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Why the Worst is (should be) Over

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Point 1: We've already been heavily punished for the stripper/prostitution scandal to the tune of a postseason ban and vacating a FF and NCAA Championship - the latter of which is unprecedented in college basketball - all for what amounted to less than $10 K in impermissible benefits. But it was salacious and immoral, so naturally we got hammered. In any event, no more dying the proverbial thousand deaths for the same crime.

Point 2: The FBI probe which led to the firing of Jurich and Pitino is every bit as far-reaching as the Feds initially claimed it to be. The facts are supporting the presupposition that all of college basketball was dirty and that players and their families were being paid handsome sums of money left and right at virtually every major school. Louisville should be no more culpable than any other schools that offered a single dollar of impermissible benefits - and perhaps less so since we've already fired the AD/Coach who were employed at the time of the scandal.

Logical Conclusion: The only thing Louisville has left to fear in terms of far-reaching punishment out of line with the rest of the college basketball cheating world, is being classified as a repeat offender. HOWEVER, in the current climate of college basketball, it seems egregious to extend punitive measures beyond what has already been handed down given that cheating/paying athletes was simply the status quo that the NCAA itself turned a blind eye towards as Cal and many others openly signed top talent year after year for hefty amounts of cash.
 
Let's face it. Until I see something that changes my mind, we are suckers playing in a rigged game whereby the favored programs routinely cheat, buy players, commit massive academic fraud and nothing ever happens to them. We attempt to keep up by entering the system of funding recruits that they created and we get our balls cut off. The NCAA is not through with us.
 
The NCAA is not through with us.
Yet ALL college athletic departments should be done with the NCAA. This issue goes all the way up to the top inside the NCAA itself. It's why they protect some, while busting up others. The NCAA needs to be abolished. It's time for the athletic departments across this country to ban together and give the middle finger to the NCAA and create their own association which focuses on the true academic-student-athlete. What we have today is a damn joke.
 
Yet ALL college athletic departments should be done with the NCAA. This issue goes all the way up to the top inside the NCAA itself. It's why they protect some, while busting up others. The NCAA needs to be abolished. It's time for the athletic departments across this country to ban together and give the middle finger to the NCAA and create their own association which focuses on the true academic-student-athlete. What we have today is a damn joke.

And the question I keep asking is why would the schools that get away with cheating such as Duke, Ohio State, UNC, UK and most of the rest of the old boys network want to give up the NCAA as long as they control things, get away with murder, and upstarts like us get all the punishment?
 
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And the question I keep asking is why would the schools that get away with cheating such as Duke, Ohio State, UNC, UK and most of the rest of the old boys network want to give up the NCAA as long as they control things, get away with murder, and upstarts like us get all the punishment?
No doubt but here's the beauty of it today. It's not up to the NCAA now. THIS is the FBI. The NCAA can't protect them once they get exposed for CRIMINAL activity.
 
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No doubt but here's the beauty of it today. It's not up to the NCAA now. THIS is the FBI. The NCAA can't protect them once they get exposed for CRIMINAL activity.
At this point I am going to assume the people charged will not be connected to the programs themselves. It will be agents who dealt directly with the players and their baby mamas and baby daddies.
 
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At this point I am going to assume the people charged will not be connected to the programs themselves. It will be agents who dealt directly with the players and their baby mamas and baby daddies.
Yes that is probably true, but once the money is traced back to the players, and the players played after getting paid the "impermissible benefit", the games they played in will be retroactively vacated along with any banners and/or championships. The bandage has already been ripped off, now the road forward is paved. It's all coming crashing down and the NCAA is powerless to protect it's blue bloods any longer.
 
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Yes that is probably true, but once the money is traced back to the players, and the players played after getting paid the "impermissible benefit", the games they played in will be retroactively vacated along with any banners and/or championships. The bandage has already been ripped off, now the road forward is paved. It's all coming crashing down and the NCAA is powerless to protect it's blue bloods any longer.

Or will the NCAA once again create a way out as they did for UNC and say something like it is a systemic problem and not really the fault of the schools and offer some type of major reform without punishing the sacred Duke and UK programs?
 
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Or will the NCAA once again create a way out as they did for UNC and say something like it is a systemic problem and not really the fault of the schools and offer some type of major reform without punishing the sacred Duke and UK programs?
Won't happen. Not now. Not after the unprecedented act of stripping the 2013 title from the Cards. They have no choice but to follow thru especially with the FBI involved. They won't want to open their own books to the feds.
 
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Won't happen. Not now. Not after the unprecedented act of stripping the 2013 title from the Cards. They have no choice but to follow thru especially with the FBI involved. They won't want to open their own books to the feds.
Nope. They will justify that because it had nothing to do with this issue but instead was related to strippers and paid for sex. They will not take away any titles over this issue. The FBI will get their convictions of agents, the NCAA will thank them for exposing the problem, the NCAA will offer reforms, and that will be that. Watch and learn.
 
Nope. They will justify that because it had nothing to do with this issue but instead was related to strippers and paid for sex. They will not take away any titles over this issue. The FBI will get their convictions of agents, the NCAA will thank them for exposing the problem, the NCAA will offer reforms, and that will be that. Watch and learn.
LOL. I don't believe that will ever play out like that. The stink on this is just too smelly even by NCAA standards. They won't be able to justify anything short of vacated wins and titles for programs who played players who were linked to getting paid.
 
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LOL. I don't believe that will ever play out like that. The stink on this is just too smelly even by NCAA standards. They won't be able to justify anything short of vacated wins and titles for programs who played players who were linked to getting paid.
NCAA is not going to destroy themselves. It will go down as I said. New rules and regulations to fix the "system" problem and we get the short end of the stick as usual.
 
NCAA is not going to destroy themselves. It will go down as I said. New rules and regulations to fix the "system" problem and we get the short end of the stick as usual.
IF they try to circumvent their own set rules at this high profile level, they will have a serious image problem they won't be able to overcome. The backlash in social media would be the end of the NCAA as we know it.

Once this plays out, the NCAA will be held accountable. The FEDS aren't playing around.
 
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There is truly no way to project the future at this time - all the facts have not been provided.

We don't know what evidence is going to be applied, and who it will be applied too.

I'd say we're closer to having the system crash than we were a few days ago.
 
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IF they try to circumvent their own set rules at this high profile level, they will have a serious image problem they won't be able to overcome. The backlash in social media would be the end of the NCAA as we know it.

Once this plays out, the NCAA will be held accountable. The FEDS aren't playing around.
The FBI issue has nothing to do with the NCAA. Remember that the FBI views the dishonest players that got the money as victims which is hilarious. The NCAA will publicly thank the FBI for bringing this to their attention and then some new guidelines will be issued and Cleveland State will get 3 years probation.
 
The FBI issue has nothing to do with the NCAA. Remember that the FBI views the dishonest players that got the money as victims which is hilarious. The NCAA will publicly thank the FBI for bringing this to their attention and then some new guidelines will be issued and Cleveland State will get 3 years probation.
C'mon...that Cleveland State stuff is so dated. Louisville is the Cleveland State of this decade. :p
 
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The FBI issue has nothing to do with the NCAA. Remember that the FBI views the dishonest players that got the money as victims which is hilarious. The NCAA will publicly thank the FBI for bringing this to their attention and then some new guidelines will be issued and Cleveland State will get 3 years probation.
LOL. If that happens then I'm done with college sports. Life is too short to put up with corrupt conglomerates as a part of my every day routines. I can find better things to do with my time.
 
LOL. If that happens then I'm done with college sports. Life is too short to put up with corrupt conglomerates as a part of my every day routines. I can find better things to do with my time.
I agree and am just about at that point. The UNC vs Louisville NCAA situation was about the last straw for me. If this goes as I expect it will, I don't think I can deal with it.
 
LOL. If that happens then I'm done with college sports. Life is too short to put up with corrupt conglomerates as a part of my every day routines. I can find better things to do with my time.
This is where I am also. I have a feeling you and I will be finding new winter time hobbies/activities.
 
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