Rick went on the defensive covered all issue's basicaly says he too old to care what is said and he gonna say what he wants. Love it
Rick's press conference
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Pitino says his team made about 45 mistakes against Kentucky. Number is usually in the 20s.
Typical of the Uk game.
Typical of the Uk game.
I believe most Louisville fans would agree something happened but I don't think any fan believes Powell is telling the complete truth. All Pitinio confirmed is something happened but not exactly what was written in the book.
Joe Paterno probably not the best example of compliance to use though. Other than that I thought he nailed it in the press conference
He also directly told Bozoich how pissed he was at him for writing that he believed Rick knew about whatever did happened in Minardi Hall.
Didn't happen today but I'm still holding out hope that at some point this year Pitino steps from behind his podium and starts pounding the stuffing out of Bozoich till he screams like a little girl.
Didn't happen today but I'm still holding out hope that at some point this year Pitino steps from behind his podium and starts pounding the stuffing out of Bozoich till he screams like a little girl.
He said that from the jump that something happened but not too the nmagnitude that the media has made this out to be.
We all know that had this been Duke, it would have been covered totally different by ESPN and the sports media. I think that's what Rick was getting at in that press conference without calling out the names. He kept saying how no one was being skeptical of Powell and how they were all giving her a forum to burn the university. Now I know bad news sells even in sports, but the way ESPN went at it was like they made the decision that UofL was guilty and they wanted to be the engine to destroy the program. Why wouldn't Pitino take this personally?
Rick Bozich is going to regret his behavior because he will never be trusted by any coach that he's not part of the media establishment that only cares about sensationalizing stories, especially those that he has a bias against. Does anyone doubt how Coach K would have reacted to this kind of treatment by the media? He would have been a lot more quicker at blasting ESPN and local reporters who were calling him a liar. But since he wasn't blackmailed 10 years ago over a personal, non job related mistake, he wouldn't have to worry about being called a serial scandalous coach.
As Louisville fans, we've always felt that the Cards were reluctantly accepted as one of the power programs by the media. The examples are too vast to cite now but the way this scandal has been covered compared to UNC's and Syracuse's is proof enough. I mean, has anybody really heard anything about how Roy Williams was obviously lying? I guess he's just another John Calipari who's never held accountable to what happens under his watch.
ESPN and the sports media doesn't want that to be the case this time with Rick Pitino and the University of Louisville.
Rick Bozich is going to regret his behavior because he will never be trusted by any coach that he's not part of the media establishment that only cares about sensationalizing stories, especially those that he has a bias against. Does anyone doubt how Coach K would have reacted to this kind of treatment by the media? He would have been a lot more quicker at blasting ESPN and local reporters who were calling him a liar. But since he wasn't blackmailed 10 years ago over a personal, non job related mistake, he wouldn't have to worry about being called a serial scandalous coach.
As Louisville fans, we've always felt that the Cards were reluctantly accepted as one of the power programs by the media. The examples are too vast to cite now but the way this scandal has been covered compared to UNC's and Syracuse's is proof enough. I mean, has anybody really heard anything about how Roy Williams was obviously lying? I guess he's just another John Calipari who's never held accountable to what happens under his watch.
ESPN and the sports media doesn't want that to be the case this time with Rick Pitino and the University of Louisville.
Interesting how he talked about how nobody he talked to had seen anything and the only explanation he could think of was that they knew if he found out, all hell would break loose. Oddly enough, that's not a bad point. My feelings on Pitino in general notwithstanding, I find it pretty unlikely he had anything to do with the whole thing.
Ratman Bozich now back peddling on the very statement he made that pissed off Pitino and a lot of Louisville fans.
Note the part where instead of his earlier statement that he believed Rick knew what was going on at Minardi Hall (which is ridiculous) to now saying that if he didn't know, he should have. Big difference.
Geez what a worm.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30867879/bozich-the-last-word-on-scandal-belongs-to-ncaa-louisville
Note the part where instead of his earlier statement that he believed Rick knew what was going on at Minardi Hall (which is ridiculous) to now saying that if he didn't know, he should have. Big difference.
Geez what a worm.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30867879/bozich-the-last-word-on-scandal-belongs-to-ncaa-louisville
Here's his take that had Pitino so heated
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30307084/bozich-this-is-one-mess-pitino-cant-fix
http://www.wdrb.com/story/30307084/bozich-this-is-one-mess-pitino-cant-fix
RP talked for over 15 mins and you summed it in under 30 words (in one sentence).
Below is the first part of the transcript of the actual questions and answers asked and answered in today's interview. Second part to follow. It's long, but it prevents any message boards misquotes/misinterpretations.
QUESTION: DID YOU FLIP OFF THE UK FANS?
PITINO: I did not. It wasn’t fans, per se, I was in the tunnel, and it’s really not important. And I’ll say this to you guys, you guys think it’s important, and I respect if you say I should show up for a press conference and you write it, that’s not what I’m pissed off at you about. There’s a lot of other things. That’s fine. That’s your opinion. You have a right to your opinion. I said it 36 hours before the game to Paul (Rogers) as well as Kenny (Klein), I wasn’t doing the press conference because it’s a very emotional game for me. When we go into a press conference in a neighborhood like that, I don’t want to hear about the scandal, OK? I don’t want to hear about that. That has bothered me every single night.
What bothers me about you (turning to Rick Bozich) is you say, I know everybody’s body fat, you must know about this (events in the dorm). That pisses me off, beyond your wildest dreams. Because that took place in Billy Minardi Hall, and we didn’t get one recruit. Somebody criminally came onto our campus. I’m pissed off at ESPN for even giving a forum to that person. If there are crimes — now I didn’t read the book, you guys read the book, so I only know what people tell me — but if there are crimes being committed, why is the NCAA or ESPN giving a forum to that person. If there are crimes, now I don’t know if there are crimes being committed.
The NCAA is upset at me because if I say, I can’t find one person, not one, that knew anything about it, the NCAA says you’re intimidating the witnesses. That wasn’t my intent to say that. So that’s why I didn’t go to media day. They’re telling me I’m intimidating. Well, soon as this happened, I went ballistic on everybody. Wait a second. You didn’t know one, single thing? The security person. You never saw a thing in four years and you worked for four years around the clock? No. Well the answer’s obvious isn’t it, Rick, isn’t the answer obvious? The reason that nobody saw anything, they knew that all hell would break loose if I found out that one, single thing was going on. That would be the obvious thing to me. So I don’t want to put myself out on a press conference like that, not for you, not for you, you’ve already asked your questions. But for other people who are going ask that question that you just had to ask — you wouldn’t ask it, but you’re working for people.
So I’m not going to say no comment. I’m not going to say it. I’m too old. I don’t care, OK? So I’m not going to say it. There’s only one good thing about being 63, is you don’t care what people think anymore. It’ the only thing? Am I right, Tim (Sullivan), do you care anymore? (Sullivan answers, ‘I’m not 63.’) I thought you were in your seventies. But that’s really the only good thing. So it bothers me because I’ve got a lot of failings in my life. We all know what I’ve been through. But one failing is, I’m totally complaint to the rules of the NCAA. I don’t believe in breaking any of those things. At all. And if anything, what was going on, if things did go on the way they say it, we weren’t going to get one player. I still can’t figure out, when it’s all said and done, why? Why was this being done? I don’t understand. It’s the only question that I would love to get answered. I don’t understand why. None of it makes sense to me. So I believe, and I have to thank Eric publicly because he’s the only guy that said, I’m going to show you that this, I know one thing, that guy’s the cheapest guy I’ve ever been around in my life, I know those numbers, and Eric did it, said follow the money trail, and showed it wasn’t that money. He proved it. He proved the inaccuracies in the book.
When we went up there, and I’ll leave it with this, and 2016 is hopefully going to be a better year, when Kenny Klein and John Carns went up there (to Indianapolis) to this book company to find out what’s going on, what can we investigate, what can we do? They made a statement that was interesting. I don’t know if it was a racist statement, I don’t know. Correct me if I’m wrong on this. The statement was made, ‘You mean to tell me this person kept a four-year log of everything that was going on? Wrote a journal about this?’ (Answer) No, no, we wrote it. She can’t complete two sentences the right way to write a book. That was said. Is that the way it was said? (Turning to Klein, who said, somewhat, yes. That’s about what was said.) So you mean to tell me a book was written, a four-year record was kept? There was no four-year record. You’ve got to be kidding me. So nobody goes after, ESPN doesn’t go after, are you telling the truth? Did you keep a four year journal? Did you write it? Or was it written just to get this book out because the excerpts were going to be given to The Courier-Journal or The Courier-Journal was going to get hold of it? There’s a lot of things I’m bothered by, every, single night that I go to bed.
I’m really bothered by the fact that you (Bozich) think I knew something because I knew everybody’s body fat. Because of the amount of time I’ve known you, thinking that even in your wildest dreams think I would do something like that in Billy Minardi Hall. Now you might think because of my personal failings 10 years ago, oh yeah that’s . . . Well, I’m bothered by that, but you have a right to your opinion, and I have a right to my opinion. (Bozich: ‘That’s fair.’) I speak to you just professionally, even though, and I was just told this by the way the other day when I was in Miami, for the first time. So I’m bothered by this a lot, when I go to bed at night, I bothered by a lot of all of this, because of my beliefs in how a program should be run. I’m not too sure that a lot of these things are the truth. And the only one who has gotten to the bottom of this is Eric Crawford where, it’s not the truth. Here they’re saying they kept a journal for four years, but can’t complete two sentences. Something’s not right here. I think you’ve got to follow the money trail. And then 11 people are suing her saying it’s not the truth. Is it 11? Whatever the number is out there. So I don’t know what’s going on with all this, but I know that everybody gave a forum to this person who may have committed criminal acts. But nobody went after her. Was this true? Was your daughter 18, was it 16, how much money, where’d the money come from? I don’t know any of that. It’s bothered me every, single night. So if I don’t want to do a press conference, it’s because it’s a very emotional time. It’s not because I lost a game. I’ve done press conferences for 40 some-odd years. Give me a break. We lost a game. It’s not going to be because of that. I’m not going to say no comment anymore, because I don’t care at 63. I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And I want to clean it up. If there are somethings that have to be cleaned up — I know one thing, why I didn’t know about it: I guarantee if a chair gets broken at Minardi Hall and I find out about it, there’s going to be a problem. So you can bet if something like that was going on I’d be the last to find out about it, because all hell would pay. Right away. The moment it happened. All hell would pay.
But, and just to answer some of the points, there are security people that are good people. One guy I had more complaints about, that he was too hard on our players, too hard, all the time, and the more I heard that he was too hard, the more I liked him. That’s good. That’s the type of guy I want running the dormitory. So did he sneak them through the back door? Did they hide in the room? I have no idea. But I guarantee you if anybody knew about it, and it got back to me, all hell. And I really feel the same way about my assistant coaches, the same way about them. I think they’re an extension of me. I think if they would have known anything, all held would have broken loose. So in 2016, this will be the last time I ever mention it. But I am getting it off my chest now, because I want to say it one time. And I really don’t care about what anybody thinks, why I don’t show up at a press conference, I couldn’t care less. There’s a reason for it. It’s not because we lost a basketball game. It was a terrific — when we lost to Duke (at Kentucky), I always say it was one of the greatest games ever played. So if I wasn’t afraid to meet the press in the most difficult loss of all time. So come on, give me a break with that stuff. If I show up for Duke, I think I can show up for that. And by the way, the Final Four was at stake in that game.
QUESTION: DID YOU FLIP OFF THE UK FANS?
PITINO: I did not. It wasn’t fans, per se, I was in the tunnel, and it’s really not important. And I’ll say this to you guys, you guys think it’s important, and I respect if you say I should show up for a press conference and you write it, that’s not what I’m pissed off at you about. There’s a lot of other things. That’s fine. That’s your opinion. You have a right to your opinion. I said it 36 hours before the game to Paul (Rogers) as well as Kenny (Klein), I wasn’t doing the press conference because it’s a very emotional game for me. When we go into a press conference in a neighborhood like that, I don’t want to hear about the scandal, OK? I don’t want to hear about that. That has bothered me every single night.
What bothers me about you (turning to Rick Bozich) is you say, I know everybody’s body fat, you must know about this (events in the dorm). That pisses me off, beyond your wildest dreams. Because that took place in Billy Minardi Hall, and we didn’t get one recruit. Somebody criminally came onto our campus. I’m pissed off at ESPN for even giving a forum to that person. If there are crimes — now I didn’t read the book, you guys read the book, so I only know what people tell me — but if there are crimes being committed, why is the NCAA or ESPN giving a forum to that person. If there are crimes, now I don’t know if there are crimes being committed.
The NCAA is upset at me because if I say, I can’t find one person, not one, that knew anything about it, the NCAA says you’re intimidating the witnesses. That wasn’t my intent to say that. So that’s why I didn’t go to media day. They’re telling me I’m intimidating. Well, soon as this happened, I went ballistic on everybody. Wait a second. You didn’t know one, single thing? The security person. You never saw a thing in four years and you worked for four years around the clock? No. Well the answer’s obvious isn’t it, Rick, isn’t the answer obvious? The reason that nobody saw anything, they knew that all hell would break loose if I found out that one, single thing was going on. That would be the obvious thing to me. So I don’t want to put myself out on a press conference like that, not for you, not for you, you’ve already asked your questions. But for other people who are going ask that question that you just had to ask — you wouldn’t ask it, but you’re working for people.
So I’m not going to say no comment. I’m not going to say it. I’m too old. I don’t care, OK? So I’m not going to say it. There’s only one good thing about being 63, is you don’t care what people think anymore. It’ the only thing? Am I right, Tim (Sullivan), do you care anymore? (Sullivan answers, ‘I’m not 63.’) I thought you were in your seventies. But that’s really the only good thing. So it bothers me because I’ve got a lot of failings in my life. We all know what I’ve been through. But one failing is, I’m totally complaint to the rules of the NCAA. I don’t believe in breaking any of those things. At all. And if anything, what was going on, if things did go on the way they say it, we weren’t going to get one player. I still can’t figure out, when it’s all said and done, why? Why was this being done? I don’t understand. It’s the only question that I would love to get answered. I don’t understand why. None of it makes sense to me. So I believe, and I have to thank Eric publicly because he’s the only guy that said, I’m going to show you that this, I know one thing, that guy’s the cheapest guy I’ve ever been around in my life, I know those numbers, and Eric did it, said follow the money trail, and showed it wasn’t that money. He proved it. He proved the inaccuracies in the book.
When we went up there, and I’ll leave it with this, and 2016 is hopefully going to be a better year, when Kenny Klein and John Carns went up there (to Indianapolis) to this book company to find out what’s going on, what can we investigate, what can we do? They made a statement that was interesting. I don’t know if it was a racist statement, I don’t know. Correct me if I’m wrong on this. The statement was made, ‘You mean to tell me this person kept a four-year log of everything that was going on? Wrote a journal about this?’ (Answer) No, no, we wrote it. She can’t complete two sentences the right way to write a book. That was said. Is that the way it was said? (Turning to Klein, who said, somewhat, yes. That’s about what was said.) So you mean to tell me a book was written, a four-year record was kept? There was no four-year record. You’ve got to be kidding me. So nobody goes after, ESPN doesn’t go after, are you telling the truth? Did you keep a four year journal? Did you write it? Or was it written just to get this book out because the excerpts were going to be given to The Courier-Journal or The Courier-Journal was going to get hold of it? There’s a lot of things I’m bothered by, every, single night that I go to bed.
I’m really bothered by the fact that you (Bozich) think I knew something because I knew everybody’s body fat. Because of the amount of time I’ve known you, thinking that even in your wildest dreams think I would do something like that in Billy Minardi Hall. Now you might think because of my personal failings 10 years ago, oh yeah that’s . . . Well, I’m bothered by that, but you have a right to your opinion, and I have a right to my opinion. (Bozich: ‘That’s fair.’) I speak to you just professionally, even though, and I was just told this by the way the other day when I was in Miami, for the first time. So I’m bothered by this a lot, when I go to bed at night, I bothered by a lot of all of this, because of my beliefs in how a program should be run. I’m not too sure that a lot of these things are the truth. And the only one who has gotten to the bottom of this is Eric Crawford where, it’s not the truth. Here they’re saying they kept a journal for four years, but can’t complete two sentences. Something’s not right here. I think you’ve got to follow the money trail. And then 11 people are suing her saying it’s not the truth. Is it 11? Whatever the number is out there. So I don’t know what’s going on with all this, but I know that everybody gave a forum to this person who may have committed criminal acts. But nobody went after her. Was this true? Was your daughter 18, was it 16, how much money, where’d the money come from? I don’t know any of that. It’s bothered me every, single night. So if I don’t want to do a press conference, it’s because it’s a very emotional time. It’s not because I lost a game. I’ve done press conferences for 40 some-odd years. Give me a break. We lost a game. It’s not going to be because of that. I’m not going to say no comment anymore, because I don’t care at 63. I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And I want to clean it up. If there are somethings that have to be cleaned up — I know one thing, why I didn’t know about it: I guarantee if a chair gets broken at Minardi Hall and I find out about it, there’s going to be a problem. So you can bet if something like that was going on I’d be the last to find out about it, because all hell would pay. Right away. The moment it happened. All hell would pay.
But, and just to answer some of the points, there are security people that are good people. One guy I had more complaints about, that he was too hard on our players, too hard, all the time, and the more I heard that he was too hard, the more I liked him. That’s good. That’s the type of guy I want running the dormitory. So did he sneak them through the back door? Did they hide in the room? I have no idea. But I guarantee you if anybody knew about it, and it got back to me, all hell. And I really feel the same way about my assistant coaches, the same way about them. I think they’re an extension of me. I think if they would have known anything, all held would have broken loose. So in 2016, this will be the last time I ever mention it. But I am getting it off my chest now, because I want to say it one time. And I really don’t care about what anybody thinks, why I don’t show up at a press conference, I couldn’t care less. There’s a reason for it. It’s not because we lost a basketball game. It was a terrific — when we lost to Duke (at Kentucky), I always say it was one of the greatest games ever played. So if I wasn’t afraid to meet the press in the most difficult loss of all time. So come on, give me a break with that stuff. If I show up for Duke, I think I can show up for that. And by the way, the Final Four was at stake in that game.
And here is part 2 of the interview transcript.
Q: HAVE YOU BEEN GIVEN AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE INVESTIGATION STANDS?
PITINO: No, I have not been interviewed myself yet. You know what's going to happen. It's ... I think they've got to contact every recruit that's come in here first. Then they go forward. Look they still haven't resolved North Carolina and how many years were they with Syracuse, how many years did it last? Two, three four years. North Carolina, it's been going on how long? ... I think the earliest this is going to go is July. I think that's the earliest you'll see anything resolved.
My feeling is, the only thing I want to do as far as the university -- if there's a lie, if the book publishing company is lying ... there's always these conspiracy theories it's Indiana. I don't believe any of that. They have to graduate from somewhere. But the one thing I can tell you is if there are lies in this book as Eric has pointed out, then I want to point it out. And I don't know why everybody gave this person a forum. I just don't understand it. Why they gave them a forum. Because if someone's lying or not telling the truth and did not keep a journal, I don't know. I'm a doubting Thomas with a lot of things. . . .
Eric's point is let's follow the money. Is that what you said, Eric? Let's follow the money? Let's understand this: Back in the old days when a coach was making $17,000, $19,000, he may have turned his eyes a little bit to certain things that were going on. When someone's making the incomes that we're making today as well as the assistant coaches, you are not risking one single thing. Not one, single thing you're not risking. With that amount of income that's going on.
Now some people may still be on the fence and take risks. But you're not going to find people like that, taking those risks anymore. Just follow the money where people make today. You think they're going to risk bringing people in to strip? Are you crazy? Doesn't make any sense to me. None of it does. So that's my peace. I've said it once and for all.
I think this university has as much integrity — I said it on of my blogs. The man I've met ... the one man in my life ... I'll say two and some people question John Wooden with Sam Gilbert. But the one person I would never question who I have ever encountered in my life as a young basketball coach is Joe Paterno
He would be the one guy that I would hold above reproach at everything. What did they do? They took a statue away. They probably killed him.
I was offered the head coaching job by him in the 70s I think it was. And I went to his house. And I said, 'This is probably going to be, this man is ... I'm from Queens New York, Manhattan. This guy is going to be living. He's Joe Paterno. I went in that house. I was amazed. It was a little ranch. He got up and greeted me. This is house after all those years. The most humble man and the man with the most integrity in our game. And look at the way it ended for him. I don't think I've ever me a man with more integrity than that man.
But you know sometimes he didn't know about it. And it was scurrilous what that assistant coach was doing. And I believe in Joe Paterno and I believe that the way that he went out breaks your heart even thinking about it in that situation.
I want our university if we feel we are being wronged to step up and say, 'No, we're being wronged in there.' Now it's tough to do sometimes because the NCAA says, no, just like they said with me, you can't be saying those things because you have no proof. You may be intimidating them. That wasn't my intention to intimidate anybody. I wasn't going to go. I got fed up with them when they said that. I said, 'Look, I’m just not going to go (to ACC Media Day). The university said that's the best thing. Not anymore. It's not going to happen any more that way.
Q: WHAT CHANGED?
PITINO: Because when I hear all these things are going on and nobody is sticking up for us, except those 11 people that moved forward and said, ‘No, that’s not true.’ And then I hear the comment that Kenny and John Carns got, and I, how can they keep a four-year journal? What’s going on here? You know what I always say, the truth lies somewhere in the middle sometimes. If there’s 20 times, there’s been 10. If you say there’s $10,000, there’s $3,000 or $4,000 that was passed. Or maybe there was none passed. So I’m bothered by it. Like I said, since the way we run the program here, I believe in it wholeheartedly, I believe in Tom Jurich the way he tells every coach, I’m behind you 100 percent but don’t break a single rule. I know what was said to me. I know what was said to Rex (Ecarma) over at tennis. I know what was said to our football coach and our track coach. And I believe in the way we do things, and I believe we have been wronged. We have been wronged. Now, did one person do some scurrilous things? I believe so. From what I know now, I believe so. The only thing I don’t know, I don’t know why he did it. I just, for the life of me, can’t figure out — he knew better, he was taught better, by his parents and by me.
So that’s the last I’ll mention it. I’m sure you’re thankful of that. But I do want to wish all of you a Happy New Year. I’m proud of the team we have right now. I’ve had more fun coaching this basketball team every single day than I’ve had since I’ve been here. And I think it will carry over into next year. And I think it will, if we get Wake Forest and get on a good home winning streak, I think some good things will happen to this basketball team come March.
Q: HAVE YOU BEEN GIVEN AN UPDATE ON WHERE THE INVESTIGATION STANDS?
PITINO: No, I have not been interviewed myself yet. You know what's going to happen. It's ... I think they've got to contact every recruit that's come in here first. Then they go forward. Look they still haven't resolved North Carolina and how many years were they with Syracuse, how many years did it last? Two, three four years. North Carolina, it's been going on how long? ... I think the earliest this is going to go is July. I think that's the earliest you'll see anything resolved.
My feeling is, the only thing I want to do as far as the university -- if there's a lie, if the book publishing company is lying ... there's always these conspiracy theories it's Indiana. I don't believe any of that. They have to graduate from somewhere. But the one thing I can tell you is if there are lies in this book as Eric has pointed out, then I want to point it out. And I don't know why everybody gave this person a forum. I just don't understand it. Why they gave them a forum. Because if someone's lying or not telling the truth and did not keep a journal, I don't know. I'm a doubting Thomas with a lot of things. . . .
Eric's point is let's follow the money. Is that what you said, Eric? Let's follow the money? Let's understand this: Back in the old days when a coach was making $17,000, $19,000, he may have turned his eyes a little bit to certain things that were going on. When someone's making the incomes that we're making today as well as the assistant coaches, you are not risking one single thing. Not one, single thing you're not risking. With that amount of income that's going on.
Now some people may still be on the fence and take risks. But you're not going to find people like that, taking those risks anymore. Just follow the money where people make today. You think they're going to risk bringing people in to strip? Are you crazy? Doesn't make any sense to me. None of it does. So that's my peace. I've said it once and for all.
I think this university has as much integrity — I said it on of my blogs. The man I've met ... the one man in my life ... I'll say two and some people question John Wooden with Sam Gilbert. But the one person I would never question who I have ever encountered in my life as a young basketball coach is Joe Paterno
He would be the one guy that I would hold above reproach at everything. What did they do? They took a statue away. They probably killed him.
I was offered the head coaching job by him in the 70s I think it was. And I went to his house. And I said, 'This is probably going to be, this man is ... I'm from Queens New York, Manhattan. This guy is going to be living. He's Joe Paterno. I went in that house. I was amazed. It was a little ranch. He got up and greeted me. This is house after all those years. The most humble man and the man with the most integrity in our game. And look at the way it ended for him. I don't think I've ever me a man with more integrity than that man.
But you know sometimes he didn't know about it. And it was scurrilous what that assistant coach was doing. And I believe in Joe Paterno and I believe that the way that he went out breaks your heart even thinking about it in that situation.
I want our university if we feel we are being wronged to step up and say, 'No, we're being wronged in there.' Now it's tough to do sometimes because the NCAA says, no, just like they said with me, you can't be saying those things because you have no proof. You may be intimidating them. That wasn't my intention to intimidate anybody. I wasn't going to go. I got fed up with them when they said that. I said, 'Look, I’m just not going to go (to ACC Media Day). The university said that's the best thing. Not anymore. It's not going to happen any more that way.
Q: WHAT CHANGED?
PITINO: Because when I hear all these things are going on and nobody is sticking up for us, except those 11 people that moved forward and said, ‘No, that’s not true.’ And then I hear the comment that Kenny and John Carns got, and I, how can they keep a four-year journal? What’s going on here? You know what I always say, the truth lies somewhere in the middle sometimes. If there’s 20 times, there’s been 10. If you say there’s $10,000, there’s $3,000 or $4,000 that was passed. Or maybe there was none passed. So I’m bothered by it. Like I said, since the way we run the program here, I believe in it wholeheartedly, I believe in Tom Jurich the way he tells every coach, I’m behind you 100 percent but don’t break a single rule. I know what was said to me. I know what was said to Rex (Ecarma) over at tennis. I know what was said to our football coach and our track coach. And I believe in the way we do things, and I believe we have been wronged. We have been wronged. Now, did one person do some scurrilous things? I believe so. From what I know now, I believe so. The only thing I don’t know, I don’t know why he did it. I just, for the life of me, can’t figure out — he knew better, he was taught better, by his parents and by me.
So that’s the last I’ll mention it. I’m sure you’re thankful of that. But I do want to wish all of you a Happy New Year. I’m proud of the team we have right now. I’ve had more fun coaching this basketball team every single day than I’ve had since I’ve been here. And I think it will carry over into next year. And I think it will, if we get Wake Forest and get on a good home winning streak, I think some good things will happen to this basketball team come March.
One thing i believe RP is worried about is his legacy. And i think thats why he did the comparison to Joe Paw. In the end the media destroyed the man to the point he was dead in less then a year.
Just in my opinion it hurts him when places like UK and Boston look at him in a bad lifht. He has made comments that he rarely goes back to Boston now because how it ended. And we all know how uk fans feel about him.
I think he will fight tooth and nail not to let that happen a ul. Thats the reason for the joe paw reference. Basically he was comparing his situation to joe paw. In the end it did not matter what joe paw knew or didnt , the media and the ncaa literally tried to erase the man from history. RP will fight before he lets that happen.
Just in my opinion it hurts him when places like UK and Boston look at him in a bad lifht. He has made comments that he rarely goes back to Boston now because how it ended. And we all know how uk fans feel about him.
I think he will fight tooth and nail not to let that happen a ul. Thats the reason for the joe paw reference. Basically he was comparing his situation to joe paw. In the end it did not matter what joe paw knew or didnt , the media and the ncaa literally tried to erase the man from history. RP will fight before he lets that happen.
His only mistakes, imo, were droning on in somewhat rambling fashion after nailing the fur to the wall, allowing just the squeeze room for the writers such as Sullivan to pontificate later about the mystery factor and leaving a tiny crack in the door - and seeming to acknowledge that "something occurred". ESPN will use edited footage of the presser to obtain the most compliant sequences to their own story. He should have - easy for me to say, of course - stated his case and moved on. He had it all wrapped up in mere minutes. Her verbosity hurts him a bit, to say nothing of the rope he threw out to the miscreant writers. F--- them - they still need to pay.
The true bottom line will be Andre McGee and his lawyer's attitude towards events. This is what I am most interested in. It has dearly cost Andre - rightly or wrongly - and, should it all be bogus, I want to be able to count on Andre trying to resuscitate his good name if these events are made up versions of yet another tired extortion event by small minded gold diggers. This would be a phase 2-3 event, after the various investigations take place. We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage and, virtually, an entire career going forward. That's a 7 figure claim which the deeper pockets - such as ESPN - may end up facing.
Then there is the primary pisser - ESPN and ABC/Disney giving this harridan an entire and repeated national forum for the salacious allusions. This was nothing more than a book-selling routine, complete with an agenda which still mystifies UofL fans. For fans of a program which has led to so many Academic All Americans, GPA's which have led 3 different conferences in academic achievements, including grad students playing ball and an Oxford Scholar - the reputation of Louisville in fan perceptions seems woefully behind the times. Every single effort made to achieve not just an improved, but a high character "example program" get tossed to the ground like just another piece of trash by the salaciousness so appealing to idiots.
When your local writers - in your own burg - (and Tipton is not a bad equivalent in Lexington - turn on you, it might just piss you off a little bit.
The true bottom line will be Andre McGee and his lawyer's attitude towards events. This is what I am most interested in. It has dearly cost Andre - rightly or wrongly - and, should it all be bogus, I want to be able to count on Andre trying to resuscitate his good name if these events are made up versions of yet another tired extortion event by small minded gold diggers. This would be a phase 2-3 event, after the various investigations take place. We are talking hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of damage and, virtually, an entire career going forward. That's a 7 figure claim which the deeper pockets - such as ESPN - may end up facing.
Then there is the primary pisser - ESPN and ABC/Disney giving this harridan an entire and repeated national forum for the salacious allusions. This was nothing more than a book-selling routine, complete with an agenda which still mystifies UofL fans. For fans of a program which has led to so many Academic All Americans, GPA's which have led 3 different conferences in academic achievements, including grad students playing ball and an Oxford Scholar - the reputation of Louisville in fan perceptions seems woefully behind the times. Every single effort made to achieve not just an improved, but a high character "example program" get tossed to the ground like just another piece of trash by the salaciousness so appealing to idiots.
When your local writers - in your own burg - (and Tipton is not a bad equivalent in Lexington - turn on you, it might just piss you off a little bit.
Another thing - the allusions to the similarities with Duke Lacrosse, lol. Those allegations were proven to be based on prosecutorial excesses which robbed an excellent coach of his job, created two new felons out of whole cloth, caused a tsunammi of Church Lady panic in jealous fans of other programs who spent an entire year or more condemning Duke for something which did not even happen.
Here's a snippet from a later article by a remorseful ESPN:
Falsely-accused Duke lacrosse players seek millions, reforms
RALEIGH, N.C. -- More than a year ago, Dave Evans made his
way through throngs of reporters to turn himself in at the Durham
County jail as one of three Duke University lacrosse players
charged with rape.
On Friday, the prosecutor who wrongly accused those men, Mike
Nifong, made that same perp walk.
In a come-full-circle moment, the former Durham County district
attorney who unrelentingly led the rape investigation reported to
jail to serve a 24-hour sentence for lying to a judge. The crime
was just part of the misconduct that allowed the case to linger for
months despite a lack of evidence, and that ultimately led to
Nifong's disbarment.
"I keep reflecting back to where we were a year ago when we
were begging him to look at the truth and look at the facts, and he
seemed committed to doing exactly what he pleased," said Jim
Cooney, who represented exonerated player Reade Seligmann. "He
probably feels like he's in a lake of fire right now. But if he
does, he needs to come to the realization that he set that fire."
Nifong arrived about 20 minutes before his 9 a.m. deadline to
report to jail, surrounded by about 20 supporters and family members. They formed a protective cluster to walk Nifong into the building, with supporters at the front carrying signs that read, "We believe in your integrity and goodness."
The number of onlookers outside the jail was significantly fewer
than greeted Evans after his May 2006 indictment at the height of the case's intensity, but Nifong still found about 20 reporters and a handful of hecklers waiting for him.
"Justice works!" a woman shouted.
"I hope your family gets what you gave those families, you scumbag," a man said loudly.
Here's a snippet from a later article by a remorseful ESPN:
Falsely-accused Duke lacrosse players seek millions, reforms
RALEIGH, N.C. -- More than a year ago, Dave Evans made his
way through throngs of reporters to turn himself in at the Durham
County jail as one of three Duke University lacrosse players
charged with rape.
On Friday, the prosecutor who wrongly accused those men, Mike
Nifong, made that same perp walk.
In a come-full-circle moment, the former Durham County district
attorney who unrelentingly led the rape investigation reported to
jail to serve a 24-hour sentence for lying to a judge. The crime
was just part of the misconduct that allowed the case to linger for
months despite a lack of evidence, and that ultimately led to
Nifong's disbarment.
"I keep reflecting back to where we were a year ago when we
were begging him to look at the truth and look at the facts, and he
seemed committed to doing exactly what he pleased," said Jim
Cooney, who represented exonerated player Reade Seligmann. "He
probably feels like he's in a lake of fire right now. But if he
does, he needs to come to the realization that he set that fire."
Nifong arrived about 20 minutes before his 9 a.m. deadline to
report to jail, surrounded by about 20 supporters and family members. They formed a protective cluster to walk Nifong into the building, with supporters at the front carrying signs that read, "We believe in your integrity and goodness."
The number of onlookers outside the jail was significantly fewer
than greeted Evans after his May 2006 indictment at the height of the case's intensity, but Nifong still found about 20 reporters and a handful of hecklers waiting for him.
"Justice works!" a woman shouted.
"I hope your family gets what you gave those families, you scumbag," a man said loudly.
Well...I never!............
UK fans, so tore up about Rick's fanger. It went past hilarious a while back. Now it's just poop-smeared faces pressed against the glass. His fanger!! His fanger!!
UK fans, so tore up about Rick's fanger. It went past hilarious a while back. Now it's just poop-smeared faces pressed against the glass. His fanger!! His fanger!!
And Trash Can Larry just appeared yesterday, awakened from his drunken slumber.
I'll be glad when him and Bozich are broke in a few years and have to move in together under the same rock.
That's your opinion--whether it mattered. And that was the key point in the Paterno analogy by Pitino, whether either guy knew. Understood that it doesn't matter to the NCAA as far as right and wrong.
The crime at the center of the Paterno analogy is far more unconscionable. But the aspect that it went on for years may make it applicable to this situation, which we'll know for sure after the facts come out.
"Elite program", my a$$...
More assumptions... For me, it started with "I can't tell" and "I don't care". The latter still resonates.
No fanbase deserves that gesture more than yours. And Jesus Christ has my permission to administer it, if he wants. Won't denigrate him in my eyes.
"Elite program", my a$$...
LOL, I saw the presser as a taped event. Frankly, how funny is it that you are still parsing it all when his and my disgust over just how lame the entire issue is was made very clear.
When you catch up with things, give us a call on your phone.
I say good for Rick. The media has many rights, but being treated with kid gloves by people they screw over isn't one of them.
Anyone who has paid attention to the man's career should know that there is not a chance in hell that if anything below board was actually going on, that Rick knew about it. At any point if he found out something, he would have reported it and shut it down immediately. The fact that the guy has slipped up in his marriage doesn't mean he'd condone the type of criminal behavior he alludes to in his comments. He ran a clean program at UK and I believe he runs a clean program at Louisville.
My belief on this whole thing is that, as in most cases where you have absolutes being possibilities on both ends of a spectrum, the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle. I don't think a reasonable observer believes 100% of what Powell (an admitted criminal herself) says, nor should a belief be held that absolutely nothing happened. Hopefully, an unbiased and fair investigation is conducted and we can all find out the truth - although I think it will be a much less glamorous version than some of my fellow UK fans are hoping for. Parties? Strippers? Probably. But I believe that goes on in a lot of places. A member of the UofL coaching staff paying underage hookers to have sex with recruits/players? I highly doubt it.
Anyone who has paid attention to the man's career should know that there is not a chance in hell that if anything below board was actually going on, that Rick knew about it. At any point if he found out something, he would have reported it and shut it down immediately. The fact that the guy has slipped up in his marriage doesn't mean he'd condone the type of criminal behavior he alludes to in his comments. He ran a clean program at UK and I believe he runs a clean program at Louisville.
My belief on this whole thing is that, as in most cases where you have absolutes being possibilities on both ends of a spectrum, the truth probably falls somewhere in the middle. I don't think a reasonable observer believes 100% of what Powell (an admitted criminal herself) says, nor should a belief be held that absolutely nothing happened. Hopefully, an unbiased and fair investigation is conducted and we can all find out the truth - although I think it will be a much less glamorous version than some of my fellow UK fans are hoping for. Parties? Strippers? Probably. But I believe that goes on in a lot of places. A member of the UofL coaching staff paying underage hookers to have sex with recruits/players? I highly doubt it.
What I like about Pitino's comments is that he explained his frustration about getting trashed in the news. The facts haven't come out, yet he is already the bad guy and people want him gone. No one much has scrutinized Powell's comments and she has been given a national stage (with ESPN) to share them. ESPN is about the ratings.
I think it's easier to do this with Pitino, unfortunately, because of his past. He is the easy target, in a way, in some ways like the Patriots and Deflategate. Nobody liked the Patriots so it was easier at first to say unsubstantiated things. In our state, many Kentucky fans hate U of L. It's easier to find willing listeners to unproven stories. Some U of K fans even still view Pitino as a traitor. The rivalry with U of K has gotten so intense that some people don't/won't look at issues objectively.
I would rather someone, though, admit to being human rather than act like they have never made mistakes. The event with Sypher and Powel share a sexual aspect in the story, though really are unrelated. Teams Calipari coached at U Mass and Memphis vacated final fours. To my understanding with the way the NCAA rules have changed, he would have been suspended today for the same violations.
I agree with Pitino addressing Bozich's comments. Sure Pitino monitors many minor aspects of his players - even body fat percentages. But a coach, or parent, can't control what a 20 or 22 year old does every minute of the day.
I like this Fox Sports article: "Let Rick Pitino defend himself until there's proof he can't"
Link: http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...ck-pitino-press-conference-sex-scandal-010116
I think it's easier to do this with Pitino, unfortunately, because of his past. He is the easy target, in a way, in some ways like the Patriots and Deflategate. Nobody liked the Patriots so it was easier at first to say unsubstantiated things. In our state, many Kentucky fans hate U of L. It's easier to find willing listeners to unproven stories. Some U of K fans even still view Pitino as a traitor. The rivalry with U of K has gotten so intense that some people don't/won't look at issues objectively.
I would rather someone, though, admit to being human rather than act like they have never made mistakes. The event with Sypher and Powel share a sexual aspect in the story, though really are unrelated. Teams Calipari coached at U Mass and Memphis vacated final fours. To my understanding with the way the NCAA rules have changed, he would have been suspended today for the same violations.
I agree with Pitino addressing Bozich's comments. Sure Pitino monitors many minor aspects of his players - even body fat percentages. But a coach, or parent, can't control what a 20 or 22 year old does every minute of the day.
I like this Fox Sports article: "Let Rick Pitino defend himself until there's proof he can't"
Link: http://www.foxsports.com/college-ba...ck-pitino-press-conference-sex-scandal-010116
Did you also see the Fox article that Rick is the mot hated coach screw Fox their a Blood programs lover.
Rick is to emotional right now. He needs to shut up and follow his bosses instructions. These types of outbursts have no positive results. He isn't convincing anyone to chance their opinions of him so why respond. This press conference only reveals how affected he has become by the scandal which will have no effect on the investigation or his legacy.
Don't know why Pitino referred his situation to Paterno? Paterno admitted he was told of Sandusky's crimes on 2 separate occasions a decade apart, but didn't do enough, only told his bosses. Paterno was treated lightly by the media for allowing an accused child rapist access to the program even after the monster starts a children's charity. Paterno is lucky he passed away or he would be awaiting trial like those other 3 PSU administrators.
You're right, but the guy just can't help himself. He wants to fix things himself, and he's used to doing that quickly and on his schedule. His lack of control in this situation is driving a true control freak crazy.
I can sympathize with him a little having gone through a legal process recently. You want to clear your name asap, and it's frustrating. The difference between him and me is I'm not on life's treadmill like he is. Everything with him has to be addressed now with maximum effort. That's not the way legal and bureaucratic processes work. I'm more action-oriented than not, but nobody compares in that department to Pitino...
Yeah, but that absurdly transparent hit piece done by Torres (in a football section) was written by Calipari;s author of his last book.
Sure, Rick doesn't mean any sort of impassable mountain in Cal's fat eyeballs.
