Kentucky fans are sick in the head

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

They may or may not, but that was already happening. Only now they'll be in the spot light if they do.

And there you have it - they are already out to get the Cats anyway LMFAO...

As if, the NCAA has something to gain by having officials treat their cash cow program poorly....(that's UK Bill congrats!) Let's eliminate UK as soon as possible - because we know the arena would really fill up for 2nd weekend games in Memphis featuring UCLA vs Wich St amirite?

LMFAO what a completely out of touch guy.

Good job Bill, in a very brief post you have become poster child for the delusional fan base you represent.

 

[Cue Card]

http://247sports.com/Bolt/Kentucky-fans-trash-referee-John-Higgins-company-on-Facebook-52009045

That program, that coach and especially their fans are the single biggest evil in college basketball. I'd sign up for KU never winning a title again if that meant a death penalty for sUcKs. Attacking a man's personal business is just step one for those lunatics. How long until they start physically assaulting people they hold responsible for their chokes in March , or maybe something even worse? The Big Blew Nation is truly the worst fanbase in all of sports. They mistake lunacy for passion and support

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...-fans-following-loss-north-carolina-tar-heels

NCAA referee John Higgins met with law enforcement for more than two hours Tuesday after Kentucky fans sent death threats, repeatedly called his company's office and home -- despite an unlisted number -- and posted a barrage of false messages about his business on the company's Facebook page, sources told ESPN.

That is the very definition of sick in the head.

 

[Bill Derington]

And there you have it - they are already out to get the Cats anyway LMFAO...

As if, the NCAA has something to gain by having officials treat their cash cow program poorly....(that's UK Bill congrats!) Let's eliminate UK as soon as possible - because we know the arena would really fill up for 2nd weekend games in Memphis featuring UCLA vs Wich St amirite?

LMFAO what a completely out of touch guy.

Good job Bill, in a very brief post you have become poster child for the delusional fan base you represent.

My post had nothing to do with the NCAA Hopgood, the poster wrote that refs were a tight fraternity amd UK might feel the wraith.
I correctly stated they already have, and it may or may not continue.

If you watched that game Sunday you saw how bad the officiating toward UK was in the first half, for some reason or another that is status quo when Higgins calls UK games in the tourney.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

My post had nothing to do with the NCAA Hopgood, the poster wrote that refs were a tight fraternity amd UK might feel the wraith.
I correctly stated they already have, and it may or may not continue.

If you watched that game Sunday you saw how bad the officiating toward UK was in the first half, for some reason or another that is status quo when Higgins calls UK games in the tourney.

You seem to have a hard on for me.

You claim a conspiracy yet you can't connect dots between the relationship between refs and the NCAA.

If you can't handle people responding to your posts don't post. I respond to most everybody that posts on the site, you are not special. Sounds like you got the hard on for me. I don't blame you I am sexy.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

If you watched that game Sunday you saw how bad the officiating toward UK was in the first half, for some reason or another that is status quo when Higgins calls UK games in the tourney.

The refs are out to get us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You deserve to be laughed at for the perspective Bill.

For the record at no point in this thread have I shared an opinion on how the game was officiated - I merely weighed in on the humiliating actions that UK fans have apparently engaged in with the guy's personal life after the game.

 

[zipp]

Seth Greenberg was on Sirius 84 talking about how Higgins and Cal have history that dates back before e even screwed us against UConn in the championship game...

Russdiculous asks why you needed the referee's help to beat UConn that year?

"Elite program," my a$$...

 

[shadow force]

I would also like to add that Higgins has officiated every final four since 2010 besides one. 2012.

So...you are saying conspiracy against Uk?

 

[KerryRhodes]

How many threads on here that included personal information about referees and the suggestion that Louisville fans collectively try to ruin - or do harm - to the guy?

NONE !

And if i ever saw one, that poster will be on ignore for life, and i would demand the mods take it down and ban him.

I dont care if the ref/refs called 100 fouls against UofL, and zero on their opponent.

Yes , i think the refs were favoring uofk in the 13-14 games, and i criticized them for it.
It ended right there-criticism. Never once thought about publicizing their private information, and to encourage others to inundate them with threats, negative ratings.

Is just highly pathetic. ITS A FREAKIN GAME............................

This isnt even the first time. Someone published a refs phone number after RHN lost to Tennessee.

Notes :

RHN stands for Ref Hater Nation

uofk has never lost a game. Its ALWAYS the refs fault.

The moon landing was faked.

 

[BPGhost]

Not making excuses, but don't make excuses for a horribly called first half by a ref that has consistently been horrible when calling UK games in the tourney.

Oswald was in the book depository.

"I'm not making excuses (insert excuse)" - bill.

"I'm not making excuses because I've not weighed in on the game because I don't give a crap" - me.

 

[BPGhost]

Don't hold back next time. Let me know how you really feel.

I don't condone death threats but I'm not gonna tell someone how to live their life. I did however give his business a 1* rating and had I known it would have made the news I would have added a snarky comment with it.

I wouldn't have expected anything other than that from someone of your caliber.

 

[KerryRhodes]

I did however give his business a 1* rating and had I known it would have made the news I would have added a snarky comment with it.

 

[zipp]

On reflection, I consider the LPT apologists in this thread to be a pretty good sample of slapd!cks generally on this subject.

Thanks, and you're now free to go.

"Elite program," my a$$...

 

[BPGhost]

They may or may not, but that was already happening. Only now they'll be in the spot light if they do.

Here's an idea, if a referee calls a sh*tty tourney game then hold them accountable.

Gee bill, your suggestion might have more weight if there ever was a corresponding feeling of giving credit for when an official called a good game. That never happens with the yuts though - they either overcome the crappy officials with their collection of D-leaguers or, the officials were simply too much to overcome.

 

[Bill Derington]

You claim a conspiracy yet you can't connect dots between the relationship between refs and the NCAA.

If you can't handle people responding to your posts don't post. I respond to most everybody that posts on the site, you are not special. Sounds like you got the hard on for me. I don't blame you I am sexy.

I didn't claim a conspiracy, its a fact when John Higgins refs a UK game in the tourney there is going to be bad calls against UK. I never claimed the NCAA was involved, simply that for some reason or another John Higgins continually makes clearly obvious bad calls when UK is involved.

 

[Bill Derington]

Gee bill, your suggestion might have more weight if there ever was a corresponding feeling of giving credit for when an official called a good game. That never happens with the yuts though - they either overcome the crappy officials with their collection of D-leaguers or, the officials were simply too much to overcome.

Look, bad calls happen, refs have bad games, but when the same ref continually has "bad" games against the same team in the tourney fans get frustrated when he isn't held accountable.

The frustration isn't about one game, Higgins was the ref in the Uconn title game, he was the ref in the Wisconsin game that was looking directly at the shot clock.

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

I didn't claim a conspiracy, its a fact when John Higgins refs a UK game in the tourney there is going to be bad calls against UK. I never claimed the NCAA was involved, simply that for some reason or another John Higgins continually makes clearly obvious bad calls when UK is involved.

A UK fan in this thread pointed out Higgins has officiated all but once Final Four since 2010 – meaning he is deemed to be one of the top officials in the game.


Officials get them wrong quite a bit, no doubt. I think UK fans have a really hard time adjusting to officiating that is closer to being centrist because they are beneficiaries of home cooking like almost none other throughout the season.


Their fans would have difficulty identifying good vs bad calls because they don’t know what a good call is – because at least half the games UK plays (them home ones) they receive incredibly good treatment.

 

[Bill Derington]

A UK fan in this thread pointed out Higgins has officiated all but once Final Four since 2010 – meaning he is deemed to be one of the top officials in the game.


Officials get them wrong quite a bit, no doubt. I think UK fans have a really hard time adjusting to officiating that is closer to being centrist because they are beneficiaries of home cooking like almost none other throughout the season.


Their fans would have difficulty identifying good vs bad calls because they don’t know what a good call is – because at least half the games UK plays (them home ones) they receive incredibly good treatment.

Beneficiaries of home cooking like none other? Thats laughable.

There was nothing centrist about that first half, centrist would've been awesome!

Which final four did he not call in that time period, and who won?

 

[Ipartiedwithhopgood]

It is to a point of comical watching UK home games. Agreed. Common ground Bill, we found it. Good thing visiting team’s fans are nothing like your fan base – the FBI would be super busy bub

 

[wreckcard#22]

The goal tending was a bad call, but if you call that then you've got to call the same thing on Maye when he went to dunk and the ball bounced up, and he was holding the rim while it was above the cylinder.

The Bam over the back was a weak call, especially since Meeks was riding people on the other end.

The blown out of bounds call when Berry twisted his ankle and lost the ball.

The Willis call wasn't made until UK recovered the ball, and appeared to have a fast break.

Fox was hammered on the last play of the half.

Both fouls on Fox were sketchy, the block call was a charge, he beat White to the spot, and White lowered his shoulder.

Referee's have bad games, but Higgins has a history of having bad games when UK is involved, and the first half was atrocious even to an impartial viewer.

Higgins has called every final 4 but one since 2010, he didn't ref the 2012 final 4, which UK won?

well, let's look at those plays from a different perspective and maybe (doubtful) you can see why the judgment call was made as it was.

Bam put his L arm on Meeks, it was late but there, and with no size advantage it's an easy call to make...now if say a guard has a very low blockout position against Meeks (as was the case on the call you are referring to) and Meeks reaches over without contact it's understandable why overtheback was not called.

Holding onto the rim is not the same moving the rim in a dunk, the ball rattled but did not leave the cylinder so not goaltending...the ball did seem off the rim but part of it could have been interpreted in the speed of the game to be in the cylinder.

Fox drove into a defender who jumped straight up with chest on chest contact, any over reach was due to being pushed back by Fox on the drive, I thought that was a good no call.

Willis late call was still the right call, ball came loose because he hit an arm...the timing and your recovery have no bearing on the call.

Fox was pressing White in mid court and initiated contact on both occasions, he probably thought he could take advantage of his athletic advantage and it backfired, you know that block/charge fouls are the hardest to call..if it's in the open court/non fast break and Fox jumps in late a block will be the call every time (keep in mind that UNC had a guard with 2 fouls and that's why White was playing to begin with).

There have been far more atrocious calls in college basketball, and this conspiracy theory is tired and juvenile.

 

[Bill Derington]

well, let's look at those plays from a different perspective and maybe (doubtful) you can see why the judgment call was made as it was.

Bam put his L arm on Meeks, it was late but there, and with no size advantage it's an easy call to make...now if say a guard has a very low blockout position against Meeks (as was the case on the call you are referring to) and Meeks reaches over without contact it's understandable why overtheback was not called.

Holding onto the rim is not the same moving the rim in a dunk, the ball rattled but did not leave the cylinder so not goaltending...the ball did seem off the rim but part of it could have been interpreted in the speed of the game to be in the cylinder.

Fox drove into a defender who jumped straight up with chest on chest contact, any over reach was due to being pushed back by Fox on the drive, I thought that was a good no call.

Willis late call was still the right call, ball came loose because he hit an arm...the timing and your recovery have no bearing on the call.

Fox was pressing White in mid court and initiated contact on both occasions, he probably thought he could take advantage of his athletic advantage and it backfired, you know that block/charge fouls are the hardest to call..if it's in the open court/non fast break and Fox jumps in late a block will be the call every time (keep in mind that UNC had a guard with 2 fouls and that's why White was playing to begin with).

There have been far more atrocious calls in college basketball, and this conspiracy theory is tired and juvenile.

Bam put his arm on Meeks on the way down, because as Meeks did the whole gamehe slid under him while Bam was jumping, it was a weak call. Meeks rode Briscoe, he didn't just reach over him which I agree isn't an over the back.

Bam's hand was UNDER the cylinder of the rim, it was an awful call. I agree that Maye shouldn't have been called for basket interference, but if you call that weak crap on Bam then you have to call that, because it's obvious the ref was going by the letter of the rule.

Fox didn't initiate contact on the blocking call, he beat White to the spot and got run over. The reach in call was sketchy but understandable. White was playing because Berry was hurt and in the locker room.

When the ref blows the whistle after UK recovers well after the foul he's calling occured then timing has everything to do with it, which is why Higgins had to explain to the other ref what the hell he was calling.

If you have to explain what you think a ref saw when calling the game, then it's piss poor officiated game.

 

[FURYREVENGE4]

Those idiots are now throwing Mattie Jones under the bus saying he told them to do it .. He even responded saying how is he responsible yea right Matt. Those dumb fans listen to his show and read that site like a cult. He says do this and they take it too another level. As with this one death threats only BBN.

 

[Cue Card]

Bam put his arm on Meeks on the way down, because as Meeks did the whole gamehe slid under him while Bam was jumping, it was a weak call. Meeks rode Briscoe, he didn't just reach over him which I agree isn't an over the back.

Bam's hand was UNDER the cylinder of the rim, it was an awful call. I agree that Maye shouldn't have been called for basket interference, but if you call that weak crap on Bam then you have to call that, because it's obvious the ref was going by the letter of the rule.

Fox didn't initiate contact on the blocking call, he beat White to the spot and got run over. The reach in call was sketchy but understandable. White was playing because Berry was hurt and in the locker room.

When the ref blows the whistle after UK recovers well after the foul he's calling occured then timing has everything to do with it, which is why Higgins had to explain to the other ref what the hell he was calling.

If you have to explain what you think a ref saw when calling the game, then it's piss poor officiated game.

Blue tears taste delicious.

 

[teamcanada]

The goal tending was a bad call, but if you call that then you've got to call the same thing on Maye when he went to dunk and the ball bounced up, and he was holding the rim while it was above the cylinder.

The Bam over the back was a weak call, especially since Meeks was riding people on the other end.

The blown out of bounds call when Berry twisted his ankle and lost the ball.

The Willis call wasn't made until UK recovered the ball, and appeared to have a fast break.

Fox was hammered on the last play of the half.

Both fouls on Fox were sketchy, the block call was a charge, he beat White to the spot, and White lowered his shoulder.

Referee's have bad games, but Higgins has a history of having bad games when UK is involved, and the first half was atrocious even to an impartial viewer.

Higgins has called every final 4 but one since 2010, he didn't ref the 2012 final 4, which UK won?

Bam put his arm on Meeks on the way down, because as Meeks did the whole gamehe slid under him while Bam was jumping, it was a weak call. Meeks rode Briscoe, he didn't just reach over him which I agree isn't an over the back.

Bam's hand was UNDER the cylinder of the rim, it was an awful call. I agree that Maye shouldn't have been called for basket interference, but if you call that weak crap on Bam then you have to call that, because it's obvious the ref was going by the letter of the rule.

Fox didn't initiate contact on the blocking call, he beat White to the spot and got run over. The reach in call was sketchy but understandable. White was playing because Berry was hurt and in the locker room.

When the ref blows the whistle after UK recovers well after the foul he's calling occured then timing has everything to do with it, which is why Higgins had to explain to the other ref what the hell he was calling.

If you have to explain what you think a ref saw when calling the game, then it's piss poor officiated game.

I saw the still photo of the goaltending. The ball was on the rim when he touched it. Doesn't matter if his hand was under it. Fox was moving. You jump in front of someone like that it's almost always called a charge. Why do that 30 feet from the basket anyway? Willis grabbed the guys arm it's a foul.

 

[Bill Derington]

I saw the still photo of the goaltending. The ball was on the rim when he touched it. Doesn't matter if his hand was under it. Fox was moving. You jump in front of someone like that it's almost always called a charge. Why do that 30 feet from the basket anyway? Willis grabbed the guys arm it's a foul.

The ball wasn't on the rim, fox had position and White lowered his shoulder it doesn't matter if Fox was moving or not. Willis and Berry were going for a loose ball, the whistle wasn't blown until AFTER UK had the ball.

UK caught a horrible whistle in the first half or lack there of.

 

[geo_joe]

Well, hell, let's give them an asterisk for the season. It has worked in the past with a little help from Sagarin. In 50 years they can build a trophy case and slap a damn-near look alike trophy in it and no uk fans will be any wiser.

 

[wreckcard#22]

Bam put his arm on Meeks on the way down, because as Meeks did the whole gamehe slid under him while Bam was jumping, it was a weak call. Meeks rode Briscoe, he didn't just reach over him which I agree isn't an over the back.

Bam's hand was UNDER the cylinder of the rim, it was an awful call. I agree that Maye shouldn't have been called for basket interference, but if you call that weak crap on Bam then you have to call that, because it's obvious the ref was going by the letter of the rule.

Fox didn't initiate contact on the blocking call, he beat White to the spot and got run over. The reach in call was sketchy but understandable. White was playing because Berry was hurt and in the locker room.

When the ref blows the whistle after UK recovers well after the foul he's calling occured then timing has everything to do with it, which is why Higgins had to explain to the other ref what the hell he was calling.

If you have to explain what you think a ref saw when calling the game, then it's piss poor officiated game.

White is not the primary backup guard for UNC, that guy had 2 fouls and was on the bench...Berry was indeed getting treatment for his ankle.

I normally don't need to explain what I think the ref saw...but for some reason there is a group of fans that are taking this issue to levels not previously seen in college basketball, so I thought I'd give it a try. You almost had it right, but instead of piss poor officiating; should be piss poor sportsmanship. If I were a UK fan, I'd be spending my time trying to diffuse the issue instead of justifying it with your conspiracy nonsense. Actually, if I were a UK fan I'd stop being a UK fan...that's a kind of association that's rather embarrassing.

 

[Bill Derington]

White is not the primary backup guard for UNC, that guy had 2 fouls and was on the bench...Berry was indeed getting treatment for his ankle.

I normally don't need to explain what I think the ref saw...but for some reason there is a group of fans that are taking this issue to levels not previously seen in college basketball, so I thought I'd give it a try. You almost had it right, but instead of piss poor officiating; should be piss poor sportsmanship. If I were a UK fan, I'd be spending my time trying to diffuse the issue instead of justifying it with your conspiracy nonsense. Actually, if I were a UK fan I'd stop being a UK fan...that's a kind of association that's rather embarrassing.

The poor officiating in the NCAA is under a white hot light now, because it was piss poor throughout the tourney capped off by a ridiculously one sided piss poor job in the first half of UK/UNC.

UNC had one player in foul trouble, UK had 4 in the half.

As far as who I root for all I'm going to say is glass houses. This will be old news in a week, some things don't just make good storylines.

 

[BPGhost]

The poor officiating in the NCAA is under a white hot light now, because it was piss poor throughout the tourney capped off by a ridiculously one sided piss poor job in the first half of UK/UNC.

False.

The only thing under a "white hot light" is the hypocrisy, lack of perspective and, ridiculous lengths the yut fan base will go to to try and rationalization it's complete classless behavior.

 

[JohnCard28]

The ball wasn't on the rim, fox had position and White lowered his shoulder it doesn't matter if Fox was moving or not. Willis and Berry were going for a loose ball, the whistle wasn't blown until AFTER UK had the ball.

UK caught a horrible whistle in the first half or lack there of.

Bill, this conspiracy theory of yours is getting deeper. I even think your boy, Derik Willis, is in on this with Higgins, "I definitely had two stupid fouls. I wasn't thinking."

 

[Mike'sMarbles]

False.

The only thing under a "white hot light" is the hypocrisy, lack of perspective and, ridiculous lengths the yut fan base will go to to try and rationalization it's complete classless behavior.

This is the truth. The only story getting circulated outside the Big Blue bubble is UK fans trying to hurt the side business of a referee, calling his unlisted home phone number, and the death threats. UK fans can spin all the false narratives they want but it's not going to help their perception in the real world. If anything it hurts their image a little bit more.

 

[zipp]

Those idiots are now throwing Mattie Jones under the bus saying he told them to do it .. He even responded saying how is he responsible yea right Matt. Those dumb fans listen to his show and read that site like a cult. He says do this and they take it too another level. As with this one death threats only BBN.

Maddie's done his best to dummy-down LPT Nation, and he's put every ounce of his Middlesboro, KY intellect into the effort. Damn shame that can backfire on him.

"Elite program," my a$$...

 

[teamcanada]

The ball wasn't on the rim, fox had position and White lowered his shoulder it doesn't matter if Fox was moving or not. Willis and Berry were going for a loose ball, the whistle wasn't blown until AFTER UK had the ball.

UK caught a horrible whistle in the first half or lack there of.

The ball was absolutely sitting on the rim when the Kentucky guy touched it. You can't move in front of someone 30 foot from the basket. Has UK ever lost a game where the refs didn't screw them?

 

[CardsFirst]

More crybaby crap. Head back over to raftards and post how funny you think the death threats and attempts to ruin the guy's business are some more you dumb dick.

Don't hold back next time. Let me know how you really feel.

I don't condone death threats but I'm not gonna tell someone how to live their life. I did however give his business a 1* rating and had I known it would have made the news I would have added a snarky comment with it.

If you haven't done business with him your as deranged as the rest of you losers. Good god get a life. Simply pathetic.

 

[Wordless65]

I really don't understand where they think the first half cost them the game. Hawkins came in and scored about as good or better than Monk would have scoring 10 pts. They actually got better on defense with him in the game.

Humphries came in and hit shots away from the basket and grabbed as many or more rebounds than Bam would have. North Carolina had more players with 2 fouls and Kentucky was in the bonus 5 minutes before Carolina in the first half and the ref cost them the game?

Being up 5 with 5 to go and you give up a 12-0 run and the ref cost you the game? Cal did a great job of diverting his ineptness from him as usual and his cult bought into it again.

 

[JohnKBA]

This whole fiasco is embarrassing.

We led by 5 with 5 to go and couldn't throw it in the ocean for 4 minutes. That's why we lost. Maye hit a huge shot. Sometimes you get one upped. No shame in that.

To all the uk fans taking this to the stupid level - grow up. It's a terrible look and makes us all look bad.

 

[Bill Derington]

False.

The only thing under a "white hot light" is the hypocrisy, lack of perspective and, ridiculous lengths the yut fan base will go to to try and rationalization it's complete classless behavior.

You're right, no one will be paying closer attention or has been talking about how awful the refs have been this tourney.

 

[Bill Derington]

Bill, this conspiracy theory of yours is getting deeper. I even think your boy, Derik Willis, is in on this with Higgins, "I definitely had two stupid fouls. I wasn't thinking."

I'm not sure what you're trying to point out here.

 

[Bill Derington]

The ball was absolutely sitting on the rim when the Kentucky guy touched it. You can't move in front of someone 30 foot from the basket. Has UK ever lost a game where the refs didn't screw them?

I have yet to see a pic where he was touching the ball and it was on the rim.

 

[ciswilldean3215]

The UK starter who fouled out was James Young and he couldn't guard me or you in a wheelchair. His fouling out had ZERO to do with the officiating, and EVERYTHING to do with Luke Hancock making him wear a skirt in the form of the "old mans game." If anyone on here was blaming officiating for our loss they couldn't have been more wrong. One thing is for sure, no UL fan wished death upon his family afterwards.

I seem to recall a UK starter fouling out 5 minutes into the second half in '14, and plenty of people on here blaming the refs.

 

[Bill Derington]

The UK starter who fouled out was James Young and he couldn't guard me or you in a wheelchair. His fouling out had ZERO to do with the officiating, and EVERYTHING to do with Luke Hancock making him wear a skirt in the form of the "old mans game." If anyone on here was blaming officiating for our loss they couldn't have been more wrong. One thing is for sure, no UL fan wished death upon his family afterwards.

Listen, if any U.K. Fan threatened the mans life they need to be charged with a crime.

Hancock was hooking like a big dog in 14, that's why he ended up fouling out.