What if CBP on the front end gave him a release and then ten other defensive players wanted to transfer to MSU. Would he still be a prick if he said no ?
Coach P bars Wiggins from 5 schools
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Nope. Not at all. This young man got his degree from UofL. He did nothing wrong. He should be allowed to leave the program after getting his degree and go wherever he wants to go. It's only a game, and he did his part by earning a degree. Now if this young man left the program on different terms, then I could understand the restrictions. In this case, I don't agree with the restrictions.
Have the other 10 players in question graduated with a degree? If so then I would wish them the best. It's my opinion people are losing sight of the real prize here. It's the degree IMO. Not the right to play football.
Cue, I see it just the opposite. If he has the degree, there is no issue...Wiggins can leave immediately and go wherever he wants. Doesn't matter what Petrino thinks or wants.
It's ONLY an issue if Petrino can block his transfer legitimately, i.e., if Wiggins doesn't have the degree. Then, we can debate should Petrino block it, to where, etc?
Petrino's not conditionally a "prick". He either is or isn't based on his character, not the rule or whether it applies...
It's my understanding Wiggins has graduated. That might be incorrect. If it's incorrect, then I spoke out too soon. I'll resist further comments until I know for sure.
Regarding Petrino, It's my very humble opinion he's always been a bit of a prick, but then again, he's a football coach and most all football coaches I've ever known were pricks to some degree. No reason for him to be any different I guess.
I've highlighted the points that we seem to be looking for answers to. If I'm reading this right, a student/athlete is required to have the blessing of the school they are leaving. If that does not happen, they are required to pay their own way for the year following their transfer (basically the original school can deny them the opportunity to go to school under a scholarship for one year.
NCAA Transfer Exceptions and Waivers
The transfer process has a complex mix of rules and regulations that determine when and where athletes can transfer and if and when they can receive a scholarship. If you are being told you will need to sit out, not be able to play right away or not get a scholarship right away, below are some of the exceptions and petitions you can file to get a more favorable outcome.
One-Time Transfer Exception
The one-time transfer exception is the most commonly used exception for transfers from one four-year college to another, especially if the transfer involves two colleges in NCAA Division I or II.
- If transferring to a Division I school, the athlete must play a sport other than football, men’s or women’s basketball, or baseball. The exception is that an athlete can transfers to a Football Championship Subdivision (FCS or I-AA) school and use this exception provided he or she has at least two seasons of competition remaining. In Division II, any sport may use the one-time transfer exception.
- The athlete must not have previously transferred from another four-year school.
- At the time of the transfer, the athlete would have been academically eligible at the previous school; and
- If transferring from an NCAA or NAIA school, the athlete’s previous school states in writing that they have no objection to the athlete using the one-time transfer exception.
Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.
- The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
- The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
- The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
- The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
Graduate Transfer Waiver
The graduate transfer waiver is now typically used by athletes who have previous transferred once before and so cannot use the one-time transfer exception (even as a graduate student).
A letter from the previous school saying it does not object to the student-athlete being eligible;
Documentation that the student-athlete has been accepted into a specific graduate degree program;
Documentation about whether that degree program is offered by the previous school;
A student-athlete statement including the reasons for the transfer; and
A statement from the previous institution about the student-athlete’s status on the team.
Generally the heart of the waiver is the three middle bullets. The NCAA wants to see that the student-athlete transferred in order to continue his or her academic career by pursuing a graduate degree not offered at the previous school.
SOOOOOOOO!!!! It's not nearly as simple as most of us posters thought it was. The original school (UofL in this case) does have some "say" in what will happen in case of a transfer. Yes, some will disagree with this but it appears that UofL (and Bobby Petrino) were acting within the existing NCAA rules. Now you may disagree with the rule(s) but it appears that CBP was not being a "prick" but only protecting HIS university and OUR football program. Maybe he should get some credit for allowing the so called "appeal".
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Naaa, he's a prick and that's OK.
He is a head football coach so he has to be a prick (to a certain degree) to be successful. I can't think of any highly successful head football coaches who were kind gentle people. Maybe they're out there but I can't think of any.
Just because one can do something, doesn't mean they should. A lesson United Airlines is learning in abundance.
The comparison to the United Airlines debacle is not appropriate in this situation. Just my own opinion you understand.
GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
I understand, and I wasn't comparing the situations, only the fact that both reactions were poorly thought out.
He is a pretty good cover corner. His drawbacks are: he is injury prone, talks a ton of trash and isn't physical.
He wouldn't start but tgats because UofL has a senior corner and a corner that will be a 1st rd draft pick.
