Didn't he just win the NBA title and return his entire team? Doesn't sound realistic.
Not bailing on CRP, but...
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Didn't he just win the NBA title and return his entire team? Doesn't sound realistic.
Shaka would be a brilliant hire and a perfect fit - but that window has passed (for now). If the worst case happens and we're forced to have an interim weather some sanctions/post-season bans for a few years, then that window may re-open. A little.
He also has health issues. 82 games vs 40 games might appeal to him. Of course he doesnt have to recruit in the NBA so could be a wash but I wouldnt be shocked by it.
KP is an NCAA violation period. The dude is as crooked as they come. Eff him.
All Kenny Payne knows is how to recruit with the help of NBA jocks, NBA agents and hot rappers. There is way more to winning than that as we all saw from Cal last year. Total dud. No thanks, No way
WWW would never allow Kenny Payne to coach at UofL.He placed him with Cal and that's where he will stay until told otherwise.Kenny is not recruiting much either,thats just a front.The top players uofk gets for a few months are assigned to go there.
If Tom Jurich said this is the only one for the job.It would be a done deal.We witnessed that before and it didn't matter how many big blue didn't like it and said"Do you really think Pitino is a possibility" .Like always just know that Jurich is on the job and will get it right. Do you think Donovan would take the uofk job?LOL
First, Louisville is a top 5 job. With IU being garbage and Uconn no longer relevant, this job is up in top tier. 3 NC, 2 HOF. Plus we pay for quality and our history.
Tier 1 List.
Greg Marshall has to be at top of list. Great NCAA resume, can recruit elite talent and can coach up guys. Runs a clean program. Dude plays up tempo, would be a great fit, plus he's looking for a top tier job.
Brad Stevens. Don't think he's leaving Boston, however, was still unproven. Sure two FF in a row, but still flavor of month. Low on list but would gauge interest.
Billy Donavon. He never got fan support in Florida. 23000 a game will change your mind making NBA money here. Runs a similar style as a Pitino disciple, 2 NC, could retire here and probably candidate 1b.
Sean Miller. Probably not leaving UA, but high level recruiter, solid coach, just young. Worth feeling out.
Jay Wright. Villanova runs a solid program, good runs, may not want another Italian. UofL could be the program that pushes him.
Tier II
Archie Miller. Still unproven, but now nice runs in ncaa shows can coach and has good pedigree. Probably too young for a program this size.
Mick Cronin. Nice work at UC, former assistant, may not be proven enough, but worth a look.
Larry Krystkowiak at Utah. Made a nice run last year, 25-9, Sweet 16 run, might be a nice dark horse.
A few smaller coaches on the rise like Bobby Hurley, but not established enough. Program is too big for an assistant coach.
Just some random thoughts.
Tier 1 List.
Greg Marshall has to be at top of list. Great NCAA resume, can recruit elite talent and can coach up guys. Runs a clean program. Dude plays up tempo, would be a great fit, plus he's looking for a top tier job.
Brad Stevens. Don't think he's leaving Boston, however, was still unproven. Sure two FF in a row, but still flavor of month. Low on list but would gauge interest.
Billy Donavon. He never got fan support in Florida. 23000 a game will change your mind making NBA money here. Runs a similar style as a Pitino disciple, 2 NC, could retire here and probably candidate 1b.
Sean Miller. Probably not leaving UA, but high level recruiter, solid coach, just young. Worth feeling out.
Jay Wright. Villanova runs a solid program, good runs, may not want another Italian. UofL could be the program that pushes him.
Tier II
Archie Miller. Still unproven, but now nice runs in ncaa shows can coach and has good pedigree. Probably too young for a program this size.
Mick Cronin. Nice work at UC, former assistant, may not be proven enough, but worth a look.
Larry Krystkowiak at Utah. Made a nice run last year, 25-9, Sweet 16 run, might be a nice dark horse.
A few smaller coaches on the rise like Bobby Hurley, but not established enough. Program is too big for an assistant coach.
Just some random thoughts.
Solid, well thought out list. It is interesting how the dynamics can completely change in an instant. Three months ago any list would have included RP Jr. - provided he had proven himself at other programs - and now he is a complete non-starter. I think that RP makes it thru this season and possibly the next with the understanding that at a time that is beneficial for the university, he will move into a different role.
From what I've been told, Donovan has been at the top of TJ's short list list for the last 5 years - could be a wait and see deal on how his nba experience will play out. Stevens is simply not coming - put that fantasy out of your heads - nor is Sean Miller - but Marshall is definitely on this list and I believe, would make the switch.
Yea, I don't think Stevens is that realistic but you definitely have to see if he's interested. Sean Miller might be too rooted, but UofL is a job you'd leave your current job for.
Utahs coach will be getting more looks if he has another good season
Really hard to get a handle on what direction we go if the job opens.
A lot will depend on the condition of the program at the time of hiring.
A lot will depend on the condition of the program at the time of hiring.
Yep, I want to look into Bill Self. Wow, put me on the troll train. I don't know why but I am going to anyway, yes, I think Self is worth a look. I don't know if he'd come here but it's not that crazy. Roy Williams left Kansas for UNC. I know Kansas is one of the best jobs in the country but so are we. We are a top 6 program in my opinion.
So why would Self be interested? He's been at Kansas for a long time now. They play in a dumpy old arena and don't have near the facilities we have here. I don't get the impression that Self gets the treatment he deserves at Kansas. It's much like Kentucky, win it all or they're ready to run you out of town. Just ask Tubby Smith. Again, there are obviously reasons Self would stay at Kansas and I am not saying 100% he'd take it but how many though Rick Pitino would take the job last time around? The question was who would we want. Well, that's who I'd want. If that makes me a troll, I guess I'm a troll.
Can anyone name a Coach Caliparinassistant coach that has had any sustained success?
We get it, you are a troll. Yea, Bill Self is going to leave a program, where he just went to NC a few years ago, has a top 3 job in the nation in terms of prestige and tradition. Its outrageous, and no one believes he would be offered nor would look to come here. You are trying to be extreme, just like your posts on Rupp Rafters, to make others think we are crazy. Go back to the UK boards, where this type of logic exists. Maybe Coach K wants to retire here?
Can we get elite coaches? Obviously, back to back HOF, and have our pick of available coaches as UofL is a top 5 coaching job (if not number 1) but your hyperbole in your posts is obviously trying to mock the fans here. Its getting old, and we see through your obvious schtick. Learn better trolling.
I like Harvard's coach.
I also like Mark Jackson a lot. Greg Marshall just doesn't really move my meter. I want a coach who understands the role entertainment plays.
I also like Mark Jackson a lot. Greg Marshall just doesn't really move my meter. I want a coach who understands the role entertainment plays.
So loaded @ first glance LOL
But I get it. I think there is a portion of our fan base that values entertainment immensely.
I'm open minded in terms of who we would approach, but unlike some programs that have a list a mile long, TJ typically has a very short list and gets his man.
So color me unconcerned. Barring, catastrophic findings from our "situation" that put us behind an 8 ball - but I haven't seen anything that would suggest something horrible is coming.
Again, no one thought we'd offer or land Rick Pitino either but we did. So glad Tom doesn't think like you do.
Just to finish this off, I didn't say that Self would definitely come here. The question was posed, who do you want. I would like Self. Yes, there is a good chance he never comes here but you never know and I cited reasons is "could". Not that he "would". There is a big difference.
Like I said in the beginning, I had always been a big fan of the guy from Villanova. Still like him but I am not sure he is a the level he once was. Should I pack him away in the column of never would come here too. Thanks for telling us all how to think and who we should or shouldn't want.
He wins so obviously I would like him but he doesn't play a style I would particularly like to watch. I think I'd rather try elsewhere first.
I'm not sure who I want. I don't want Greg Marshall, I don't want Richard Pitino, I don't think we have a shot at Billy D or Brad Stevens or Sean Miller.
I want a coach who embraces the modern state of college basketball. A coach who understands that recruiting elite players and creating an environment that elite players want to play in is pivotal to year in and year out success. I want a coach who embraces the media and the hoopla of the Louisville program, one that promotes the program at every turn and embraces former players and encourages them to return to campus.
I'm not sure who you can hire to be all of those things. I would settle for a coach plugged into recruiting and one that can consistently get 1 or 2 of the top 15 players on campus year in and year out and surround them with a roster of top 50 players.
I want a coach who embraces the modern state of college basketball. A coach who understands that recruiting elite players and creating an environment that elite players want to play in is pivotal to year in and year out success. I want a coach who embraces the media and the hoopla of the Louisville program, one that promotes the program at every turn and embraces former players and encourages them to return to campus.
I'm not sure who you can hire to be all of those things. I would settle for a coach plugged into recruiting and one that can consistently get 1 or 2 of the top 15 players on campus year in and year out and surround them with a roster of top 50 players.
1. No recruit cares that you have 1 more title in 35 years.
2. No major recruit cares
3. Kansas still gets more exposure in Big 12 than UL does
4. Got me on that one, The Yum is a pretty damn good arena. Beautiful!!
5. More supportive fan base than KU? I don't think so.
That's 1 of 5 for your reason. I'm not saying UL is not a great place to play because I think it will be again, I don't think it's very attractive to recruits right now and I don't think Pitino has much credibility with recruits and parents. With that said, UL is an elite program and will bounce back if they make a good hire after Pitino.
I agree. The next hire for UL will be the most important ever for the school. Once this all passes, with the arena that you have with those facilities, UL will draw a big name. Don't think they'll draw Steve Kerr big but guys like Smart, Miller, Marshall, and maybe Stevens (if in few years) may be a possibility. I'm hoping for Miller or Stevens to UK after Cal decides to retire.
Literally none of those things matter.
- If elite kids cared about championships they wouldn't be going to Arizona, LSU, Maryland, NC State, Cal, Syracuse, Florida State, UNLV, Ohio State, Mississippi State, Alabama, etc and the various other basketball programs that either have no championships or haven't won one in years.
- Location doesn't matter. If it did Scott Drew would never get kids to Baylor. Have you ever been to Lexington, Durham, Chapel Hill, etc? Not amazing locations.
- Conference affiliation doesn't matter...look at the # of elite recruits in the SEC right now. It matters so little that kids are going to football schools in football conferences and they don't care.
- If facilities mattered Oklahoma State and Oregon would be #1 recruiting...have you seen their facilities?
- Fan base isn't probably even on the list of top 10 things that 98% of elite recruits think about.
Elite kids care if your coach runs a successful system.
They care if the coach is likable and fun to play for.
They care about the coach preparing them for the transition to the NBA
They care about the coach getting them drafted in the 1st round and(or) lottery
Some care about being out of the limelight (see Jaylen Brown, Malik Newman, etc) and some want to go to a place and be a rock star (see John Wall, Okafor, Marquis Teague, etc)
Bottom line is kids want to play for a likable coach that can prepare them for the NBA and can get them drafted high. Thats nearly all you need to know.
Any ideas of who you would want? (CRP isnt going anywhere, so obvious hypothetical)
Just to play along because I don't think CRP is going anywhere. I would to give a vote for Archie Miller. Seems like the Gators were very close to hiring him as Donovan's replacement. Has good pedigree with his brother and his dad was a good coach. Definitely up and coming and would bring great energy.
Ideally, I would want Shaka Smart or Sean Miller. I think having a young, energetic coach like Shaka Smart at a place like Louisville would be a great hire but at the same time I worry about his ability to recruit elite talent which is something he's never done and the exact reason I don't want Greg Marshall. So the obvious choice is Sean Miller for me but I do think it may be hard to pull him out of Arizona but UL could nearly double his current salary ($2.6 million) and you have to assume any intelligent man would at least sit down and talk details when he can double his salary.
I think Rick's future is a little more shaky than most on here, especially since Powell is meeting with the NCAA. But for the record I don' think there will be anything that comes out that links Rick to the scandal but if the bulk of these serious accusations are proven true then one would have to think the board would then be forced to take some action to demonstrate that changes are being made to fix the issues. This is all from the perspective that a number of the claims in the book are going to be proven true, in that event I don't see how the University and the board of trustees simply sit back and allow Pitino and his entire staff to skate by and claim McGee was a complete rouge coach because of how blatantly insane that would appear and without making changes inside the program it would give off the perception that the University isn't taking it seriously. Thats just my two cents though and I openly admit that I probably have a drastically different opinion on this saga than 90% of the fan base.
Timing / circumstances matter of course but if you think that Donovan is out of UofL's grasp, you're delusional. Will all have to play out with his nba tenure but, he's been on TJ's short list for years and just because he had no interest in the Kentucky job, has no bearing on the Louisville job.
Billy D to Louisville would only occur if a miraculous series of convenient events occurred.
If Billy was looking to return to the college game during a time when Rick was looking to walk away from the college game then I 100% think Rick would reach out to Billy D to replace him at Louisville and if that occurred I 100% think Billy D would take the job.
Billy D didn't take the UK job because of Rick in my personal opinion.
If Billy was looking to return to the college game during a time when Rick was looking to walk away from the college game then I 100% think Rick would reach out to Billy D to replace him at Louisville and if that occurred I 100% think Billy D would take the job.
Billy D didn't take the UK job because of Rick in my personal opinion.
I agree - which is why (if the timing were right) Pitino would be an advocate to Donovan regarding the Louisville job. There a ton more obstacles to this happening a couple years ago but for spurned yut fans to say it's impossible - is laughable.
This classifies as one of the dumbest premises ever made on this message board.
Pitino won a title at the last college job he had prior to taking this one, and the time apart from the title at UK to the hiring day at UofL was not long at all.
You cannot make up the absurdity you have just provided.
Pitino was actually considered the hottest commodity on the market at the time of his hire here. Michigan and UNLV courted him strongly.
Congratulations, you have proven you know absolutely nothing about what you are typing about, you big freak you.
The hilarity is compounded by your self proclamation of bursting bubbles.
This guy has to be a Louisville fan in disguise trying to make UK fans look dumb.
He's gotta be.
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Underestimating Jurich has become a time-honored UK take. 16 UofL programs ended up ranked last year. The Year Of The Cardinal must seem like some distant memory to UK fans who very well may see it again sooner than they think. Like maybe next year. Too bad, too, because I'm thinking we do really well in Omaha this season.
