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University of Louisville athletics reports $11.2 million deficit, but cash is still flowing

Tim Sullivan, Louisville Courier Journal Published 5:08 p.m. ET Jan. 24, 2020 | Updated 5:11 p.m. ET Jan. 24, 2020

Common accounting practices and a pair of uncommon expenses help explain the $11.2 million deficit the University of Louisville athletics department reported last week to the NCAA.

Though former U of L football coach Bobby Petrino and pizza mogul John Schnatter are being paid off over a period of years, the university is counting the full cost of Petrino’s $14 million buyout and Schnatter’s $9.5 million naming rights settlement in its 2018-19 fiscal year. As a result, U of L has reported its first deficit since a new set of NCAA’s reporting guidelines took effect for the 2004-05 fiscal year.

And while USA TODAY's database showed only 11 larger deficits in more than 3,100 annual reports made by Division I schools through fiscal year 2018, U of L’s issue appears to be more a matter of bookkeeping than budgeting.

Cash continues to flow. Capital improvements continue to be made. Since most of U of L’s obligations to Petrino and Schnatter have yet to come due, their impact on day-to-day operations has been somewhat muted.

What appears on the balance sheet as a big loss is probably not really all that big a deal.

“We have the expense hit,” athletic director Vince Tyra said Friday. “But we don’t have the cash crunch or the implication of it. ... We’re in a really sound spot.”

Based on the figures submitted to the NCAA on Jan. 14, calling U of L’s financial posture “sound” might even qualify as sandbagging. The university’s athletic programs reported record revenues of $139,955,824 in 2018-19, with record ticket sales, record licensing income and a 12% increase in contributions.

Short term, Petrino’s severance from his 2018 firing and Schnatter’s settlement, which followed the 2018 decision to rename Papa John's Cardinal Stadium after the pizza chain founder used a racial slur, were responsible for a lot of red ink. Longer term, U of L’s financial picture is tinted green.

“We’re doing well,” Tyra said. “If you asked our university CFO (Dan Durbin) — I got another note last night — they’re happy and they think we’re doing a great job of cash management. We were in a great position at the end of the calendar year in cash.”

Responding to a request for comment through a university spokesman, Durbin said “the negative bottom line turns positive” by excluding the Petrino and Schnatter payments to be funded by future revenues. He recommended “focus on the word cash,” noting that the department had increased its cash position by about $6.2 million during fiscal year 2019 (to $29.8 million), and expressed gratitude for "its prudent management."

Tyra’s goal is to manage the department prudently enough to reduce the need for university subsidies and to eliminate student fees that have already been cut in half (from $50 per semester to $25).

“It’s always going to be a talking point or a tenuous situation,” Tyra said of subsidies. “I’ve watched the stress and strain of other universities related to what they pull as a subsidy from the university, whether it be student fees or from foundations. ...

“The intention there is to be self-sustainable. I’d like to get down to zero (subsidies).”

Eventually, Tyra would like to replenish endowment funds that were depleted by the buyouts that brought coaches Chris Mack and Scott Satterfield to campus and the financing of former AD Tom Jurich’s settlement. But until Petrino and Schnatter have been paid off, discretionary funds may be scarce.

Because Petrino’s Louisville contract contained no offset provision in the event he obtained another job after being fired, Missouri State’s new head coach is still due another $5.2 million from U of L, payable in quarterly installments through the end of 2021.

The $8 million still owed to Schnatter may eventually be offset by a new naming rights deal, but the university has yet to begin the formal process of requesting proposals to rebrand Cardinal Stadium.

Though Schnatter’s settlement was not announced for more than three months after the 2018-19 fiscal year ended, Durbin said it was recorded as a contingent liability under Generally Accepted Accounting Principles because it had become probable and its value could be estimated. On that point, Tyra said, the university administration was insistent.

“If this was a company that I’ve run in my past versus an athletic department at a public university ... you’d have liabilities that we would take and put on the balance sheet in the year you actually disburse the cash,” Tyra said. “Here, that full liability got expensed right away.”

Basically, it comes down to bookkeeping.

Bottom line: The bills are still getting paid.

Sullivan: If Louisville basketball's banner deserves an asterisk, so does the Astros'

USA TODAY's Steve Berkowitz contributed to this story.

Tim Sullivan: 502-582-4650, tsullivan@courier-journal.com; Twitter: @TimSullivan714. Support strong local journalism by subscribing today: courier-journal.com/tims
 
So all those threads and bar graphs that the entire board had to suffer through were a huge waste of everyone’s time? I’m confused, will there be an apology coming soon from the OP?
 
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Left a heavy breathing message on Sullivan's voice mail.

Just kidding.
I did email Sullivan asking rhetorically whether he knew the situation is a lot worse than his article portrays. I’m hoping that he and Eric Crawford get into a game of one-up-man-ship...
 
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Thats all paper loses for now. Just writing off Jurich's mistakes. You didn't report cash flow.
 
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This is just a graph too--not real money. LOL...

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You left out the part about record revenue,record ticket sales and a 12% increase in contributions.
Which underscores the problem. Major financial issues WHILE bringing in revenue. AND while CUTTING basketball and football budgets. That’s getting the bug at both ends.

That article is a start, but it doesn’t go halfway describing the breadth of financial issues. Of course like the federal government, there’s no recognition of that. They’ve got this... :p
 
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Which underscores the problem. Major financial issues WHILE bringing in revenue. AND while CUTTING basketball and football budgets. That’s getting the bug at both ends.

That article is a start, but it doesn’t go halfway describing the breadth of financial issues. Of course like the federal government, there’s no recognition of that. They’ve got this... :p
The only thing causing the loss were Petrino's buyout and Papa Johns payoff. Neither of which can be attributed to Tyra.
 
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zipp, this is not news and you posting it first shows you are just an instigator and not putting anything new into the mix. article says
he university is counting the full cost of Petrino’s $14 million buyout and Schnatter’s $9.5 million naming rights settlement in its 2018-19 fiscal year.
so instead of spreading that $23 million over a decade they simply took the hit all in one year which makes them look like they are losing money and is good for taxes. has nothing to do with incoming income or the state of affairs. they simply jsut claimed the write off this year. but if we broke that $23 million over ten years then instead of being $11mill in the hole this year we'd be up $13 million which makes us really profitable and thus your post jsut a way for you to put your name on a post but you trying to make any kind of point here was useless. anyone reading the article will know you are just throwing shade and did not help your continuous point that our new AD is not doing great
 
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Which underscores the problem. Major financial issues WHILE bringing in revenue. AND while CUTTING basketball and football budgets. That’s getting the bug at both ends.

That article is a start, but it doesn’t go halfway describing the breadth of financial issues. Of course like the federal government, there’s no recognition of that. They’ve got this... :p

Cheese and Rice man, now you’re trying to compare this to a U.S. Gov’t level conspiracy? Lololololololol! Try to understand the freaking article you quoted, I’ll try and help. Here is the most important paragraph you should pay attention to:

“Though former U of L football coach Bobby Petrino and pizza mogul John Schnatter are being paid off over a period of years, the university is counting the full cost of Petrino’s $14 million buyout and Schnatter’s $9.5 million naming rights settlement in its 2018-19 fiscal year. As a result, U of L has reported its first deficit since a new set of NCAA’s reporting guidelines took effect for the 2004-05 fiscal year.”

Obviously, due the decision to add those huge hits to our 2018-2019 fiscal year, some budgets would be cut to make up for those huge losses.

Try and let this quote from the article help ease your worries of our future financial situation: “We’re doing well,” Tyra said. “If you asked our university CFO (Dan Durbin) — I got another note last night — they’re happy and they think we’re doing a great job of cash management. We were in a great position at the end of the calendar year in cash.”
 
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Kind moving the goal post around. The main concern with Tyra was could he raise money and continue to invest in programs. Looks like he is making progress in that area. Revenue is up in both ticket sales and donations. Could it be more sure but overall hard to argue he hasn’t done a good job transitioning from extremely popular AD.

Last night he showed plans to build an indoor baseball facility. Let’s see how that goes, my guess is he will get it done.

Since revenue is up now we are saying expenses are out of line. Expenses that he had no control over. He has saved money in every sport in staff salary reduction yet the teams continue to perform well.

I am really not sure Tyra could have navigated this situation much better
 
The only thing causing the loss were Petrino's buyout and Papa Johns payoff. Neither of which can be attributed to Tyra.
...I’ll try and help. Here is the most important paragraph you should pay attention to:

“Though former U of L football coach Bobby Petrino and pizza mogul John Schnatter are being paid off over a period of years, the university is counting the full cost of Petrino’s $14 million buyout and Schnatter’s $9.5 million naming rights settlement in its 2018-19 fiscal year. As a result, U of L has reported its first deficit since a new set of NCAA’s reporting guidelines took effect for the 2004-05 fiscal year.”

Obviously, due the decision to add those huge hits to our 2018-2019 fiscal year, some budgets would be cut to make up for those huge losses...
Here's what you guys need to help "Vince" explain...

His department spent $52 million more in years 2018-2019 than the year before he took the job. $24 million in buyouts that "Vince" handed out don't explain HALF of that increase.

And his "$11.2 million deficit" is nowhere in the FY2019 report. That's what you get with UN-audited financials. Something half baked...
...Try and let this quote from the article help ease your worries of our future financial situation: “We’re doing well,” Tyra said. “If you asked our university CFO (Dan Durbin) — I got another note last night — they’re happy and they think we’re doing a great job of cash management. We were in a great position at the end of the calendar year in cash.”
The "worries" I have start when I stop listening to one clown at U of L running interference for the other...
 
Cheese and Rice man, now you’re trying to compare this to a U.S. Gov’t level conspiracy? Lololololololol!...
Other than the scale difference, it's two operations telling you not to worry about their financials...

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Here's what you guys need to help "Vince" explain...

His department spent $52 million more in years 2018-2019 than the year before he took the job. $24 million in buyouts that "Vince" handed out don't explain HALF of that increase.

And his "$11.2 million deficit" is nowhere in the FY2019 report. That's what you get with UN-audited financials. Something half baked...

The "worries" I have start when I stop listening to one clown at U of L running interference for the other...
Is any of these to pay for stadium expansion that wasn't on Tyra watch?
 
Kind moving the goal post around. The main concern with Tyra was could he raise money and continue to invest in programs. Looks like he is making progress in that area...
Not sure where you're getting your info independently of "Vince". Yes his revenue was up last year. But since he's been here, we're averaging less revenue than the year before he took the job. And he's systematically cutting budgets in the individual sports which almost never used to happen.
...Since revenue is up now we are saying expenses are out of line. Expenses that he had no control over...
See my post above. "Vince" has brought us $28 million more in additional costs in 2018 and 2019 than the buyouts he's whining about having to pay for.

Thanks "Vince"!!
 
I for one will trust an anonymous internet poster over the financial and legal professionals that are leading the university. We are DOOMED!
That's the beauty of using audited financial reports instead of UN-audited numbers fed to a newspaper reporter by people with conflicts of interest.

LINK

Let me know if you have any specific questions...
 
Is any of these to pay for stadium expansion that wasn't on Tyra watch?
I don't recall any footnotes in the report, but it's linked in my previous post if you wanna read it.

My recollection is that the Juriches had most of that cost covered with suite and premium seat rentals. That's not to say "Vince" hasn't lost a lotta that revenue. Hell, look at the basketball arena...
 
Other than the scale difference, it's two operations telling you not to worry about their financials...

Just scale difference? There’s a few more differences between the US govt and UofL than size. Haha
 
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the "worries" I have start when I stop listening to one clown at U of L running interference for the other...

There is another board here (off topic board) that you can post your conspiracy theories that’s more suitable than the free forum basketball and football boards, and im not a premium member but id bet you peppered those boards with your drivel too.

What i have seen in my 10+ years reading this site is that you go around here aggravating the hell out of everyone and they end up just not posting here anymore, who knows how many posters/$ you’ve cost this site, maybe someone should start putting pie/bar graphs together that shows those numbers.
 
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There is another board here (off topic board) that you can post your conspiracy theories that’s more suitable than the free forum basketball and football boards, and im not a premium member but id bet you peppered those boards with your drivel too.

What i have seen in my 10+ years reading this site is that you go around here aggravating the hell out of everyone and they end up just not posting here anymore, who knows how many posters/$ you’ve cost this site, maybe someone should start putting pie/bar graphs together that shows those numbers.
The guy who should know--Mark E--has told me I haven't cost him any business.

And the way guys like you follow me around, I believe that...
 
The guy who should know--Mark E--has told me I haven't cost him any business.

And the way guys like you follow me around, I believe that...

Yeah :D:D:D:p:p:p Following you around is THE problem for some of our folks. Perhaps some of them would be better off if they just didn’t pay any attention to you. I’ve gotten better at that. See you around the ball park.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
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Yeah :D:D:D:p:p:p Following you around is THE problem for some of our folks. Perhaps some of them would be better off if they just didn’t pay any attention to you. I’ve gotten better at that. See you around the ball park...
Yeah, but you get the real me. Most folks have to satisfy themselves with the virtual me.

:cool:

Maybe cloning is the answer...
 
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