Boosters actually mean close to everything in the grand scheme. Money is important in this ever evolving arms race we call college athletics. Plus, when the boosters are alumni, there's added importance.
Mr. Jim Patterson wanting TJ back as AD
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Agree 100% with all of this. Regardless of how I personally feel about TJ, others may not feel that way and that would create roadblocks for him. Plus, being out of the game, his contacts/relationship with those contacts may have moved on and/or not be as responsive to him. Let's face it, when your basketball team is always in the national title discussion and your football team is in BCS/CFP discussions (and winning a Heisman), people are going to follow you.
Oh the everyone cheats so it’s ok for us to cheat? We haven’t fared too well and obvious cheating won’t help.
Yeah, some folks at KU decided to retain Bill Self. How’s that working out so far?…
You can’t be stupid and cheat. You better be a lock tight organization. I already like the lack of information leaking from the program.
Cheating today has taken on a new meaning so don’t be the 1st school to be caught tampering.
Glassman: don’t try putting your inferences into my words. The consequences of bringing Tom back as AD are not as predictable as you suggest.
I witnessed Kansas and Bill Self send a powerful message to the NCAA before winning the NC, and did it again when winning the Championship. Ironically UNC, the runner up argued their defense of academic fraud most effectively, which resulted in the COI dropping their allegations. History shows that it is possible to defend yourself against the NCAA.
Postel, Papa John and Grissom made sure that Jurich and UL would not have that opportunity to present its defense with the NCAA.
I witnessed Kansas and Bill Self send a powerful message to the NCAA before winning the NC, and did it again when winning the Championship. Ironically UNC, the runner up argued their defense of academic fraud most effectively, which resulted in the COI dropping their allegations. History shows that it is possible to defend yourself against the NCAA.
Postel, Papa John and Grissom made sure that Jurich and UL would not have that opportunity to present its defense with the NCAA.
Jurich went lockstep with Smrt recommendations. Are we supposed to assume he was gonna get it right the second time around? There is some revisionist history going on here.
Ramsey followed Smrt, ill advisedly as everyone recognized immediately in the aftermath.
Jurich never had the opportunity to deal with Pitino wrt Adidas. He said so…
It's not a hire-or-fire decision. It's about damage control, a skill that clowns have proven the last five years they don't have a clue about.
No one's ever argued that Pitino should still be here (although I've started questioning that outcome). Most informed people will say we screwed ourselves about as badly as possible handling his exit.
And that's ALL been about the new regime...
Jurich/Ramsey handled the Powell situation incorrectly. They blindly followed Smrt. This presumption that the Adidas situation would’ve been handled correctly by Jurich is purely TJ sunshine pumping.
Hopefully the university can move forward with a forward thinking President and AD.
Jurich had very little to do with self imposing. He and Pitino had to come out publicly and immediately to rescue Ramsey when lynch mobs were forming.
And Jurich was skilled at damage control. U of L seldom took a step back under his watch when any mistake was made or a decision turned out badly.
We have none of that ability anymore. We simply make things worse. And that's entirely about the people in charge...
And Jurich was skilled at damage control. U of L seldom took a step back under his watch when any mistake was made or a decision turned out badly.
We have none of that ability anymore. We simply make things worse. And that's entirely about the people in charge...
We can all look back at the Powell situation now and critique all the decisions but at the time that was a ugly situation. There was no denying what happened. The problem was no one knew the NCAA would punish Louisville on a morality issue. The violations themselves didn’t support the punishment.
The adidas situation moved way too fast but Jurich knew the landscape was changing quickly. He made his decision.
IMO Jurich has way too many enemies to come back as AD. It would end badly. At the end of the day people were gunning for him. He and the University need to mend fences. If Jurich wants the best for Louisville, not himself, get involved in a advisory role. Help bring back boosters advise on coaching searching and growth. Be a positive influence instead of a negative one.
The adidas situation moved way too fast but Jurich knew the landscape was changing quickly. He made his decision.
IMO Jurich has way too many enemies to come back as AD. It would end badly. At the end of the day people were gunning for him. He and the University need to mend fences. If Jurich wants the best for Louisville, not himself, get involved in a advisory role. Help bring back boosters advise on coaching searching and growth. Be a positive influence instead of a negative one.
If Jurich has enemies, it’s because he created them. Much like other autocrats we know. Everyone in a position at a public institution has to answer to someone.
I agree, but when you are that successful there are always people that want to bring you down. Big ego’s get people to the top but an ego unchecked ultimately comes back to bite them. He gave his enemies the ammunition they needed.
I still go back to if Jurich really loved Louisville why hasn’t he mended fences?
I still go back to if Jurich really loved Louisville why hasn’t he mended fences?
I truly believe it was not how he was handled but the way Mark was treated.. I don’t know how you rectify that situation.
Isn’t that a 2-way street?
What decision? He never had an opportunity to deal with Pitino.
If Jurich was to return, other stuff would have to change. But that needs to happen anyway. Jurich or not, we’re headed nowhere good…
I actually had it is a 2 way street my OP but removed it. It is for sure but he can dictate the healing in my mind.
He was given the opportunity to fire Rick. I agree it wasn’t wise to make him make the call without due diligence.
He was given the opportunity to fire Rick. I agree it wasn’t wise to make him make the call without due diligence.
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That’s what I’ve heard as the reason why there’s not been any thawing of the relationship. As a parent I get it - you mess with me, it’s something I can process. You mess with my child - and it goes to a completely different level.
1) Screw Kansas, I hope they lose every game
2) I wish Louisville had done exactly what Kansas did because I'm jealous. The NCAA commissioner had to hand the trophy to Bill Self and his five Level 1 violations, lol, WOW.
Tom only asked for time to investigate the circumstances related to the allegations directed towards Rick, before agreeing to terminate anyone. The "rush to judgement" led by Postel, and the influence by David Grissom's with the BOT was reactive and absent of much of the actual facts. Grissom and Schnatter both had a predetermined agenda, based on their own personal animosity towards Jurich, and they were unwilling to allow the facts to emerge about who did what, and whether Pitino was actually complicit in the inferences contained inside the FBI report that was made public.
I personally believe that Pitino would have volunteered his resignation to Tom, as he had acknowledged that he was responsible for his own negligence as it related to his assistants, his staff his recruits. I further believe that Tom would have accepted his departure, but on a schedule that would have preserved the basketball program from so many of those subsequent damaging developments. After years of sworn testimony, there is no evidence that Pitino either had knowledge or participation in compensating Bowen or his family. There is absolutely no reason that McGee, Johnson or others staff members, coaches, players or recruits would not testify that Pitino was involved, if there was any evidence of Rick participating in any of those allegations. I think Jurich would have conducted that examination very quickly, and avoided a lot of the fall out that we are still dealing with.
I personally believe that Pitino would have volunteered his resignation to Tom, as he had acknowledged that he was responsible for his own negligence as it related to his assistants, his staff his recruits. I further believe that Tom would have accepted his departure, but on a schedule that would have preserved the basketball program from so many of those subsequent damaging developments. After years of sworn testimony, there is no evidence that Pitino either had knowledge or participation in compensating Bowen or his family. There is absolutely no reason that McGee, Johnson or others staff members, coaches, players or recruits would not testify that Pitino was involved, if there was any evidence of Rick participating in any of those allegations. I think Jurich would have conducted that examination very quickly, and avoided a lot of the fall out that we are still dealing with.
I’ll address your first sentence. After experiencing the she who will not be named fiasco, why did TJ need time investigating?
Who in their right minds would beleive Pitino would volunteer his resignation . Man can you send me some of that good sticky ickey your smoking !
Why do we need qualified people as an AD or President just go ahead and hire Heird and that idiot interim President. We really don’t need people with proven track records of success that can not only raise money but can also help us win championships. It doesn’t matter anymore if we become equal to mid major schools because of bad leadership because we are in the ACC. I agree if Jurich really loved the University he should do everything he can to fix our problems even if we screwed him and his family over.
This sums it all period!
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The TJ>AD Imposition
This comes at a moment just when the Cardinal men’s basketball program has gained some ballast, when there is legit hope for the days to come, when the fan base for the first time in several years...
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By all means - let’s all follow the lead of Seedy K and redfistofnonsense.This sums it all period!
The TJ>AD Imposition
This comes at a moment just when the Cardinal men’s basketball program has gained some ballast, when there is legit hope for the days to come, when the fan base for the first time in several years...
