Nike will buy the evidence , just like they hepled SuCkS buy the evidence from the Chicago Sun Times , and
They helped clean up Bama football and Duke's buying of players.
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Nike will buy the evidence , just like they hepled SuCkS buy the evidence from the Chicago Sun Times , and
They helped clean up Bama football and Duke's buying of players.
My attitude--not paying players--has nothing to do with great players deserving to be paid, even good ones. It's about what paying them does to the game. It reduces things to a dispassionate job, prone to hero ball and individual play.
Not interested...
Not interested...
It's not common sense to believe that Adidas was competing against itself.
College athletes should not get paid by the Universities. Take college sports away, how many of the kids playing college sports today would actual attend a 4 year university? The value coach sports provides the individuals and society as a whole is far more valuable then what the NCAA could pay.
The issue is the NCAA limiting any student athlete ability to earn money on their own. In 2022 kids turn pro out of high school. If they want to attend college then let them earn money off their name. Who cares if Zion made $1M-10M legit endorsement deals, no booster just paying a players. Who cares if a athlete because a social media cash cow? At least it is known. There will never be a level playing field in college sports. Kids are already being paid and funneled to different schools. Just bring it out from the shadows.
It benefits the non revenue sport athletes as well. It would take some adjusting but eventually it would become the norm. We already get the uneven performance because kids are trying to get to the NBA or NFL or certain players get all the hype.
The issue is the NCAA limiting any student athlete ability to earn money on their own. In 2022 kids turn pro out of high school. If they want to attend college then let them earn money off their name. Who cares if Zion made $1M-10M legit endorsement deals, no booster just paying a players. Who cares if a athlete because a social media cash cow? At least it is known. There will never be a level playing field in college sports. Kids are already being paid and funneled to different schools. Just bring it out from the shadows.
It benefits the non revenue sport athletes as well. It would take some adjusting but eventually it would become the norm. We already get the uneven performance because kids are trying to get to the NBA or NFL or certain players get all the hype.
I really don't care where the money comes from. The kids who make money for the NCAA deserve to be compensated with more than just a scholarship. How that happens above the table doesn't matter, so I agree it needs to be brought out of the shadows. How about allowing them to sign those endorsement deals or even a pro contract that stipulates they go to college for a undetermined amount of time? 2 years? 3?
If this happens, then they should just call rebrand Men's NCAAB as the NBA Minor League system, shrink FBS to 30-40 teams, and there it is. With football driving the bus (and it does, it's not debatable, these pay for play stuff is for an elite few), an athletic program like Louisville would never have been able to fight and claw its way from where it was when Howard was hired to where it is today. Whether that'd good or bad is an opinion and up to the person to decide I guess.
I do think human beings have the right to control their likeness, regardless of age or student status. If for example Teddy in 2012 wanted to sell red Teddy Bear shirts with a #5 on them, then he should have been able to.
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Hence the buying and hiding of evidence by the afformentioned schools.
If you asked all uofk fans to answer honestyly and asked them if uofk buys players, theyd say yes.
Not every athlete who earns a athletic scholarship is going to turn professional. In fact it’s probably a low percentage.
I don't agree, I think a VERY low percentage would say that. I don't think most schools do. I haven't seen anything to change my mind to date.
I understand that. I agree with that as well. VERY few make it playing pro ball regardless of the sport. Still, the NCAA and universities are taking advantage of the kids now. They were not back when going to college and obtaining a degree for play was a fair compensation. The insane levels of money has made the current trade off of an education for play unfair.
I have a question. Why doesn’t college baseball have the same problem as BBall or football? Their players obviously have the opportunity to make a lot of money professionally but you don’t really hear them having a problem of not getting paid when they’re going to school.
Culture, marketability, and exposure. Baseball is a different culture, caters to a different market, and offers a lower key level of exposure for star athletes. Who’s name is on the hottest pair of cleats at Dick’s sporting goods? Exactly, I don’t know either.
Not to mention the buffer that is the minor league system. There’s a lot of distance between high school and the majors for even the best young players.
My God uk fans are in denial. You all went from tubby and Gillespie recruits to Cal and multiple top ten recruits year after year! Lol, y’all are cheating like a mutha fka! Cal’s last two schools have had wins/banners vacated. F your evidence, all it takes is common sense. Lol, get the f outta here
That was quite astute. So a coach known for good recruiting, who has never been in trouble for recruiting, is somehow obviously guilty of buying players because he is way better at recruiting than Tubby or BCG. Lol, ok I guess evidence of at least something improper is asking too much. Lol, smh.
Calipari has never been in trouble that's funny. He gets the schools in trouble and leaves before the hammer is lowered. He did it at UMass and Memphis just ask their fan bases why they hate him so much.
Ask mattie bangs what he thought of crapiperi when he was at Memphis.....
Crapiperi would NEVER be head coach here.
Id personally see to it.
I think the answer is because college baseball players don't yet deserve to be paid. They're not yet good enough.
And that's again my problem with the pay-the-players solution in basketball. Paid players don't belong in college sports. The path should be paved for them to play at some professional level out of high school...
Hahahaha, Keep your head buried man, I really don’t care. Cal didn’t recruit on this level at UMASS, nor his early years at Memphis, then voila, he turns into recruiting extraordinaire! I just love how uk fan base ring leader Matt Jones blasted him for running a dirty program until of course he became your head coach. There has been plenty of evidence over the years of malfeasance in his programs, nothing tied directly to him of course. That’s what the all powerful dollar will do for ya.
Someone touched on this in an earlier post, but agents aren't big on high school baseball players because the path to the majors is a long curvy road. The demand just isn't there. Really good pitchers and hitters after their junior in college is a little different, their path is accelerated.
The money to support all these non revenue teams is significant, the NCAA as a whole can't pay every athete at every school. Louisville's women program losing 3M and they are successful. There are programs that lose money at their home games because there aren't enough people in the stands to pay the officials. The reality there are only a handful of kids in every sports that would end up with endorsement deals that really mattered. Why can't the Louisville 3 time national champ in swimming profit from her name and accomplishments while in college? What better way to prepare kids for their next step in life especially kids wanting to go into business.
I don't believe in forcing kids to stay if they are talented enough to pursue a career in sports or any profession.
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I hear what you are saying, but I don’t think it’s such a slam dunk. The FBI probe changed that, and in my opinion, that’s a good thing. Also, Zion going 60 miles from his family home to Duke to play for arguably the best coach in college basketball means that his family has no need for a house. Plus, since he’s a sure fire top NBA draft pick after just one season, all he and his family have to do is wait until April 8th (if not sooner) at 11pm to sign a contract with a sports agent, with a deal worth at least $20 million annually to follow a few months later.
The first contract will be about 22M over the first 3 years.
Nothing's wrong with anyone making money on their name. They just don't need to do it in college. You go pro and you leave college. When you're not happy with a situation somewhere you should leave it.
And that settles the issue of which athletes get paid...none of them.
All the other people who answered your question are spot on. No need for me to rehash it again.
I agree college athlete should not get paid for playing their sport. But doesn’t it feel strange knowing an American cannot make a dollar off of his name and likeness in 2019? It does to me and I think that needs to change. I imagine some day it will.
Understood, but shoe contracts and endorsements will at least double that.
I am not for paying college athletes I think it would ruin the college game. I never watch pro sports I think it is too much hero ball. If you think that free tuition, free room & board and free books are not enough just ask those college students who are $100,000 in debt. Ask them what they think there are plenty of them. Like I have said before if the parents and the athletes don't like it then they can all get together build their own arena and stadiums.
No it’s because MLB believes that players have to earn their way through the minors because that’s the way it has always been done. Not quite the same but it’s like NFL QB’s used to be. You had to sit and hold the chart behind a starter for 3-4 years. The NFL is finding that guys can come right out of college and play at a high level. The game of baseball has been the same for a century. Somebody like a McKay or Corey Ray could have easily gone straight to the MAjors in my opinion and do as well as some of these guys. Like I said, hitting a 90 plus FB is the same. Ridiculous to make some of these guys toil in obscurity until they lose their desire or age catches up to them. Sometimes it just whether you get an opportunity and make the most of it. I watched the Seagers, Cameron Maybin and Bumgardner come up through NC HS baseball and several others. They were good but there are a lot of others who were just as good that just didn’t the same breaks or opportunity. Did Adam Engel all of a sudden figure it out in the minors. No he was always blessed with great speed and he’s not hitting any better than he did in college.
I don't follow them in pro ball. But if what you're saying is true, wouldn't guys like McKay and Ray come in right away and blow up their minor leagues? Has that happened?...
Blow it up? Far as I know nobody ever has batted 1000. It’s a game of failure at any level. 3 out of 10 and you’re in the hall of fame. Guys in college throw 95+ so do guys in the minor leagues. If you have some success in the minors I think it would also translate in the majors. They just don’t get the opportunity.
Yeah, but if they were so great to play at the major level right away, they'd be killing it in the minors. I take it they're not...
Both are doing great, and are still very young. Their time to the majors will be shorter by the number of years they played here.
This is just a small sample of what I’m talking about. Ray hit 28 HRs last year in the minors. Certainly that translates into he deserves a chance but it depends on the organization. If they got a stud on the major league team, you’re stuck. Imagine being a SS in the Os organization when Ripken was there. It didn’t matter if Cal’s stats were down, nobody was taking him out.
Brendan has posted sub 2.0 ERA in two minor league seasons. His strikeout #s are good. I’ll mention the Os again because that’s who I follow. They have had starting pitchers like Jimenez, Cobb, Cashner with ERA’s over 7.0 and 8.0.
Again these guys are probably spending their peak physical years toiling away in the minors when they could be doing as well as some of the guys currently in the bigs.
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