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Just can't help himself a total blue hole tool.Not trying to be a comedian, you're all the joke I need ...LMAO
JC for 3 doing his every hour, all day, everyday "hobby" at his keyboard on the University of Louisville Rivals Site.......ROTFLMAO
LOL! Not steering anything. You just don't like other stats that discredit one of your flimsy arguments. WTH does "some solid years" mean anyway??
"Bids" prove nothing except that some conferences are found to be overrated after the fact. Except for LPT, your conference went 2-4 in the NCAA last year.
And TWO of the teams in your conference--a 14-team league--account for all but one of those NCAA titles. That's not a basketball conference, that's two-team basketball conference.
Damn. You gotta go back a decade to find the last Final Four for one of those other 12 teams? Pretty weak. And you're in a "power" conference in football--as the token doormat--but not in basketball. That's how you can go 38-1 and still flame out.
What's that LPT mantra?... "Wait until next year."
"Elite program", my a$$...
Well, bids do pit teams against one another across conferences at the right time of the year. But RESULTS are all that matter; the number of bids proves nothing. Kinda like playing UCLA and Texas in basketball last year.
And not to discredit any of the legit P5 basketball conferences like the ACC--but the "power" designation in P5 as we all know was defined on the football side of things. If the Big East had great and widely watched football teams, that conference would still be intact and inside of the Power Whatever.
Speaking of the non-P5 Big East, they had one more bid than the SEC to the 2015 tourney with FOUR fewer teams.
Hiding behind the "P5" label in basketball is like the SEC in that sport, a monumental joke. And not something you'd expect from a fan of an elite basketball program.
"Elite program", my a$$...
Consistent with the header, I've given you facts. You just don't like them. Don't indicate you're all that elite.
"Elite program", my a$$...
You've given pretty much nothing but your anti-UK opinion rather than fact and try to back it up with cherry-picked stats. Anybody can do that to make their case. I know you're just going to weasel out of every factual argument presented to you. Your sig is basically your mission statement, which is basically to discredit any of UK's accomplishments. Here's a basic illustration of what you do rather than acknowledge facts:
- In reference to fan celebrations-- I say all was not all 'peace and quiet' in the Ville. Zipp: "Find evidence otherwise." OneEarWonder then posts "Riot police had to be dispersed around campus to quell a riotous crowd." (States he has a relative working in that capacity to back it up. ) Zipp: Silence.
- Zipp: "Tubby was run off." I point out that Tubby hired an agent in DECEMBER the year o his final season at UK. Also link an article that was account of Crum's departure from Louisville to provide a better look at what being "run off" looks like. Zipp: Silence (again)
- Me: Name me 1 more coach other than Coach K that has had a better past 6 years than Cal. Zipp: "Sounds like it's time to start a great run banner like all of the elite programs have hanging" (To which he is called out for clearly not wanting to answer the question)
- Zipp: "Pitino has had the better past 6 years because....no NIT's" Me: ...uh, he's taken uofl to the NIT TWICE. Zipp: Silence.
- Zipp: "All of those UK wins and conference titles came in the SEC." Me: UK currently has 923 Non-conference wins. (Conference titles...of course all in the SEC. UK hasn't ever needed to jump around to what is now 6 conferences for uofl.)
- Zipp: "Your conference schedule is a dumpster fire." Me: You mean like BC, Wake, FSU, Ga Tech, Va Tech, Pitt and Clemson? .....not exactly a murderer's row. Zipp: "Oh, and some of the better ACC teams are played ON THE ROAD, remember what that is?" Me: 2015-2016 Louisville schedule....Duke, ND and VA on the road. (Still not sure how 'good' VA will be next year).... so possibly 3 tough road games. Zipp: Silence.
- Zipp: "Mulder was passed over by Pitino. Pitino got the guys he wanted, you guys got Mulder." Me: Yeah, I'm sure RP didn't want the JUCO POY." Zipp: silence.
- Zipp: "NCAA Tournament bids mean nothing." Me: Uh... yes they do....they mean you had to have a good season to get one." Zipp: "Well, the other teams not named UK went 2-4 in the tournament." (So now to shift away from the fact that 5 SEC teams got bids to the tournament, now it only matters how they did after getting there.)
- Zipp: "Two of the teams in your conference--a 14 team league account for all but one of those NCAA Titles." Me: "...and yet the title count between the 2 conferences is 13-11....with the ACC holding a 2 title lead." (Now that Maryland has left the ACC.... 3 ACC teams account for all but one of those 13 titles....)
- Me: "The SEC is a member of the Power 5 conferences on an annual basis." Zipp: "That Power 5 designation only comes from the football side of things." (Same designation is usin basketball, but apparently that doesn't matter here.)
- Zipp: "Pitino Lite." Me: Cal is 7-1 against RP since coming to UK. Zipp: "LPT" ....Me and other UK posters: Your team is 15-33 in basketball and 13-14 in football against an alleged "play toy".
- Me and other UK posters: "If Cal 'can't coach', how can he be 7-1 against RP since becoming UK's coach?" Zipp: Super Bowl
- Me: "It's funny how the football game between UK and uofl "matters"...and somehow the basketball game isn't all that 'important'." Zipp: Super Bowl
Not trying to be a comedian, you're all the joke I need ...LMAO
JC for 3 doing his every hour, all day, everyday "hobby" at his keyboard on the University of Louisville Rivals Site.......ROTFLMAO
I'm sorry, I didn't know you were logging every one of my posts. (I should have guessed that a courier job allowed for that.) I'll catch up now, scout's honor...
The Ear guy's just another slapd!ck. You're gonna need a more credible source than that, esp. if you agree with him.
Unlike Pitino Lite, Tubby never missed an NCAA tournament. He left because he knew a hooded LPT lynch mob was forming. Crum had losing records two of his last three seasons. Slight difference.
I'm not going back to link it, but I responded "Pitino" for one. One title and no NITs in the last six years. The banner was a reference to all of the other non-elite program garbage (e.g., "a good run") you wanna talk about.
Not since Pitino Lite rolled into town. Shall we use the same timeframes to compare? You know, for consistency?
LPT clearly had what it wanted from the beginning--a basketball conference it could dominate. U of L "jumped around" to improve its conference affiliation. Another slight difference.
Silence here can likely be interpreted as being dumbfounded at LPT stupidity... The 38-1 "good run" was against ONE team that barely made the Sagarin Top Ten (UNC at #10). U of L played SEVEN games against that same Top Ten. Hell, what more needs to be said?
I'm sure his mother thinks he's a fine boy too. But Pitino clearly got the two guys he wanted. Wasn't room for a non-elite guy named "Mulder".
Another example of LPT lowering the bar... What you do in the NCAA tourney is evidently less important.
Quoting out of context, naturally... The debate was about the strength of your schedule. And as I've said, you can't play against yourself. Deduct 8 from that 11. If you wanna play against a conference with 13 titles already, apply for ACC membership. Oops, there goes any shot at 40-0!!
Sorry, that's just LPT ignorance--or denial--of the basis for the Power 5 designation. I'd kinda expect that denial from a basketball school. Those are the five best football conferences, not necessarily basketball.
When Matt Hayes of The Sporting News comes off that moniker, so will I. Keep me updated.
Don't whine to us. Pitino Lite came up with that term. I just happen to agree with him. With your junk basketball schedule, who's to argue?
Nonsensical courier-babble... You'll have to explain yourself a little better.
Let me know when you think I'm ignoring you again. No reason for an LPT courier and a fan of an elite basketball program to have an inferiority complex.
"Elite program", my a$$...
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What a blue hole thing to say...you respond to him to say nanananaanaa ...I didn't see your reply ...which you obviously did hence the playground chant response. Grow up already.
"you respond to him to say nanananaanaa ...I didn't see your reply ...which you obviously did hence the playground chant response."
Actually, I don't see his replies....that's how that 'ignore' button works. It's possible to see that he replied to the topic, just not the content. Just letting him know he's wasting his time if he's going to keep trying to fire off his little zingers in my direction.
Actually, I don't see his replies....that's how that 'ignore' button works. It's possible to see that he replied to the topic, just not the content. Just letting him know he's wasting his time if he's going to keep trying to fire off his little zingers in my direction.
A. You're on a U of L message board.
B. You can label facts you don't like whatever you want.
C. What are you "coming back" with?
"Elite program", my a$$...
Opinion: "Unlike Pitino Lite, Tubby never missed an NCAA tournament. He left because he knew a hooded LPT lynch mob was forming"
Fact: Tubby hired an agent in December of his final season at UK. He knew things weren't going to work out and planned his departure.
Opinion: "I'm sure his mother thinks he's a fine boy too. But Pitino clearly got the two guys he wanted. Wasn't room for a non-elite guy named "Mulder".
Fact: Mulder was the JUCO Player of the year....and you continue to contend that RP was interested.
Opinion: "Sorry, that's just LPT ignorance--or denial--of the basis for the Power 5 designation. I'd kinda expect that denial from a basketball school. Those are the five best football conferences, not necessarily basketball."
Fact: Power 5 conferences is a relative term in both football AND basketball...pay more attention around Selection Sunday and you'll hear it.
Opinion: "LPT"
Fact: uofl has losing records to UK in both basketball (15-33) AND Football (13-14)
Opinion: "Pitino Lite"
Fact: ...he's 7-1 against RP since coming to UK.
Opinion: "Bids mean nothing."
Fact: A team needs to have a good season to get one. ALL teams in college hoops have getting to the tournament as one of their goals at the start of the season.
....see the difference yet between opinion and fact?
Fact: Tubby hired an agent in December of his final season at UK. He knew things weren't going to work out and planned his departure.
Opinion: "I'm sure his mother thinks he's a fine boy too. But Pitino clearly got the two guys he wanted. Wasn't room for a non-elite guy named "Mulder".
Fact: Mulder was the JUCO Player of the year....and you continue to contend that RP was interested.
Opinion: "Sorry, that's just LPT ignorance--or denial--of the basis for the Power 5 designation. I'd kinda expect that denial from a basketball school. Those are the five best football conferences, not necessarily basketball."
Fact: Power 5 conferences is a relative term in both football AND basketball...pay more attention around Selection Sunday and you'll hear it.
Opinion: "LPT"
Fact: uofl has losing records to UK in both basketball (15-33) AND Football (13-14)
Opinion: "Pitino Lite"
Fact: ...he's 7-1 against RP since coming to UK.
Opinion: "Bids mean nothing."
Fact: A team needs to have a good season to get one. ALL teams in college hoops have getting to the tournament as one of their goals at the start of the season.
....see the difference yet between opinion and fact?
You're taking credit for Tubby proactively dealing with his lynching. Did LPT counteroffer what Minny offered him? And is Minny a better job?
So, if he was an Eagle Scout too, does that mean that Pitino wanted him? Pitino wants guys good enough who fit his system, and assuming there's an available scholarship. One of those boxes wasn't checked.
The Big East was better than the SEC in basketball last year. (They got more NCAA invites, right?) So, tell me what Power 5 means in basketball again?
Here, tweet him...
And why do you think that has anything to do with him being "Pitino Lite"?
So why do the records of the conferences get tracked in the NCAA? (As an example...) And once it's over, no one but the courier talks about "bids"? ANSWER: Because he's lowering the bar.
Any why didn't you try to rebut the rest of the points/issues?
Labeling facts opinions and opinions facts means nothing except to the guy assigning the labels.
"Elite program", my a$$...
As everyone can see, I'm doing my best to address each of your issues head on. Show me otherwise. (And not just your opinions or facts you don't like...)
"Elite program", my a$$.
When I hear "blue hole" i think of the head to head record (all NCAA records), UL has against UK.
"When I hear "blue hole" i think of the head to head record (all NCAA records), UL has against UK."
...pretty big hole, no doubt. Except in football....they're close....13-14 overall record v. UK. With the way recruiting is going.... look for UK to widen the lead.
...pretty big hole, no doubt. Except in football....they're close....13-14 overall record v. UK. With the way recruiting is going.... look for UK to widen the lead.
That's because you're a blue hole, by definition you have very little capacity to think.
Surely to God you don't mean these LPT recruits?...
With LPT, recruiting is all about HYPE.
I heard that Tuesday was the "best day in LPT football recruiting history". Three kids committed in the 2017 class. I look on Rivals, and they have four commits in that class with an average rating of 3.00 stars. That's a LOWER rating than the LPT class this year.
And here's the list of other offers for those four kids:
Iowa (3 offers)
Toledo (3)
West Virginia
East Carolina
Central Michigan
Cincinnati
Illinois
Indiana
U of L
Maryland
Washington State
I've also heard there's concern about these guys decommitting.
LPT Football: Iowa and Toledo are hot after our guys...
"Elite program", my a$$...
You mean the class now currently ranked 12th?
Edit: ....the 2017 class is actually currently ranked 9th....after getting commits from 3 4-star players earlier this week (RB- Michael Warren, DE James Hudson and WR Craig Yeast II (who picked UK over uofl).
The 2016 Class has 21 commitments, including 3 more 4-star players and some offensive linemen that are projected to be one of the best units in the country. (Landon Young, Drake Jackson, Tate Leavitt)
Edit: ....the 2017 class is actually currently ranked 9th....after getting commits from 3 4-star players earlier this week (RB- Michael Warren, DE James Hudson and WR Craig Yeast II (who picked UK over uofl).
The 2016 Class has 21 commitments, including 3 more 4-star players and some offensive linemen that are projected to be one of the best units in the country. (Landon Young, Drake Jackson, Tate Leavitt)
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The rankings are based on the NUMBER of commitments, not just the quality.
LPT's average star rating in 2016 is equal to Louisville's and just slightly higher than Joker's classes were rated.
Very few teams have any recruits for 2017, so it's easy to be ranked high at this point. In the 2015 class just completed, LPT's 2017 average star rating (3.00) is the same as Georgia Tech's was. And Tech finished 39th in the Rivals ranking in 2015.
All you have to do to verify the 2017 LPT commitments is that offer list. Louisville is the best offer on there.
"Elite program", my a$$...
Holy hell! This dude seriously thinks uk is widening some sort of gap against UofL in football? Maybe you're referring to the gap between your ears or something. So you continue with this whole leading the series BS by including games from the leather helmet era. That's a peach! LOL!
Some blue fans are just straight dumb but then there are the select few who even believe the nonsense they makeup as if God sent them a message thru their pancakes. Jesus is in Tijuana!
I love it when uk fans get into the football recruiting smack. It's like someone just rewound the tape and hit play on the same old worn out jibber jabber we have heard for years.
Some blue fans are just straight dumb but then there are the select few who even believe the nonsense they makeup as if God sent them a message thru their pancakes. Jesus is in Tijuana!
I love it when uk fans get into the football recruiting smack. It's like someone just rewound the tape and hit play on the same old worn out jibber jabber we have heard for years.
"Holy hell! This dude seriously thinks uk is widening some sort of gap against UofL in football?"
I said they could widen their 14-13 lead with the success they're seeing in recruiting. If you're going to try to analyze what I said, try making sure you're at least accurate about what I said.
I said they could widen their 14-13 lead with the success they're seeing in recruiting. If you're going to try to analyze what I said, try making sure you're at least accurate about what I said.
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