofL HC. Big difference there.
And the hate from UofL fans didn’t come until - at best, his lack of control over his staff and at worst - some knowledge of violations that cost UofL title #3.
Helluva coach - never liked him though. Too much uk stink to ever wash off and the nonstop spin was beyond irritating.
