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I’m glad we refuse to suck for long

That's not where we're headed. Down $40 million in Year Two A.J. (After Jurich)...

Run a clean program and that doesn’t happen. Donors will return once they are confident in the integrity of the programs they are donating to.
 
Run a clean program and that doesn’t happen. Donors will return once they are confident in the integrity of the programs they are donating to.
That's an excuse. These clowns in charge are paid to run things now and run them well...
 
That's an excuse. These clowns in charge are paid to run things now and run them well...

It’s a pretty good excuse. Not sure what the exact timeframe to turn things around is, but it ain’t yet. Keep up your great works of fiction though and keep “bagging those likes”!!!
 
It’s a pretty good excuse. Not sure what the exact timeframe to turn things around is, but it ain’t yet. Keep up your great works of fiction though and keep “bagging those likes”!!!
Time's up. No one's giving U of L a break because they think the clowns inherited a bad situation. They're in this mess on their own and largely of their own doing...
 
Time's up. No one's giving U of L a break because they think the clowns inherited a bad situation. They're in this mess on their own and largely of their own doing...

The only true thing you wrote is that they “inherited a bad situation “.
 
I'm with the other poster who changed their view over time as more evidence became available. I was willing to give Petrino another shot next year because of his past success and the great back-to-back recruiting classes. But after the Georgia Tech game, and as the season continued, it because evident to me that Petrino had lost the team. Not only that, but the player decommits/transfers seriously jeopardized the future. And week after week, the team came out and played with less effort than the week before.

I just didn't see any hope for Petrino turning this around. Sometimes change is the only answer, and I believe this turned into one of those times. I think we'd all prefer it if Petrino could have been the answer to keep us competitive and hope/dream for moving to the next level but it just didn't pan out. I wish him well in his highly compensated future.

I'm thankful to Jurich for his achievements of getting us to the Big East and the P5. He built our program from playing on a carpet at the Kentucky State Fair and getting outdrawn by Trinity-St. X into a program that came within a field goal by Rutgers of playing for the MNC.

We are in dark days right now but the long term future is bright.

I know our fanbase is going to remain fractured until we start winning again, that's just the nature of the beast. I hope we look back on this day in 2 years as a turning point to get back on track for Howard's dream and promise.
 
No you don’t want him to succeed. You would rather be right than for Vince and UofL to be successful.
I want U of L to be successful. I couldn't care less about "Vince". They're two separate entities thankfully.

You don't know me too well...
 
WTF is wrong with you? Bad mouthing our new coach. If you're NOT a UofL fan then get off this damn board!!!
Yet another fan card check. :rolleyes:

I'll see you at Chris Mack's radio show tonite, S&SC, 7 pm...
 
Yet another fan card check. :rolleyes:

I'll see you at Chris Mack's radio show tonite, S&SC, 7 pm...
Zipp, you have to understand that your Card loyalty will continue to be questioned as long as you remain constantly such a glass half empty guy. Fans can question their coaches, their AD, their BOT but still be very supportive of their team/school. But if you are constantly and consistently a negative Nellie towards your program it’s hard to consider you a true fan.
 
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Zipp, you have to understand that your Card loyalty will continue to be questioned as long as you remain constantly such a glass half empty guy. Fans can question their coaches, their AD, their BOT but still be very supportive of their team/school. But if you are constantly and consistently a negative Nellie towards your program it’s hard to consider you a true fan.
I appreciate the perspective, I really do. But there are many people on one side of the boat here and an even larger number who are silent passengers. If one or two guys wanna sit on the OTHER side, that should be OK without the clown show apologists wanting to form a lynch mob.

Hell, there should be appreciation for opposing POVs if yours is planted in bedrock. Be confident in your position if you have a lotta friends there. That ain't what motivates me... Being right often means being alone.
 
Being right often means being alone.
Hey Zipp - could you climb down off of the cross? We need the wood.

Looking forward to hearing you ask CCM about why he decided to become dirty and take the adidas money at his show...
 
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Hey Zipp - could you climb down off of the cross? We need the wood.

Looking forward to hearing you ask CCM about why he decided to become dirty and take the adidas money at his show...
Mack had nothing to do with taking adidas money. But he sure as hell benefits from it.

And some days, this place is my 'cross'... ;)
 
I appreciate the perspective, I really do. But there are many people on one side of the boat here and an even larger number who are silent passengers. If one or two guys wanna sit on the OTHER side, that should be OK without the clown show apologists wanting to form a lynch mob.

Hell, there should be appreciation for opposing POVs if yours is planted in bedrock. Be confident in your position if you have a lotta friends there. That ain't what motivates me... Being right often means being alone.
There is plenty of room for opposing viewpoints on this board and I think they should be welcomed without the poster being personally attacked. I really hate when two fans of any program start savaging each other. But, that was not the point of my post. My point was that fans, regardless of their viewpoint about specific issues, still love and support their program. They don’t root against their team, they do not wish misfortune on their team and they don’t constantly harp on reasons why their team is doomed to failure. I think you see yourself as someone who brings logic and fact-based viewpoints to the discussion and that is all well and good. But, when that logic and those facts are repeatedly presented to the exclusion of any perceived good will.... well it can become tiresome and seen as rooting against your program. If you’re feeling lonely because you are always right, maybe you should seek ways to support your team and program without being on the offensive against them so often. Peace.
 
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Mack had nothing to do with taking adidas money. But he sure as hell benefits from it.

And some days, this place is my 'cross'... ;)

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Mack knows he's implicated for taking adidas money. Yeah, that's squeaky clean alright...

o_O
 
Zipp, you have to understand that your Card loyalty will continue to be questioned as long as you remain constantly such a glass half empty guy. Fans can question their coaches, their AD, their BOT but still be very supportive of their team/school. But if you are constantly and consistently a negative Nellie towards your program it’s hard to consider you a true fan.
I appreciate the perspective, I really do. But there are many people on one side of the boat here and an even larger number who are silent passengers. If one or two guys wanna sit on the OTHER side, that should be OK without the clown show apologists wanting to form a lynch mob.

Hell, there should be appreciation for opposing POVs if yours is planted in bedrock. Be confident in your position if you have a lotta friends there. That ain't what motivates me... Being right often means being alone.

Many people on this board have opposing POV, different opinions, but only you are negative about every single part of the University. You have an objection about every single thing. You’re a sky is falling kind of guy I get it. I also think that you love to be the naysayer for whatever reason.

You just cannot bring yourself to admit that the last administration had anything to do with where we are today. Vince has done nothing and I mean nothing to indicate he’s been anything but loyal to UofL. Every time he makes what most everyone sees as a good decision you still have to up the ante. Hard to hit a moving target.

I have zero issues with you questioning where the money will come from. But to continue to act as though we’re in a crisis created by the new administration is nothing more than a homer to the previous administration. Questions whether your loyal to those guys or the University.

I appreciate what TJ and Ramsey did for this program, but they gave the wrong individual a reason to send them on there way. Ramsey did some damage in his last couple of years. TJ we all know was gone for political reasons. But this happens everyday in business. So the average person moves on until given a reason to question the next administration.

Mack had nothing to do with what occurred nor did Vince. They’re here to clean it up. The new football HC will have had nothing to do with it.

Your beef should be with the BOT and the governor, not the guys cleaning the mess up.

But I’m guessing you’re one of those guys that knows more than anyone else. So you’ll continue to be miserable, which is your right.

Sadly you have good points, which I enjoy reading, but lately it’s surrounded by so much noise those points are missed by many. Life is improving around UofL athletics, because of the foundation left by the previous administration. I’ve chosen to focus on the good things they did and the great things to come with new administrations perspectives and energy. Which is always good for any organization from time to time.

I didn’t mention Pitino because his hiring practices cost this University dearly.
 
Many people on this board have opposing POV, different opinions, but only you are negative about every single part of the University...
Sorry, you probably wrote this mostly for me, but I stopped reading at this point. You either don't know me or you're intentionally mis-characterizing me, i.e., "every single part".

Try again, and I promise to read it as long as it's not bull$hit...
 
Many people on this board have opposing POV, different opinions, but only you are negative about every single part of the University...
Sorry, you probably wrote this mostly for me, but I stopped reading at this point. You either don't know me or you're intentionally mis-characterizing me, i.e., "every single part".

Try again, and I promise to read it as long as it's not bull$hit...

Don’t have to you write another word. The question has been answered. You’re one of those guys that always has to be right. Sad
 
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So why are large-market pro franchises consistently more successful than smaller markets? Exceptions happen in a given year and sport, but they're never sustained.

You have the cause-and-effect backward...
Pro franchises are very different from college sports. However, even there winning brings dollars. The most valuable pro football franchises are Dallas and New England. Also among the winningest. New York, Chicago, LA, Philadelphia and Houston are all much bigger markets, but have lower values, and generally win less. Green Bay, Wisconsin is the smallest by far, but is the proud owner of more NFL titles than anyone, and is more valuable than over half the NFL franchises. I believe it is you who have cause and effect backwards, even as you take the debate into pro sports, which was not the original topic.
 
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