Indiana

[fredburgcard]

Was listening to College Sports channel on Sirus Radio this morning. They were discussing IU and the consensus was that the Hoosiers are in the playoffs regardless of what happens at Ohio State next week unless they also lose to Purdue. One commentator said that IU can’t be penalized for having a schedule with only one opponent in the top 40 (OSU).
Well they can be in my opinion because they chickened out of a game at Louisville this season. No one even brought that up.

 

[beantowncard]

Was listening to College Sports channel on Sirus Radio this morning. They were discussing IU and the consensus was that the Hoosiers are in the playoffs regardless of what happens at Ohio State next week unless they also lose to Purdue. One commentator said that IU can’t be penalized for having a schedule with only one opponent in the top 40 (OSU).
Well they can be in my opinion because they chickened out of a game at Louisville this season. No one even brought that up.

Schedule only affects teams like UofL. If you are B1G, it doesn’t matter b

 

[TheRealVille]

Was listening to College Sports channel on Sirus Radio this morning. They were discussing IU and the consensus was that the Hoosiers are in the playoffs regardless of what happens at Ohio State next week unless they also lose to Purdue. One commentator said that IU can’t be penalized for having a schedule with only one opponent in the top 40 (OSU).
Well they can be in my opinion because they chickened out of a game at Louisville this season. No one even brought that up.

Why can't they be penalized ? Makes no sense. Why isn't Army in the playoff? They're undefeated. What if they beat Notre Dame this weekend? Would that get them in?

Logic would say no, even with a win over the Irish. So how could a one loss IU make the playoff?

 

[PushupMan]

Why can't they be penalized ? Makes no sense. Why isn't Army in the playoff? They're undefeated. What if they beat Notre Dame this weekend? Would that get them in?

Logic would say no, even with a win over the Irish. So how could a one loss IU make the playoff?

Army would receive a massive boost with a win over Notre Dame. Army and Boise State would be ranked very close to each other for the G5 autobid spot.

IU is being penalized for their weak schedule, but they are also being rewarded for the multiple 2-TD+ wins over Big Ten teams like Nebraska, UCLA, Maryland, Michigan State, Washington and Northwestern.

 

[fredburgcard]

Army would receive a massive boost with a win over Notre Dame. Army and Boise State would be ranked very close to each other for the G5 autobid spot.

IU is being penalized for their weak schedule, but they are also being rewarded for the multiple 2-TD+ wins over Big Ten teams like Nebraska, UCLA, Maryland, Michigan State, Washington and Northwestern.

There’s a really slim possibility both Tulane/Army and Boise could both get in. The 5 auto bids are to the 5 highest ranked conference champs, not the power 4 champs and 1 group of five champ. For example say Louisville won its next two games but got blown out at UK but still qualified for ACC championship game in a 3 way tie with Clemson and Miami for second spot. They then beat SMU to win ACC. Meanwhile an undefeated AAC champ Army or Tulane and an undefeated MWC champ Boise are ranked above Louisville in the final rankings. They go to playoffs and Louisville stays home.

 

[TheRealVille]

Army would receive a massive boost with a win over Notre Dame. Army and Boise State would be ranked very close to each other for the G5 autobid spot.

IU is being penalized for their weak schedule, but they are also being rewarded for the multiple 2-TD+ wins over Big Ten teams like Nebraska, UCLA, Maryland, Michigan State, Washington and Northwestern.

Maybe Washington but not the others, especially Maryland and Northwestern.

IU is being considered because they're in the Big 10. If they were in the ACC and was undefeated but still ranked behind two other ACC conference teams, they wouldn't have a chance.

It's just IU's bad luck that the usual good teams on their Big 10 schedule are not very good. Forget about Penn State and Oregon. They didn't have to play Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, or Iowa. All bowl teams.

And it was bad timing that they got out of the Louisville game. They desperately needed that game win or loss. Imagine them losing to the Cards then beating OSU and playing Oregon for the Big 10 title. They would definitely be in the playoff even if they lost to Oregon.

But now, If they lose to OSU, they have no big win to counter it.

 

[2330859]

I disagree; any ACC team that is undefeated at this point in the schedule would be included in the BCS. Miami was right there prior to their unexpected loss to GT, and SMU would be “right there” had they not lost so early to BYU, as no one at that time recognized that BYU was as good as they are.

I have been no fan of the rankings over the years, as most of the love affair as been directed to the SEC, and to a bit lesser degree to the BIG. If by chance IU can beat OSU, they will obviously be deserving of their position right behind Oregon. If they lose, they could drop, but still be somewhere around the top 10 depending on how close they keep within the Buckeyes.

I believe Miami, SMU and the winner of the Pitt/Louisville contest will each be rewarded with top Bowl Invitations against formidable SEC/BIG a opponents and a chance to finish high in final AP Rankings if they win.

 

[CardHack]

I don't know that this factors in with the CFP committee, but there is no question that the SMU that looked so meh in the first three weeks with Stone at QB is far different than the one manned by Kevin Jennings.

...and I still don't know how to evaluate IU. They have beaten the brakes off of everybody but Michigan, but this is a Brady Hoke/RichRod level of Michigan. The Ohio State game will provide answers and believe it or not I'm hoping they win out despite scratching us from the schedule.

 

[AnotherCFD]

No way Indiana gets in the playoffs after they get blown out at OSU…nor do they deserve to. They will fall in place of a SEC team and rightfully so.

 

[Louis III]

Normally I would agree, but the SEC still has some beating up on each other to do. Tenn vs UGA. UGA loses they gone. And I am not sleeping on Texas at Ark and A&M at Auburn.

 

[glassmanJ]

No way Indiana gets in the playoffs after they get blown out at OSU…nor do they deserve to. They will fall in place of a SEC team and rightfully so.

not going to happen, will go down to the wire and OSU will start to tighten up under the pressure of possibility losing the game.

 

[nccardfan]

With so many 2 loss teams, not sure if even 1 loss would keep IU out of the playoffs.

 

[earsky]

With so many 2 loss teams, not sure if even 1 loss would keep IU out of the playoffs.

I think they'll need to give quite a good account of themselves and perhaps you're right.

 

[TheRealVille]

With so many 2 loss teams, not sure if even 1 loss would keep IU out of the playoffs.

No way IU gets in if they lose to OSU. They would have zero wins over a top 35 rated team. Maybe Michigan which IU only beat by 2.

I suppose if they lose 35 to 34 to OSU, some committee members would consider them?

 

[2330859]

Watch the spread; Vegas will provide some insight as to just how well respected this Hoosier football team is to those paid to know. Just my opinion, but an IU win along with SMU finishing with a clean sweep will help UL and so many other D1 teams obtain respect going forward. For too long, teams like Alabama, Michigan, OSU, Texas and Oregon receive automatic advantage for BCS consideration. The more teams like IU break the barrier, the better chances for UL and others to join in getting more respect in the polls that determine BCS qualification.

Despite our 3 losses; I will not be surprised that if we finish the rest of this regular season undefeated …….our Bowl invitation will be a Major one.

 

[Guardman]

If Cards finish undefeated STRONG, AND Miami, Clemson finish STRONG, Cards will get a great bowl, of the ones left

 

[ColdCard]

If IU losses to tOSU and they still make the playoffs every school should start refusing to play P5 opponets in the regular season. Their schedule is a joke.

 

[TheRealVille]

If IU losses to tOSU and they still make the playoffs every school should start refusing to play P5 opponets in the regular season. Their schedule is a joke.

Yeah, but it's only their non conference schedule that is a joke. That's just 3 games. In a big super conference like the Big 10 is now, a team can have a joke non conference schedule and still have a tough overall schedule.

When the conference schedule came out for IU they had newcomers like UCLA and Washington, along with OSU and Michigan. That cannot be called a joke schedule. IU couldn't help these normal powers would all have an off season.

Now I agree they probably shouldn't make the playoff if they lose to OSU, but it wasn't because their schedule was a joke, it was just an unlucky circumstance this season.

 

[ColdCard]

Yeah, but it's only their non conference schedule that is a joke. That's just 3 games. In a big super conference like the Big 10 is now, a team can have a joke non conference schedule and still have a tough overall schedule.

When the conference schedule came out for IU they had newcomers like UCLA and Washington, along with OSU and Michigan. That cannot be called a joke schedule. IU couldn't help these normal powers would all have an off season.

Now I agree they probably shouldn't make the playoff if they lose to OSU, but it wasn't because their schedule was a joke, it was just an unlucky circumstance this season.

Fair enough about the down years but I do think every P5 team should play another P5 team in non-conference or a respectable Independent.

 

[nccardfan]

Lets revisit this. Look, it's not like IU is taking a spot from us. Might have thought so at one time but not now. IU took advantage of a situation that now looks brilliant. Maybe if our AD had that foresight. Looking back, IU might have done us a favor. Can anyone with certainty say we would have beat IU or would Brohm have laid another turd? Hope not but wouldn't bet my house on it. Instead of 6-4, we could be 5-5 right now needing a win against Pitt and the kitties to get to 7-5. Might still get there but I'm hoping for 8-4.

 

[TheRealVille]

Fair enough about the down years but I do think every P5 team should play another P5 team in non-conference or a respectable Independent.

I think the thinking at IU was they were going to have a very difficult conference schedule with the above mentioned teams, so they wanted a fast start and playing a ranked non conference team so early in the schedule wasn't going to help that, so they canceled.

Of course in retrospect, that wasn't the right thing to do because there's no doubt they would have probably beaten Louisville, and those tough conference teams happened to be not so tough.

Which after Saturday, Louisville can be included as a not so tough opponent and beating the Cards would not have helped them get in if they lose to OSU.

 

[Rollem Cards]

This team, early season or late season, wants no part of IU.

if they hadn’t backed out we would have known what we know now a lot sooner.

 

[nccardfan]

This team, early season or late season, wants no part of IU.

if they hadn’t backed out we would have known what we know now a lot sooner.

We might have known based on how the season ended up last year and may not have realized it. I argued and argued with friends that Jeff coming home to Louisville would be different than his "win some big games, lose some that you shouldn't" tendencies. Looks like I'm the one who's been wrong. Maybe having local ties and history doesn't mean a thing. You either can coach or you can't...

Can you tell I'm frustrated....

 

[TheRealVille]

We might have known based on how the season ended up last year and may not have realized it. I argued and argued with friends that Jeff coming home to Louisville would be different than his "win some big games, lose some that you shouldn't" tendencies. Looks like I'm the one who's been wrong. Maybe having local ties and history doesn't mean a thing. You either can coach or you can't...

Can you tell I'm frustrated....

You and me both. It's incredible to me that Brohm continues to get upset by inferior teams the game after he defeats a superior team. It can't be coincidence.

I believe it's him concentrating more as a OC during the game than he is a HC. He knows his history of losing these games, yet he apparently hasn't learned anything from it, and I believe it's because he's looking at it as a OC and how he will win this time because of successful play calling.

The Stanford game is a perfect example of a HC not being the HC during the game. Most of his energy was calling the plays and arguing about those called plays. It's a tendency that now can't be ignored and will have to be remedied soon if he's going to succeed here.