Just Curious, but with the change of any coordinator, does the...

[glassmanJ]

coach usually adapt or the players? not withstanding promotions from within, but on either side of the ball, when a new coordinator comes in are the players forced to learn a new system and terminology or does the new coach try to adapt? in the former case, you are now trusting kids to learn a new language and play while learning, instead of anticipating and reacting, which means they are thinking. and in the latter case it's only the coach adjusting. seems to me the former case means lots of hiccups until the system comes naturally and without thought. i wonder how much of our issues are simply that the new system is only six months old for all players instead of having seniors knowing whats going on and leading the younger players? could our defensive troubles possibly be more from just learning something new and the resulting confusion from that? consistency makes for great teams and maybe the changeover is just too much to learn that fast and be good

 

[Rollem Cards]

Who knows anymore.

CBP came in here wanting to run the Spread, vs anything he'd ever done before, but we didn't have the "right" people.

Four years later, we're running the "Lamar", and still need people.

It would seem to me, and I'm as much of a P5 coach as anybody else on here , that you have to do what your current players CAN do.

So the coach has to adapt.

OR, he gets labeled a loser, bum, turd, sucky, and then some worse stuff, before he gets "his" people.

 

[beantowncard]

Recruit to your system. If you have one you believe in and with which you’ve been successful, keep it.

 

[CardsFirst]

Recruit to your system. If you have one you believe in and with which you’ve been successful, keep it.

I think Bobby will have more success with Pass. Nothing against LJ but Pass fits Bobby’s system.

 

[bobwest]

I think Bobby will have more success with Pass. Nothing against LJ but Pass fits Bobby’s system.

Agree 100%

 

[BPGhost]

I think Bobby will have more success with Pass. Nothing against LJ but Pass fits Bobby’s system.

Which “system” is that - the one that he ran with Brian Brohm? I ask because he ran a vastly different “system” with Lefors and won 11 games with both.

I don’t understand why petrino won’t take advantage of LJ’s best asset and roll the pocket giving him more run/pass options, throw the 3 & 7 yd slant & mix in some screens - the offense would be unstoppable. Dropping LJ back in the pocket and having him look 15 - 20 yds downfield 100% of the time may do a better job at getting him ready for the next level but, it’s at the expense of wins right now.

 

[CardsFirst]

I think Bobby will have more success with Pass. Nothing against LJ but Pass fits Bobby’s system.

Which “system” is that - the one that he ran with Brian Brohm? I ask because he ran a vastly different “system” with Lefors and won 11 games with both.

I don’t understand why petrino won’t take advantage of LJ’s best asset and roll the pocket giving him more run/pass options, throw the 3 & 7 yd slant & mix in some screens - the offense would be unstoppable. Dropping LJ back in the pocket and having him look 15 - 20 yds downfield 100% of the time may do a better job at getting him ready for the next level but, it’s at the expense of wins right now.

Yes and yes. I guess what I’m saying is he’s fixated on getting LJ to the NFL making him a pocket passer. Where’s as with Pass he’s more naturally fit for that style. LJ isn’t. I guess Lefors or Ragone are more like LJ.

 

[WildCard]

Usually the players must adjust to what the new coordinator brings in. At least some of the time you bring in a new coordinator because what the previous guy was doing did not work very well. Grantham and Sirmon run different things. What Grantham wanted to do (1 gap 3-4) was much more "complicated" than what we are seeing from Sirmon (plain vanilla 4-3). But I think a lot of the problem is we have run out of players who were recruited and developed under ex-CCS intensely physical defensive practice regimens. JMO

Peace

 

[nccardfan]

Usually the players must adjust to what the new coordinator brings in. At least some of the time you bring in a new coordinator because what the previous guy was doing did not work very well. Grantham and Sirmon run different things. What Grantham wanted to do (1 gap 3-4) was much more "complicated" than what we are seeing from Sirmon (plain vanilla 4-3). But I think a lot of the problem is we have run out of players who were recruited and developed under ex-CCS intensely physical defensive practice regimens. JMO

Peace

You may think Sirmon runs the 4-3 but he doesn’t have four lineman so it’s still basically a 3-4, which unless you got a huge nose tackle like a wolfork as a run stopper you going to have problems stopping the run.