He already posted here admitting to leaving a negative review of the business, so who knows if he stopped there or not.
Wow - some kitty kayut fans should be worried - I hope that people get punished over this
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Never said I did. However, some writer, a ref with hair highlights, and a sheriff don't determine what are death threats. A concept you really seem to struggle with at the moment.
You sound like a uk fan to me.Are you?Your name says otherwise,but i wonder...
No ... you DID say that death threats were protected speech. Telling CueCard that he defended the first amendment before, and if Cue had his way, the US would be "chittier".
It's tiresome discussing this with you.
Clearly you like to argue for the sake of arguing. But I'll save you the time going forward. I won't respond. You believe whatever you want bud. No matter how insane.
A sheriff leading an investigation definitely carries some weight in this whole deal. Not sure why you would dismiss that as irrelevant.
Also, while the law is still developing, there certainly is precedent for civil action being taken against someone who willfully posted verifiably inaccurate information on a business page.
Actually, it has already been tested and failed. That's why you have so many review sites to start. You'll see just about every one of them having to shut down if anything changes.
Yeah, when you try to call/compare a fan base giving a ref crap for terrible calls terrorism. That's a BS thing to do imo.
When you threaten a mans life, that's not giving him crap. I'm done with you because you are either one of those fans who did the threatening or you're just not smart enough to understand there is a difference.. Enjoy your 1st amendment rights. Speak your mind all you want but you nor I have the right to threaten anyone's life.
It all depends on the context and delivery of the statement "I'm going to kill You". Terroristic threatening is very hard to prove when the victim and perpetrator don't know one another. Does the threat reach the level of a True Threat? It will be hard for the state to prove that it's reasonable to believe the threat would be carried out considering the lack of seriousness over a basketball game result. Too bad most people don't know UK fans like we do. The SCOTUS hasn't really made a definitive litmus test for free speech vs terroristic threatening since True Threat.
You're right. I'm starting to think the guy that post dead animals after every one of his post is actually the brightest. I'll let you guys get back to changing the legal system and constitution for hatred sake.
That's a very naive attitude or plan crazy. Are you oblivious to what's going on in our country and the world. You have to take threats like these seriously. Are you saying we as a society should wait until someone is killed before taking action. I've got an idea why don't these DA keep their freaking pie holes shut and understand it's just a game. Their are people killed everyday by someone whose threaten to kill them. How in the heck are law enforcement suppose to know whose serious. That is exactly why that law exists; terroristic threatening. A person threatening to kill someone isn't what the first amendment is about. Good grief.
That's not true. Matters of opinion fail in court (i.e.: the service was bad). Matters presented as fact but that can be proven to be fake have proceeded in the courts.
Until any arrests are made I stand by my statement. Higgins said he had the calls recorded on a private line. If that's true it shouldn't be too hard after that
Burden of proof would be completely on Higgins 100%. That might not seem significant to you in message board land...
I don't know what else to say other than write your congressman and explain to him you'd like to start prosecuting crimes before they take place.
Oh, and did I mention they have to show intent. I guess you rather live in a land where they don't have to show intent?
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Let's see...some of these folks used their personal Facebook profiles to post. They then posted specific claims in regards to work done on their property. So I'm sure Higgins' lawyer would have a great time in interrogatories asking for receipts, examples of the work done, pictures of the work done, etc, etc. And then the depositions with these folks would be real entertaining. And even if it all got thrown out these people still have to pay an attorney to answer the civil suit.
Hey, go advise him to give it a go. And of course I'd be concerned with counterclaims.
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I love my cats and there were a couple calls that sucked for us in that game, but holy crap people are crazy. I can't even fathom taking it that far.
I'd save your laughter until he's successful. ..in an actual court of law. Not fantasy message board land. LOL.
I'm definitely not a lawyer, but hasn't the Sheriff here indicated he HAS proof of 650-750 calls/messages "of a threatening nature", SOME of which "met the criteria to be terroristic threats under Nebraska law". Those are the Sheriff's words, not John Higgin's.
Barrall said he has identified 450 phone calls or messages and another 200-300 messages on social media or in emails that were "of a threatening nature."
Some of those met the criteria to be considered terroristic threats under Nebraska law. Barrall said he wouldn't disclose how many until after he reviews all the messages. Under Nebraska law, making terroristic threats is a felony punishable by up to three years in prison.
Barrall said he has identified 450 phone calls or messages and another 200-300 messages on social media or in emails that were "of a threatening nature."
Some of those met the criteria to be considered terroristic threats under Nebraska law. Barrall said he wouldn't disclose how many until after he reviews all the messages. Under Nebraska law, making terroristic threats is a felony punishable by up to three years in prison.
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If Higgins said that, then he could be in a pickle himself, unless the laws are different in Kansas. I'm fairly sure it is not legal to record anyone without their consent (assuming the NSA isn't involved!!)
Sarcasm alert.......................
I thought the refs had it out for the Cards in the 14 tourney game.
I did find out out the names of the 3 officials and criticized them, but that was the end of it. Never crossed my mind to find out ANY personal information about them and
contact them in ANY way.
The Cards lost because of blowing two double digit leads. NOT the referees one bit.
Im sure the idiots left messages on his answering machine.
Some also left threatening messages on his business facebook.
The idiots goal was to harrass him into never calling a game for RHN.
I agree, and it was an epic fail. He isn't going to quit or be bullied. Good for him. I'm not a Higgins fan but I respect the fact he didn't get intimidated or quit.
Agreed.
If he did such a poor job, he wouldn't have been rewarded with the National semi-final.
And before and big blew fan says he was there to help UNC along, he didnt work the final game.
They know most cat fans can't find Nebraska. Even if they could, it would takes weeks for their donkey pulled wagons to get there.
I'd like to know where people find the time to waste on stupidity like this. I've got a job and a family and a fantasy baseball team to worry about, I don't have time to be writing fake reviews on some ref's website.
This whole thing is embarrassing. You want to know why UK lost that game? Because once again Calipari's vaunted dribble drive offense couldn't manufacture points when we had a late lead, and we gave up a big run. Just like Wisky in 2015. Point blank period. (I figure you Card fans will appreciate that one
This whole thing is embarrassing. You want to know why UK lost that game? Because once again Calipari's vaunted dribble drive offense couldn't manufacture points when we had a late lead, and we gave up a big run. Just like Wisky in 2015. Point blank period. (I figure you Card fans will appreciate that one
The sheriff absolutely does. The judge and jury convicts the police arrest. Pretty darn simple concept skippy
Still trying comrade? Base upon last night's post and now this post...did you spend all day studying law? j/k. I think I've made my point. You've made yours. We both can agree any real threats need to be dealt with appropriately.
And I apologize to Cue for calling him out personally. Touchy subject for me. He's one of this boards better posters imo.
j/k. I think I've made my point. You've made yours. We both can agree any real threats need to be dealt with appropriately.And I apologize to Cue for calling him out personally. Touchy subject for me. He's one of this boards better posters imo.
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Didn't need to study I think most learn that in high school.Still trying comrade? Base upon last night's post and now this post...did you spend all day studying law?
And I apologize to Cue for calling him out personally. Touchy subject for me. He's one of this boards better posters imo.
That's the the question how do you determine what's a real threat. Law enforcement doesn't have the luxury of saying that guys just kidding or he's just blowing of steam. Either way it's still a threat. But will see soon enough.
No apology needed OmegaCard. It's a message board, and you are entitled to speak your mind. OUR 1st amendment right protects all Americans when it comes to speaking out.
